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Post by Welfare Willis on Jan 21, 2016 20:33:30 GMT -5
Just please STOP THE FLYING HEADBUTT. THAT GOES FOR EVERYONE Unless your name is Butthead because the flying Butthead headbutt is a great finisher name. Also your name is Butthead so I got to imagine your value to society is pretty damn low. |
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 21, 2016 20:40:59 GMT -5
At last! The return of Adam Bomb AKA Bryan Clarke!
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 21, 2016 20:47:49 GMT -5
WWE employing people with fishy reputations? Well I never! |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 21, 2016 21:00:23 GMT -5
WWE employing people with fishy reputations? Well I never!  It's his time to shine. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 21:07:38 GMT -5
Yeah, Bryan needs to change his style up. He's in the rare position of being so over that he doesn't need to go all out anymore. Have him in shorter matches and less high spots, and he might be able to maintain some level of health.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 21:09:44 GMT -5
To me this article makes him sound like a patsy who is controlled by whatever giant corporation is paying him. |
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Post by Juice on Jan 21, 2016 21:43:01 GMT -5
I think that this is more or less a situation created by Punks lawsuit and the WWE docs don't wanna risk anything in lieu of other lawsuits going on.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 22, 2016 1:22:51 GMT -5
As stupid as it sounds I'm beginning to wonder if they even want him back, he'll just derail the moderate Reigns popularity If Cena was in the same position as Bryan I have no doubt he'd be cleared to return If Bryan can still have a "main event" match at Mania, it won't hurt Reigns at all. If the plan is to put Bryan in a random filler six man tag against New Day, that's what's gonna kill Reigns' popularity. Bryan can't be doing "Creative has nothing for you, but you're too big to leave off the card" random BS. He needs to be in the title picture Or wrestling HHH, Brock or Taker. Bryan vs Del Rio feud for the US title maybe? If you want people to start chanting "Die Roman Die" again. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 1:27:15 GMT -5
Honestly they probably still won't bring him back until this Vito thing is cleared up.
I'm just happy if nothing else we'll one day get him YESing it up in ROH or something.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jan 22, 2016 1:35:12 GMT -5
I know I'll probably receive some flack for this. But I think a lot of this has to do with the WWE still being bitter, vindictive, and petty over the fans hijacking their shows and demanding him in the top spot. He's not the only one who has been prone to concussions. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they're not clearing him because of past booking and Reigns being crapped on.
Look at how they booked Bryan when he was the champion. They put him in a horrible feud with Kane and it didn't do either of them any favors.
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Post by sonofblaine on Jan 22, 2016 1:59:16 GMT -5
Just please STOP THE FLYING HEADBUTT. THAT GOES FOR EVERYONE Truth be told, never a fan even before the brain damage issue. It comes across as the most ridiculous move that would hurt the user more than the victim (and as we learned, for real). |
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Post by Reflecto on Jan 22, 2016 2:25:21 GMT -5
Eh, their doctor sort of has final say. Doctors can differ in opinion from other doctors and still be right, and not every doctor is going to arrive at teh same opinion given the same set of information. Even then,that's why this doctor's opinion is important. Before, it was Bryan's doctor's opinion vs. the WWE's doctor's opinion, so it can be a difference in opinion and WWE's doctor having final say is there. If TWO different doctors are saying Bryan can wrestle as opposed to this one doctor saying he can't wrestle? There's more proof that maybe their doctor's opinion is the wrong one. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 2:29:49 GMT -5
I know I'll probably receive some flack for this. But I think a lot of this has to do with the WWE still being bitter, vindictive, and petty over the fans hijacking their shows and demanding him in the top spot. He's not the only one who has been prone to concussions. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they're not clearing him because of past booking and Reigns being crapped on. Look at how they booked Bryan when he was the champion. They put him in a horrible feud with Kane and it didn't do either of them any favors. I don't think it's over that. After all, Bryan has been shown to help ratings and to sell merch, and even if not, he's a good hand who's very versatile and would help fill some major gaps in the roster at the moment. It's much more likely the reason they're hesitating on him is entirely because of the Vito situation. |
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Post by Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks on Jan 22, 2016 2:30:20 GMT -5
Those damned indie neurologists and their flippy-do flipping of switches on their CT scan machines. What the hell do they know about neurons firing on the big stage? Their nervous systems have functioned in front of, what ... 150 people max?
What we need to do is get this guy into NXT, change his name to Dr. Burgundy and spend a couple of years teaching him to work the WWE neurology style.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Jan 22, 2016 3:49:06 GMT -5
DB is supposed to be in my neck of the woods (Pittsburgh) for the World of Wheels Car Show at the David L. Lawrence Convention Center this Friday at 6p.m.
I can't make it, and the snowstorm is supposed to hit around 4, but if any 'Burgh people on here can make it, why not see if they can get some info?
Straight from the goat's mouth, as JBL would say.
Forgot to mention, I heard that Rollins was supposed to appear, but DB replaced him. Maybe find out what happened there as well.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 22, 2016 7:47:32 GMT -5
Even then,that's why this doctor's opinion is important. Before, it was Bryan's doctor's opinion vs. the WWE's doctor's opinion, so it can be a difference in opinion and WWE's doctor having final say is there. If TWO different doctors are saying Bryan can wrestle as opposed to this one doctor saying he can't wrestle? There's more proof that maybe their doctor's opinion is the wrong one. Or it could mean that Bryan hunted for two doctors that might agree with him and ignored anyone who didn't (much the same way a lot of wrestlers found doctors who would prescribe them medications that they really shouldn't have had). Multiple doctors can agree on something an still be wrong. The point is, you can spin these thing any which way depending on what you want to prove. But WWE's doc likely works with wrestlers more often and knows the demands more intimately, so WWE wouldn't necessarily be in the wrong for taking his word over whatever two doctors Bryan brought. His extensive history of concussions and neck problems is a red flag, especially now that we know how dangerous concussion syndromes are. LIke it or not, that history isn't going to change, it can only get worse from here. Yes, WWE's doctor has a vested interest in the well-being of the company, but that interest in this case really does align with limitating the possiblity of Bryan getting the problems of CTE (which is still a fairly new area of study that a lot of doctors are not fully up to date on). I wouldn't blame them if they still went with their doctor all things considered. It'd be awesome if Bryan came back, especially with a safer style, but those flags are always going to be there with him. |
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Post by Reflecto on Jan 22, 2016 8:40:10 GMT -5
Even then,that's why this doctor's opinion is important. Before, it was Bryan's doctor's opinion vs. the WWE's doctor's opinion, so it can be a difference in opinion and WWE's doctor having final say is there. If TWO different doctors are saying Bryan can wrestle as opposed to this one doctor saying he can't wrestle? There's more proof that maybe their doctor's opinion is the wrong one. Or it could mean that Bryan hunted for two doctors that might agree with him and ignored anyone who didn't (much the same way a lot of wrestlers found doctors who would prescribe them medications that they really shouldn't have had). Multiple doctors can agree on something an still be wrong. The point is, you can spin these thing any which way depending on what you want to prove. But WWE's doc likely works with wrestlers more often and knows the demands more intimately, so WWE wouldn't necessarily be in the wrong for taking his word over whatever two doctors Bryan brought. His extensive history of concussions and neck problems is a red flag, especially now that we know how dangerous concussion syndromes are. LIke it or not, that history isn't going to change, it can only get worse from here. Yes, WWE's doctor has a vested interest in the well-being of the company, but that interest in this case really does align with limitating the possiblity of Bryan getting the problems of CTE (which is still a fairly new area of study that a lot of doctors are not fully up to date on). I wouldn't blame them if they still went with their doctor all things considered. It'd be awesome if Bryan came back, especially with a safer style, but those flags are always going to be there with him. First off, multiple doctors can agree on something and still be wrong, but if multiple high-level doctors are saying something and one doctor is saying the opposite, it's more likely that the one doctor who disagrees is wrong than the multiple doctors. Even assuming that Joseph Maroon is the only high-level neurologist who isn't a quack in all of the United States and Maroon's the only person who got it right for Daniel Bryan's head, I'd choose to agree on this, if not for the fact that your CTE argument is a bad example. WWE themselves know about CTE, but it has been known in football circles (and put in this thread as well beforehand) that Dr. Maroon himself is controversial as the Steelers' doctor for not believing that CTE even exists. Believing someone who claims CTE doesn't exist is somehow using the same argument of CTE to keep Daniel Bryan held out of the ring for concussion issues does not pass the smell test. With these claims- in all likeliness, Maroon is more likely to be the one who got it wrong here on his second opinion (and now, from an independent neurologist giving a second opinion to that) or a belief that Bryan's flags are there...and I only say it's the most likely case because I don't even want to assume the worst case of "The WWE openly told Maroon to never clear Daniel Bryan to wrestle no matter how good his tests are, solely to force the fans to accept Roman Reigns as the next big star" is anything more than conspiracy theory. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 9:16:17 GMT -5
Those damned indie neurologists and their flippy-do flipping of switches on their CT scan machines. What the hell do they know about neurons firing on the big stage? Their nervous systems have functioned in front of, what ... 150 people max? What we need to do is get this guy into NXT, change his name to Dr. Burgundy and spend a couple of years teaching him to work the WWE neurology style. I had a germ of this thought and you put it beautifully. Bless you. |
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Post by Ringmaster on Jan 22, 2016 11:08:23 GMT -5
Save_Us.Bryan
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 22, 2016 11:15:13 GMT -5
In my head canon, Dr Maroon is related to RK Maroon, of the world famous Maroon Cartoons.
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