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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 17, 2016 21:09:26 GMT -5
Don't think so
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 17, 2016 21:15:35 GMT -5
The official word from Disney is that only the films, The Clone Wars and Rebels television series are canon, so no, the radio adaptations are no longer canon (Lucas had previously stated they were in the same level of canonicity as the films).
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Dec 17, 2016 21:15:50 GMT -5
I simply must have these. I know at one time had a vinyl collection of stories like this. I do not have the one that is being referenced in the original post.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Dec 17, 2016 21:30:32 GMT -5
The official word from Disney is that only the films, The Clone Wars and Rebels television series are canon, so no, the radio adaptations are no longer canon (Lucas had previously stated they were in the same level of canonicity as the films). I think a few of the recent book are canon too. Well except for Lost Stars since it features characters stationed on the Death Star and Darth Vader's Star Destroyer at the time of the events of Rogue One yet they are not mentioned. In fact the destruction of Alderaan is mentioned as the testing of the weapon. Although They could retcon it if they make a sequel to that book. |
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Post by Jiren on Dec 17, 2016 21:40:41 GMT -5
I hope the current comics are cannon because IMO they add some background to certain things (Vader knowing Luke is his son) It's Darth Vader #6 if you want to read the whole thing |
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 17, 2016 21:47:46 GMT -5
In the Rogue One prologue book, Catalyst, they mentioned a battle from the hand drawn animated Clone Wars series from 2003 so, some of that is now canon as well. Come to think of it, you could probably canonize everything from that show before the events leading up to their version of the battle of Coruscant and it would make no difference to the current canon timeline. Anakin is barely a knight through that time. He still has his braid for most of it IIRC.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 17, 2016 22:18:08 GMT -5
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 17, 2016 22:40:28 GMT -5
Kind of a shame they can't get Dennis to come back
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 17, 2016 22:40:42 GMT -5
I'll give a list of thoughts I have of the movie now that I'm back on a computer instead of my phone. Spoilers for each one, though. {Spoiler}1. I have to say, the best visuals came from anytime the movie showed just how big and in-your-face the empire is with their weapons and troops. The shots of the Star Destroyer and tie fighters over Jedha city, the Death Star eclipsing Jedha's sun, the Death Star rising through the horizon on Scarif, etc. The movie intended to show just how far the reaches of the Galactic Empire goes and they did a fantastic job of that. Well done to them.
2. It seems that multiple members of the Lucasfilm story group have confirmed that Vader's lair is based of concept art of a castle surrounded by lava they had for Return of the Jedi. It was also confirmed by the head of Lucasfilm's story group, Pablo Hidalgo, that the location of that caste is Mustafar. So, to recap, Vader's lair is in the same exact place where Anakin Skywalker as we knew him died and where his greatest failures occured. All that is done, I would think, to keep Vader focused on his anger and self-loathing. Brilliant for someone aspiring to be a powerful Sith Lord, awful for anyone who's gone through as much trauma as Anakin did. Also, did anyone else get Darth Malgus vibes from the shot in the Bacta Tank besides me?
3. The CGI Peter Cushing as Tarkin was weird to me at first because there were some angles that just looked like it was pulled straight out of the uncanny valley. But, I got used to it and it ended up looking a bit better as the movie went on. Personally, I think they would have been much better off just using Guy Henry's entire appearance while also graying and slicking back his hair a bit. If you look him up on Google, with some work, he could look just like 77 Tarkin. I realize that's a piece of technology that Hollywood is really big on and wants to continue experimenting on but, I think it would have been more prudent to save the money and just use Guy Henry outright to play Grand Moff Tarkin. Meanwhile, I thought CGI Carrie Fisher as Leia looked pretty good. Though we didn't see her as much as Tarkin.
4. Surprised we didn't see either Tagge or Motti. Especially Motti considering what a fanboy for the Death Star he was.
5. I'll echo the praise for this movie's third act. That's the best third act in a Star Wars movie since Empire. That was emotionally insane and the way it tied in to ANH was perfect. Though these eyes got much more misty for the scene with Galen and Jyn than it did for Cassian and Jyn. Though, that scene chocked me up as well.
6. I also think they planned to have Jyn ride off into the sunset after this movie at first but, during reshoots, I'm sure someone probably brought up the fact that if she lived, fans would be pissed off by the fact that someone as important as her survived the galactic civil war, yet is nowhere to be seen come the events of The Force Awakens. So, they decided to just kill her off heroically. I applaud the ruthlessness of this story to their characters.
7. To respond to someone who mentioned the intercom at the Rebel base at Yavin 4 calling for "General Syndulla" and linking it to Hera. You'll be happy to know that if you look closely at the Rebel fleet as it comes out of hyperspace, you'll see the Ghost with them. I was actually disappointed they didn't have Vanessa Marshall voice Hera calling out the Ghost's call sign when they had all wings reporting in: "Spectre 1, standing by." It would have been a great nod to fans of the Rebels series. I can't wait to see it again on Christmas day with my family because, apparently, Chopper appeared on Yavin IV and I didn't see him. I'm not responsible for whatever inhuman noise I make if I see him haha. Also, interestingly, the Ghost did not leave with the rest of the fleet. Would be interesting to see if they decided to animate the Scarif space battle thourgh the Ghost crew's perspective. That would make for an awesomely tense episode.
My hope is that, after this movie, Disney and Lucasfilm will be willing to continue to have these standalone movies add different dimensions and depths to the currently existing material. Like how this movie added depth to ANH, I hope the Han Solo movie(s) will give the audience a chance to go back and watch Empire and Jedi to see the Han and Lando friendship with new eyes. That's the main thing I want from these self-contained stories. And be ballsy with it, make the fans completely rethink their former conceptions of the series. You do that succesfully, Star Wars could stay a relevant cultural zeitgeist for a good long while. |
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 17, 2016 22:41:49 GMT -5
We still need that Obi-Wan Spin off
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 17, 2016 22:45:03 GMT -5
We still need that Obi-Wan Spin off Gareth Edwards adding his voice to the list of people asking for that makes me wonder if Disney and Lucasfilm can ignore it for much longer. Everybody I've seen from the fandom and from those that have or are working on Star Wars have said that the Obi-Wan standalone is the one movie they want to see more than anything else. They almost have to do it now. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 17, 2016 22:55:50 GMT -5
We still need that Obi-Wan Spin off {Spoiler}Apparently McGregor has been quoted as saying there isn't a solo film yet because there's still a part for Obi-Wan to play in the saga films, and that a spin-off post-Episode IX is a distinct possibility. |
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 17, 2016 22:56:47 GMT -5
By time 9 comes out might be too late
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Post by Sparvid on Dec 17, 2016 22:59:00 GMT -5
The mind reading slimy beasts tentacles used on the pilot didn't look that good. {Spoiler}Oh yeah, what was the point of that? The whole "losing one's mind" thing was apparently not an issue after ten minutes. My theory on the writing of the script: {Spoiler}
Writer #1: "Okay, so we've carefully written everything to fit into where things start in ANH."
Writer #2: "Now the plans are on the disabled Rebel ship, and Vader is coming for them. How do we get them to Leia, who's not officially a part of the Rebellion and has at least some kind of plausible deniability which prevents the Empire from just squashing her without raising unwanted attention?"
Producer: "Okay guys, I need the finished script on my desk ten seconds from now"
Writer #1: "Leia-was-on-the-Rebel-ship-the-whole-time-and-Vader-personally-watches-her-ship-get-away!"
Producer: "Great, thanks!"
Writer #2: "What?"
Writer #1: *shrugs* "I dunno, I panicked."
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Post by Jiren on Dec 17, 2016 23:02:37 GMT -5
IF they do a Obi-Wan spin off I hope Neeson comes back as Qui-Gon's ghost, I'm sure Neeson would do it.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 17, 2016 23:06:49 GMT -5
By time 9 comes out might be too late In what way? McGregor's 45, so I don't see age being a huge factor, especially if it's set between III and IV when Obi-Wan would've been around the same age. Fans have been clamouring for the movie for years, and I can't see that dying off between now and 2020. {Spoiler}Plus if Obi-Wan plays a role in IX it'll get that bandwagon rolling ever harder. |
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 17, 2016 23:08:47 GMT -5
Would be better then that Stupid Boba one especially with the idea some people had with a unknown killing off the Boba Clone
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Post by Jiren on Dec 17, 2016 23:11:56 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}The mind reading slimy beasts tentacles used on the pilot didn't look that good. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Oh yeah, what was the point of that? The whole "losing one's mind" thing was apparently not an issue after ten minutes. My theory on the writing of the script: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}
Writer #1: "Okay, so we've carefully written everything to fit into where things start in ANH."
Writer #2: "Now the plans are on the disabled Rebel ship, and Vader is coming for them. How do we get them to Leia, who's not officially a part of the Rebellion and has at least some kind of plausible deniability which prevents the Empire from just squashing her without raising unwanted attention?"
Producer: "Okay guys, I need the finished script on my desk ten seconds from now"
Writer #1: "Leia-was-on-the-Rebel-ship-the-whole-time-and-Vader-personally-watches-her-ship-get-away!"
Producer: "Great, thanks!"
Writer #2: "What?"
Writer #1: *shrugs* "I dunno, I panicked."
As badass as the ending was, it was a bit wishy washy with the continuity, Also {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}How were C3P0 & R2 on the ship when they were still on Yavin after Leia had gone already That scene is one I wouldn't mind seeing edited out of the Home release, It's a pointless scene and screws up continuity with Ep 4 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 23:16:05 GMT -5
So I just saw this, and I must say I've never felt so indifferent towards a Star Wars film. I usually walk out of a theater pissed off or full of joy, but I feel no emotion whatsoever. It was just an average movie to me.
I hope that when I rewatch it during a marathon when it comes out on blu ray I like it more because I really WANT to like it.
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Post by Fade on Dec 17, 2016 23:16:55 GMT -5
We still need that Obi-Wan Spin off Gareth Edwards adding his voice to the list of people asking for that makes me wonder if Disney and Lucasfilm can ignore it for much longer. Everybody I've seen from the fandom and from those that have or are working on Star Wars have said that the Obi-Wan standalone is the one movie they want to see more than anything else. They almost have to do it now. Ewan still looks good for his age. If anything they'd have to apply old age make-up. Disney isn't stupid. I think they're being coy at this point. Obi Wan is the perfect stand alone film: Ewan, Boba Fett, Jabba, a young Luke, Darth Maul, Old Man Owen. Seriously the potential is through the roof. It'd also be cool stylized as a Western. Oh and I second the comics thing. The new ones are awesome. Especially Vaders. Finding out about Luke and biting his lip while Jabba shittalks Tattooine are my favorite moments from it. Anyway, off to finally watch Rogue Uno! |
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