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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jan 19, 2016 2:15:51 GMT -5
Turn him face, and form a tag team with Neville Team DWDB Dudes Who Deserve Better. |
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jan 19, 2016 2:19:09 GMT -5
I don't disagree with the fact that Breeze has been screwed over badly with this call-up. The only thing I'll ever dispute is the opinion that he's completely done once and for all, because as much as we think he is... he isn't, not until he gets his walking papers. I don't doubt that Matt Clement will get another chance with something different, or even a different incarnation of Tyler Breeze ala Adam Rose's 20 gimmick changes in a month. But the character he came in with was money, and that was squandered. Just read a house show report that Tyler comes out, gets rolled up by Darren Young, demands another match and is then squashed and pinned by Titus. Two losses in one night. That's just a giant f*** you to Tyler, his fans, and to Hunter. To be reasonable, though, if it didn't happen on TV and they don't explicitly mention it, it may as well have never happened. He wasn't the first guy to take the quick house show losses trope and he won't be the last. All it'll take for Breeze to start turning it around is to string a few wins together and get in a couple of decent storylines (I know, but just work with me here). It's not as impossible as some make it out to be... I just hope he does get that chance to turn around his luck. |
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Jan 19, 2016 3:42:44 GMT -5
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like? You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that?
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 19, 2016 4:01:36 GMT -5
I called you dramatic and quoted you comparing Vince to a "King of a Trash Heap" (your words not mine). I left the readers to draw their own conclusions on my OPINION Vince owns the WWE Network. Guess what the only place to see NXT is? Yep. Any other questions? Yes, many. Mainly, how the WWE Network, which was reportedly spearheaded by George Barrios and Michelle Wilson, hosting NXT, a product that Paul Levesque not only runs but its also responsible for trying to push as a viable WWE product and draw for the company, is at all proof that Vince McMahon has an eye for talent in the year 2016. Like I said, you're giving credit to Vince McMahon for the good ideas of all the people under him whom I am saying would be able to do better than he is. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 19, 2016 4:25:23 GMT -5
Well I think all hope is lost with him taking the fall in a match where he the THE ASCENSION as his partners, a team that has been booked as the biggest losers on the roster. When you're lower on the totem pole then those guys that is not good not good at all. I'm expecting a near Santino/Bushwhacker Luke performance for poor Tyler in the Rumble. I think even if Breeze weren't booked as so badly he was going to get a short comedy elimination in the Rumble. It seems fitting for his character; He poses on the apron to take a selfie and gets bumped off the apron as he's trying to get into the ring. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 19, 2016 4:45:48 GMT -5
I feel like a quick patch for Tyler would be Miz taking him under his wing. Tyler's a model, full of himself, why not team him with Miz who is just as self centered and make a Tag Team out of it??
I'd say you could even build on the Neville feud since Neville refused Miz's help and Miz can one up Neville by using Breeze, if WWE didn't seem to just give up on the storyline entirely. But Breeze and Miz are a team I can see doing something. Throw in Tye Dillenger and you have the Ego Trio...
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jan 19, 2016 10:04:33 GMT -5
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like? You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? 
what the- I don't even- whaaaa?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 10:05:43 GMT -5
I guess the Mattel figure I have of him his displayed with the IC title will only be a dream of mine.  |
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Jan 19, 2016 10:36:46 GMT -5
I feel like a quick patch for Tyler would be Miz taking him under his wing. Tyler's a model, full of himself, why not team him with Miz who is just as self centered and make a Tag Team out of it?? I think a combination of Miz, Tyler and Sasha Banks could be pretty amazing. Miz and Tyler together would work really well. Would love to see them in the tag title mix. |
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Jan 19, 2016 11:36:19 GMT -5
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Post by trollrogue on Jan 19, 2016 11:37:18 GMT -5
I called you dramatic and quoted you comparing Vince to a "King of a Trash Heap" (your words not mine). I left the readers to draw their own conclusions on my OPINION Vince owns the WWE Network. Guess what the only place to see NXT is? Yep. Any other questions? Yes, many. Mainly, how the WWE Network, which was reportedly spearheaded by George Barrios and Michelle Wilson, hosting NXT, a product that Paul Levesque not only runs but its also responsible for trying to push as a viable WWE product and draw for the company, is at all proof that Vince McMahon has an eye for talent in the year 2016. Like I said, you're giving credit to Vince McMahon for the good ideas of all the people under him whom I am saying would be able to do better than he is. The people that work for Vince are making him money. Sounds like a person that knows what they're doing to me. Are you even really disagreeing with me now, or just being antagonistic for argument's sake? I think we agree that Vince employs people just like other companies have an R&D Division to make sure they have new products coming out to keep them ahead of the times. Vince has NXT (yes, he OWNS NXT-- Paul runs it and it's his complete design but without Vince's capital, resources, connections, legacy, etc. etc. etc. there would be no NXT-- surely you realize this.) HHH and Vince at the very least enjoy a symbiotic relationship when it comes to the two brands (which really are the exact same brands-- the Beast in the East 'ppv' really proved that by having the NXT card mixed together with the WWE main roster card like it was an everyday occurrence. Where do you draw the line and credit the good ideas of WWE/NXT to Hunter, and all the 'stale' unsuccessful ones to old fogey Vince? It seems an awful lot like cherry-picking to me... but again just my opinion. Vince will enjoy using Asuka, Nia Jax, Sami Zayn, Barin Corbin, and anyone else he feels is ready to 'Take Over' the main roster. HHH will use the vet WWE wrestlers as trainers, motivational speakers, jobbers, whatever he wants to help build NXT up as the hottest brand in pro-wrestling (aka with Vince's help and not by himself). There's even a storyline in place where NXT is only a training ground for wrestlers to 'graduate' into the WWE, so to say one has nothing to do with the other is just ignoring reality. Still at the end of the day, you are paying 9.99 to Vince's company if you want to see weekly NXT shows, the assorted NXT TakeOver live specials, and anything else NXT-related since it's a WWE Network only product. Again Vince is making money off something his employees are doing. Again, sounds like he is a successful leader of the WWE Empire to me, I'm curious why you saying "he's not" without any actual reasoning why aside from "he doesn't think of every single idea himself" is valid. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 19, 2016 14:06:12 GMT -5
I'm not arguing for argument's sake, I just can't wrap my head around this concept that Vince McMahon still has good creative ideas because his company has things that make money. Especially when the whole crux of this thread is the fact that an NXT prospect that the guy running NXT wanted to protect basically got shoved to the side when Vince decided he didn't have "it". Vince isn't going to enjoy using Asuka because Asuke was hired to be a consistent female draw in NXT, per Meltzer. You mentioned other companies "sending over" their top indie stars, when a) they aren't b) it's Hunter and the guys that Hunter has surrounded himself with who are getting these signings. I don't believe that these two things exist in different worlds, I just see the major differences in a product that Vince McMahon has total creative control over, versus a product where he exerts no creative control, and am noting that the one where Vince is hands off and just lets people do their thing is a significantly better and even just reception-wise more amicably received product.
Just, like, the entire point I'm trying to make is that Vince McMahon is not good for the product creatively anymore. It doesn't matter if the WWE network has subscribers, it doesn't matter who in his company not named Vince McMahon is doing what. You're throwing around "Vince owns NXT" like somehow that has literally anything to do with what I'm saying. This is about Vince McMahon, micromanager of the creative team and man responsible for every decision that gets made on television, not Vince McMahon, guy who owns a company where things happen.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 20, 2016 13:06:57 GMT -5
Here's more stuff. This is ridiculous. That's old news. Someone mentioned that early in the thread. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 13:09:27 GMT -5
Here's more stuff. This is ridiculous. That's old news. Someone mentioned that early in the thread. Thanks, deleted my post. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jan 20, 2016 13:24:18 GMT -5
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like? You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It’s just common sense. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 20, 2016 14:54:58 GMT -5
I feel like a quick patch for Tyler would be Miz taking him under his wing. Tyler's a model, full of himself, why not team him with Miz who is just as self centered and make a Tag Team out of it?? I think a combination of Miz, Tyler and Sasha Banks could be pretty amazing. Miz and Tyler together would work really well. Would love to see them in the tag title mix. "The Boss" should never be anyone's "girlfriend" unless she was the one wearing the pants and the dude was her bitch. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 20, 2016 15:37:06 GMT -5
I feel like a quick patch for Tyler would be Miz taking him under his wing. Tyler's a model, full of himself, why not team him with Miz who is just as self centered and make a Tag Team out of it?? This is one of the best ideas I've ever seen on this forum. Those two are the perfect pairing. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jan 21, 2016 2:10:08 GMT -5
I think a combination of Miz, Tyler and Sasha Banks could be pretty amazing. Miz and Tyler together would work really well. Would love to see them in the tag title mix. "The Boss" should never be anyone's "girlfriend" unless she was the one wearing the pants and the dude was her bitch. Why would she need to be his girlfriend in this situation? They just all make fun of people and hang out. |
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Post by WWEedy on Jan 21, 2016 10:08:11 GMT -5
I think a combination of Miz, Tyler and Sasha Banks could be pretty amazing. Miz and Tyler together would work really well. Would love to see them in the tag title mix. "The Boss" should never be anyone's "girlfriend" unless she was the one wearing the pants and the dude was her bitch. Yeah no offence but this is a kinda weird thing to say. It's also kinda weird that you went from one end of the spectrum to another, like one of them has to wear the pants and lead the other as if being equal partners who have a healthy relationship and have fun on screen wrestling together is something that is so perposterous it wasn't even considered. Sasha and Breeze could share the spotlight, live the highlife and kick ass together without one domineering the other like a bitch. |
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jan 21, 2016 16:39:45 GMT -5
"The Boss" should never be anyone's "girlfriend" unless she was the one wearing the pants and the dude was her bitch. Yeah no offence but this is a kinda weird thing to say. It's also kinda weird that you went from one end of the spectrum to another, like one of them has to wear the pants and lead the other as if being equal partners who have a healthy relationship and have fun on screen wrestling together is something that is so perposterous it wasn't even considered. Sasha and Breeze could share the spotlight, live the highlife and kick ass together without one domineering the other like a bitch. Sasha should never have an on-screen significant other, to be honest. She shouldn't have a group or a tag partner, no one. Sasha does her best work alone. |
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