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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 19, 2016 12:45:50 GMT -5
His face and body movement in general was fine to me, but it was glaringly obvious in his mouth. The body is a real person, they just CGI'd the face. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Same with Leia. She looked a lot better, as presumably they had her there and did something similar to Michael Douglas in Ant Man.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 12:48:25 GMT -5
I'm surprised that anyone thinks the Peter Cushing cartoon worked at all. It was like a video game CGI sequence jammed next to the real actors. It was almost bearable in scenes where he wasn't in the same shot as real humans, but he never felt like a real person at all to me. I thought both he and the "other" CGI character looked terrible. For a movie that tried to be as realistic as Star Wars can be, these things really took me out of the moment. Also, imagine how much worse they are going to look in like 5 or 10 years when the technology to do this is way better.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Dec 19, 2016 13:49:43 GMT -5
I quite liked it. Think it'll be interesting to watch it back to back with A New Hope. I've been pretty sure the 15 minute airport brawl in Captain America: Civil War was going to end up as my favorite scene of the year, but that Darth Vader scene at the end of this one...that was something else. I saw the movie last night after a full day of being out and about, watching football at the bar, being tired from working Saturday night, and the overall shitty weather. I was just beat physically. I was so tired going into the movie but me and a buddy had to see it. I'll have to see the movie again because there were some parts where I was fighting sleep. But when that scene happened at the end I woke up and sat on the edge of my seat. Vader put that work in.
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Post by xCompackx on Dec 19, 2016 13:51:16 GMT -5
I'm surprised that anyone thinks the Peter Cushing cartoon worked at all. It was like a video game CGI sequence jammed next to the real actors. It was almost bearable in scenes where he wasn't in the same shot as real humans, but he never felt like a real person at all to me. I didn't mind it. It was pretty obvious that it was CGI (especially since I knew Peter Cushing passed away), but it worked for what was needed. I mean, if Tarkin was in the majority of the movie, it would've been a bit too glaring, but it was fine with the scenes he was in.
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Post by Fade on Dec 19, 2016 14:33:44 GMT -5
I'm surprised that anyone thinks the Peter Cushing cartoon worked at all. It was like a video game CGI sequence jammed next to the real actors. It was almost bearable in scenes where he wasn't in the same shot as real humans, but he never felt like a real person at all to me. I thought both he and the "other" CGI character looked terrible. For a movie that tried to be as realistic as Star Wars can be, these things really took me out of the moment. Also, imagine how much worse they are going to look in like 5 or 10 years when the technology to do this is way better. I watched Episode II last night. Graphics look literally like video games. Like last generation video game graphics. All graphics age bad (sans Jurassic Park). I thought Tarkin looked good but I saw it in IMAX 3D. I dunno if that played a role. But I was intently looking to see flaws and there are times in movements you're like "Yeah CGI" but especially if he was still and portrait I thought he looked very well. I'll second what some have said about the guy playing Vader. He didn't really..move like Vader. Like Prowse I guess. Also James Earl Jones, as much as I love him, sounded old. It's jarringly different from him in A New Hope. Also second the great acting..Felicity Jones probably gave the most nuanced SW performance since..I dunno. Blind dude and his buddy were great. Instantly. The Director guy was a great antagonist but my personal favorite was the imperial pilot who turned Rogue. Man I loved that guys performance.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 15:41:05 GMT -5
Just saw it again and liked it a little more this time. On a second viewing, the beginning doesn't seem as slow and boring. I'm also watching ANH right now and it's cool the way it lines up.
I still don't know if I love it as much as some people seem to, but at the end of the day it gave me what I wanted most from it: a buffer between III and IV. Now that there is a more modern movie with the classic Star Wars look to go in between, it makes the jump from III to IV less jarring during a marathon.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 19, 2016 15:46:50 GMT -5
Just saw it again and liked it a little more this time. On a second viewing, the beginning doesn't seem as slow and boring. I'm also watching ANH right now and it's cool the way it lines up. I still don't know if I love it as much as some people seem to, but at the end of the day it gave me what I wanted most from it: a buffer between III and IV. Now that there is a more modern movie with the classic Star Wars look to go in between, it makes the jump from III to IV less jarring during a marathon. Yeah, now the jump from the bright and shiny Prequels and the dirty and gritty OT isn't as jarring.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 19, 2016 17:35:01 GMT -5
Awesome movie, and all hail Chirrut. Also, nobody does things to scale and makes them seem massive like Gareth Edwards. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}I guess I was wrong about Jyn being Rey's mother.
Remember when people were worried about Disney having control because the movies would be Disneyfied? They've made 2 Star Wars movies, in one Han was killed by his own son, and in this one all the main heroes died. I think the worry about these movies being Disneyfied can go away.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Dec 19, 2016 17:52:59 GMT -5
I don't think 'Disneyfied' necessarily means 'bad stuff can't happen to characters ever'. Plenty of Disney characters die, often gruesomely so. But how often are the consequences of those deaths given the kind of dramatic weight given the context of how and why such acts of violence occur? That's what I think 'Disneyfied' really means when people invoke the term--how such entertainment skips past such moments of narrative, moral, and/or ideological rupture.
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Post by BRV on Dec 19, 2016 19:06:18 GMT -5
I loved it. I saw it on Saturday afternoon and after sitting on it for about 48 hours, I think I'm confident in saying it's my second-favorite "Star Wars" installment of all-time, trailing behind only "The Empire Strikes Back". I've read many people saying that the movie is slow in the first 45 minutes and while that's true to some degree, I didn't see it as plodding or boring, I saw it as necessary to build traits and personalities in characters that we'd never before met. As the movie was going along, I was saying to myself, "Do I like this more than 'The Force Awakens'?" Which is something I didn't think was possible, considering how much I enjoyed "The Force Awakens", but then the last hour of the movie pushed it over the top and into the pantheon of the "Star Wars" saga. I also like that while there are many winks and nods to both the prequels and the original trilogy, it isn't overbearing or unnecessary. Every line or cameo felt like it added to the movie (or added to the movies it was referencing) rather than took away from it. I know some people have been critical of "The Force Awakens" as being somewhat hamfisted in its references to the previous installments, I'd be hard-pressed to find a reason to say that "Rogue One" was a little too cheeky in its references. And last but not least, this movie was good enough that I should probably apologize for all the things I said about Gareth Edwards leading up to it. "Rogue One" was so good that it made me forget how underwhelming his "Godzilla" interpretation was. Oh, one more thing: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}I am so thrilled that Jyn was not related, in any way whatsoever, to any of the characters in the original trilogy or "The Force Awakens". Nothing bothered me more than the rumor that she would be Rey's mother and I'm so glad that's not the case. If there's one thing that bothers me about the "Star Wars" universe, it's that we have this massive, sprawling galaxy of planets and moons, yet everybody is related to or knows everybody else. It was nice to see a group of heroes who had no familial connections to the Skywalkers or Solos. I really liked it but that pun. Oh my god that pun. If you're talking about Darth Vader's interaction with Krennic, I completely agree with you. If there's one thing that upset me from the first 110 minutes or so it's that the only screen time Darth Vader got was a quick conversation and a line that would have been left on the cutting room floor of even the cheesiest of Schwarzenegger movies.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 19:29:22 GMT -5
I didn't mind the pun. It was kinda bad, but not even close to "Noooooooooo" bad.
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on Dec 19, 2016 19:30:07 GMT -5
The pun didn't bother me. Yes, I said it.
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Post by CMWaters on Dec 19, 2016 19:45:48 GMT -5
Didn't bother me either.
Saw it in the similar vein to his line from Empire: "We would be honored if you join us for dinner."
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Post by Citizen Snips on Dec 19, 2016 20:27:04 GMT -5
Also second the great acting..Felicity Jones probably gave the most nuanced SW performance since..I dunno. Blind dude and his buddy were great. Instantly. The Director guy was a great antagonist but my personal favorite was the imperial pilot who turned Rogue. Man I loved that guys performance. I somehow didn't even know Riz Ahmed was in the movie until he popped up on the screen and then I gave a little cheer. He's having quite a December, with Rogue One hitting big a week after he got a justly deserved Golden Globe nomination for The Night Of.
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Post by The Captain on Dec 19, 2016 20:40:54 GMT -5
I'm seeing the movie tomorrow and I'm really excited. I'm not as HYPEHYPEHYPE as I was for Episode VII but I'm still anticipating watching it, as it sounds like a very different kind of Star Wars story. Very similar in the vein to the best EU stories.
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Post by stealthamo on Dec 19, 2016 21:02:14 GMT -5
Saw it over the weekend, and it was good. Not great, but a solid movie. My biggest problem is most of the characters were bland and forgettable. The only ones I could tell you anything about are Donnie Yen's character and K-2SO. I thought the story was fine and the action/CGI were great (though I didn't expect to be comparing this movie with Saving Private Ryan as far as action goes), but really the only character that was memorable that I enjoyed was Donnie Yen. K-2SO was alright, but he was mainly just comic relief, a weird mix of C-3PO and TARS from Interstellar. The crowd I was with seemed to enjoy it a lot as it got a round of applause as the credits rolled. I totally get why people would either hate this movie or love it. As it stands, the characters take away from the movie, but I still enjoyed it all in all.
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Post by The Sam on Dec 19, 2016 21:05:56 GMT -5
RLM review;
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Post by Jiren on Dec 19, 2016 21:14:56 GMT -5
I agree with them on the characters, Besides the Robot I found them boring. {Spoiler}When they died i didn't give a shit
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Dec 19, 2016 21:29:50 GMT -5
Awesome movie, and all hail Chirrut. Also, nobody does things to scale and makes them seem massive like Gareth Edwards. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I guess I was wrong about Jyn being Rey's mother.
Remember when people were worried about Disney having control because the movies would be Disneyfied? They've made 2 Star Wars movies, in one Han was killed by his own son, and in this one all the main heroes died. I think the worry about these movies being Disneyfied can go away. A parent dying is the most Disney thing possible.
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Post by Glitch on Dec 19, 2016 23:11:20 GMT -5
There's one part that did confuse me. Nowhere did they mention what effect something as expensive as the Death Star would have on trade tariffs. Or for that matter, what bureaucratic offices Tarkin would have go through when filing out paper work on it's construction. I was totally lost.
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