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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 12, 2016 17:38:13 GMT -5
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Aug 12, 2016 17:43:02 GMT -5
Most of the SW films feel pretty distinct from each other to me. The exceptions would be maybe Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, and those are my least favorites but that's not necessarily the reason I say that. It's got more to do with their tone.
Either way, I liked this new trailer a lot more and I'm crazy hyped.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 12, 2016 17:48:10 GMT -5
I get what Numero is sayin though, if you're not all in on what's a Flash Gordon serial writ large, the franchise itself probably isn't gonna be in your wheelhouse.
Me, I'm a disciple of Joseph Campbell, so I've been sold on this universe for many moons and/or space stations.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Aug 12, 2016 17:53:29 GMT -5
I wonder if that shot of the Star Destroyer hovering in that planet's sky when Saw Gerrera (Forest Whitaker's character) is talking is supposed to be Onderon. His character is from Onderon in the Clone Wars and it'd make sense. That and I'd fanboy over Onderon showing up in one of the movies in some capacity. It actually seems unlikely to me unless it is a flashback. Agent Kallus from Rebels recounted a story of being with a squad early in his career (which would have been some time ago since he is fairly high ranking by the time he appeared in Rebels) where he was sent to deal with Saw Gerrera's rebel cell. As shown in Rebels, no cell is allowed to flourish on any planet for too long before the big guns get pulled on them. The Ghost crew had to flee Lothal to survive and I imagine Saw had to flee Onderon. |
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Post by Fade on Aug 12, 2016 18:10:02 GMT -5
Agreed. It'll be fun to see Vader, though I don't expect a lot of him. |
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Post by BRV on Aug 12, 2016 18:52:59 GMT -5
My biggest concern in the aftermath of the reshoots and the rumors that Disney was unhappy with the tone of the teaser trailer was that they'd make the movie this light, jaunty affair and that they'd make that robot into a C3PO-R2D2-BB8-Jar Jar sort of cartoon character to appeal to kids and basically be a merchandising tool used on screen. And while the robot does crack wise twice, it doesn't detract from the overall trailer, which for the first time in the history of the "Star Wars" saga appears to be focusing on the "Wars" part of "Star Wars". It looks like a war movie, granted one set in a galaxy far far away, but it's got that gritty, dark, visceral look that no other "Star Wars" movie has had.
Knowing the way Gareth Edwards handled Godzilla and "Monsters", we'll get about three seconds of Darth Vader at the end of the movie, but that's just me being cynical. Overall, I'm very excited for the movie and I like that it hits all of the keystone "Star Wars" beats but feels fresh and original enough to stand on its own. But so help me, if they reveal that Jyn is Rey's mother, I'm bringing a table with me into the cinema this December just so I can flip it.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Aug 12, 2016 19:19:15 GMT -5
I wonder if that shot of the Star Destroyer hovering in that planet's sky when Saw Gerrera (Forest Whitaker's character) is talking is supposed to be Onderon. His character is from Onderon in the Clone Wars and it'd make sense. That and I'd fanboy over Onderon showing up in one of the movies in some capacity. It actually seems unlikely to me unless it is a flashback. Agent Kallus from Rebels recounted a story of being with a squad early in his career (which would have been some time ago since he is fairly high ranking by the time he appeared in Rebels) where he was sent to deal with Saw Gerrera's rebel cell. As shown in Rebels, no cell is allowed to flourish on any planet for too long before the big guns get pulled on them. The Ghost crew had to flee Lothal to survive and I imagine Saw had to flee Onderon. It also looks like Cham Syndulla had to leave Ryloth. The Empire's policy has always been to break an insurgency's back, but never take it out altogether. It's that arrogant reluctance that costs them. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 12, 2016 19:28:40 GMT -5
Knowing the way Gareth Edwards handled Godzilla and "Monsters", we'll get about three seconds of Darth Vader at the end of the movie, but that's just me being cynical. Overall, I'm very excited for the movie and I like that it hits all of the keystone "Star Wars" beats but feels fresh and original enough to stand on its own. But so help me, if they reveal that Jyn is Rey's mother, I'm bringing a table with me into the cinema this December just so I can flip it. Going back to my earlier post, if the only screen time Vader gets is at the end of the movie, Jyn and her friends in a holding cell in the bowels of the Death Star, Vader walks in and we fade to black, I'll be happy. |
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Aug 12, 2016 19:35:41 GMT -5
The thing I like about prequels is they can end dark. See Revenge of the Sith for example. I expect nothing less from Rogue Squadron When you really think about, episodes 4 and 6 are the only ones that end entirely happy without any reservations. Episode 1: yeah, it was a celebratory parade but, it was clear Palpatine got exactly what he wanted and he was the real winner. Episode 2: the last thing we see are the Stormtrooper predecessors boarding star destroyer predecessors in front of the emperor. All while a variation of the Imperial March blares in the background. Then we see Anakin and Padme's wedding, the catalyst for Darth Vader. Episode 3: No Explanation needed. Episode 4: Death Star destroyed, medals given out. All good. Episode 5: Luke is stuck between his aspirations as a Jedi, and the reveal of his father's true identity. Han is in limbo, and the rebels are regrouping. Episode 6: Second Death Star is destroyed, Emperor is dead, Darth Vader becomes Anakin Skywalker once more. Stormtrooper helmet drums for everyone. Episode 7: Some might see this one ended happy but, I couldn't disagree more. Yes, The First Order is in retreat and Luke is found but, at what cost? When you think about it, for a series built on hope, it's endings are usually bittersweet. |
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Aug 12, 2016 19:37:31 GMT -5
Knowing the way Gareth Edwards handled Godzilla and "Monsters", we'll get about three seconds of Darth Vader at the end of the movie, but that's just me being cynical. Overall, I'm very excited for the movie and I like that it hits all of the keystone "Star Wars" beats but feels fresh and original enough to stand on its own. But so help me, if they reveal that Jyn is Rey's mother, I'm bringing a table with me into the cinema this December just so I can flip it. Going back to my earlier post, if the only screen time Vader gets is at the end of the movie, Jyn and her friends in a holding cell in the bowels of the Death Star, Vader walks in and we fade to black, I'll be happy. It'll also give us context for his "There will be no one to stop us this time" boast. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 12, 2016 19:38:39 GMT -5
Episode 1: yeah, it was a celebratory parade but, it was clear Palpatine got exactly what he wanted and he was the real winner. . Fully shown by the happy parade music being the Emperor's theme sped up. |
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Post by Scooterdust on Sept 16, 2016 16:23:23 GMT -5
Not to mention on top of all that, JJ Abrams flat out said that Rey's parents aren't in Episode 7. I know he tried to clarify immediately afterwards but, it was a pretty cut and dry statement to me. . And Benedict Cumberbatch definitely wasn't Khan in Into Darkness. He also changed what he said later on and JJ Abrams has 0 say in any further Star Wars movies creatively. I'm not saying Rey is related to anyone or not. But a mystery parents thing doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense if we don't know who she's related to in some capacity. as for the Aftermath spoilers {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}the same reason Yoda hid on Dagobah, another planet that was over run with the Dark side.
If someone is looking for a Jedi (and in both cases someone was.) it's hard to detect them in a place like that. Given what happened when Rey touched the lightsaber, it brought up a big what if in my mind... {Spoiler}Obi Wan says "Rey, these are your first steps" What if we never meet Rey's parents? What if that flashback actually connects back to episode 3 and Rey is the only surviving youngling of the Jedi Temple massacre that Anakin went on, but hadn't begun her training, which would explain how she didn't know she was Force sensitive, and under orders from Yoda was sent to a sector where she couldn't be detected; kind of hoping Rey would never have her Force abilities triggered; the flashback could be Unkar Plutt pulling a lost Rey away from the ship whose pilots think they have lost her, or it is possibly not the ship that delivered her, possibly a rescue ship sent to find the one that had Rey which possibly crashed.
It's a broad theory, and I think it is way more complicated than her just being a Skywalker by blood, because if it is the latter, the series has to rewrite Jedi being allowed to love and explain it. Also, haven't checked the thread, but I get the strong feeling that Jyn ends up becoming... {Spoiler}Captain Phasma |
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Sept 16, 2016 16:31:58 GMT -5
And Benedict Cumberbatch definitely wasn't Khan in Into Darkness. He also changed what he said later on and JJ Abrams has 0 say in any further Star Wars movies creatively. I'm not saying Rey is related to anyone or not. But a mystery parents thing doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense if we don't know who she's related to in some capacity. as for the Aftermath spoilers {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}the same reason Yoda hid on Dagobah, another planet that was over run with the Dark side.
If someone is looking for a Jedi (and in both cases someone was.) it's hard to detect them in a place like that. Given what happened when Rey touched the lightsaber, it brought up a big what if in my mind... Obi Wan says "Rey, these are your first steps" What if we never meet Rey's parents? What if that flashback actually connects back to episode 3 and Rey is the only surviving youngling of the Jedi Temple massacre that Anakin went on, but hadn't begun her training, which would explain how she didn't know she was Force sensitive, and under orders from Yoda was sent to a sector where she couldn't be detected; kind of hoping Rey would never have her Force abilities triggered; the flashback could be Unkar Plutt pulling a lost Rey away from the ship whose pilots think they have lost her, or it is possibly not the ship that delivered her, possibly a rescue ship sent to find the one that had Rey which possibly crashed.
It's a broad theory, and I think it is way more complicated than her just being a Skywalker by blood, because if it is the latter, the series has to rewrite Jedi being allowed to love and explain it. Also, haven't checked the thread, but I get the strong feeling that Jyn ends up becoming... Captain Phasma If that theory were correct, then Rey would be older than Luke. |
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Post by Scooterdust on Sept 16, 2016 17:38:40 GMT -5
Given what happened when Rey touched the lightsaber, it brought up a big what if in my mind... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Obi Wan says "Rey, these are your first steps" What if we never meet Rey's parents? What if that flashback actually connects back to episode 3 and Rey is the only surviving youngling of the Jedi Temple massacre that Anakin went on, but hadn't begun her training, which would explain how she didn't know she was Force sensitive, and under orders from Yoda was sent to a sector where she couldn't be detected; kind of hoping Rey would never have her Force abilities triggered; the flashback could be Unkar Plutt pulling a lost Rey away from the ship whose pilots think they have lost her, or it is possibly not the ship that delivered her, possibly a rescue ship sent to find the one that had Rey which possibly crashed.
It's a broad theory, and I think it is way more complicated than her just being a Skywalker by blood, because if it is the latter, the series has to rewrite Jedi being allowed to love and explain it. Also, haven't checked the thread, but I get the strong feeling that Jyn ends up becoming... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Captain Phasma If that theory were correct, then Rey would be older than Luke. I'm an idiot. It's official. Even if it was during the raids on Jedi temples that supposedly happened prior to New Hope and after Sith, it wouldn't be logical would it? I still think that is what Rey is, just applicable to the timeline of events prior to TFA |
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on Sept 16, 2016 17:41:03 GMT -5
Luke and Leia were born at the end of Revenge of the Sith. Any of those younglings would have been at least 5 years older. Rey is some 30 years younger.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 16, 2016 19:03:29 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if Rey is the offspring of characters featured in the Star Wars Story that is released between Episodes VII and IX, and she doesn't learn their identities or fates until IX.
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Post by Push R Truth on Sept 16, 2016 21:53:30 GMT -5
Rey is R2D2 and Wicket's love child
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Post by sternrogers01 on Sept 29, 2016 8:29:55 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2016 14:58:02 GMT -5
Poor Dr Strange, that sounds painful. |
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