Why use fake blood?

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Feb 24, 2016 7:41:14 GMT -5 Pushed to the Moon said:

I can't believe Roman only took a couple of chair shots to the back at Fastlane. Unless he's taking 11 unprotected shots to the head then why even bother?

On Raw it also seemed like HHH didn't even legitimately smash Reigns' face into the stairs on the pedigree. Reigns must have really whined about it backstage and chickened out. What a pussy. No wonder nobody likes him.

This wasn't really that valid a point the first 100 times it was made.

It's possible to have an argument as to whether fake blood achieves the same results as the age-old system of blading without:

"OMG there wasn't even a real intergalactic war and Luke Skywalker is an actor!!!" sarcasm stuff.

Take the announce table spot. I think that the obviously rigged set-up of the tables lessens the impact of the spot compared to when it really was just a table with monitors and all that. You're entitled to disagree with the point but I don't see how relentless ridicule of it is necessary.

[Ringmaster]

Feb 24, 2016 7:46:44 GMT -5 @haddockary said:

Feb 24, 2016 7:41:14 GMT -5 Pushed to the Moon said:

I can't believe Roman only took a couple of chair shots to the back at Fastlane. Unless he's taking 11 unprotected shots to the head then why even bother?

On Raw it also seemed like HHH didn't even legitimately smash Reigns' face into the stairs on the pedigree. Reigns must have really whined about it backstage and chickened out. What a pussy. No wonder nobody likes him.

This wasn't really that valid a point the first 100 times it was made.

It's possible to have an argument as to whether fake blood achieves the same results as the age-old system of blading without:

"OMG there wasn't even a real intergalactic war and Luke Skywalker is an actor!!!" sarcasm stuff.

Take the announce table spot. I think that the obviously rigged set-up of the tables lessens the impact of the spot compared to when it really was just a table with monitors and all that. You're entitled to disagree with the point but I don't see how relentless ridicule of it is necessary.

Your sig is deadpool and you don't see the necessity in ridicule, That's why you got shot in the bum, though the red spandex does hide the blood stains.

[mcstoklasa]

Why use fake blood when you can use..

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Feb 24, 2016 7:54:55 GMT -5 Ringmaster said:

Feb 24, 2016 7:46:44 GMT -5 @haddockary said:

This wasn't really that valid a point the first 100 times it was made.

It's possible to have an argument as to whether fake blood achieves the same results as the age-old system of blading without:

"OMG there wasn't even a real intergalactic war and Luke Skywalker is an actor!!!" sarcasm stuff.

Take the announce table spot. I think that the obviously rigged set-up of the tables lessens the impact of the spot compared to when it really was just a table with monitors and all that. You're entitled to disagree with the point but I don't see how relentless ridicule of it is necessary.

Your sig is deadpool and you don't see the necessity in ridicule, That's why you got shot in the bum, though the red spandex does hide the blood stains.

Deadpool didn't blade for that, he just swallowed a small piece of jagged rock a few hours before and hoped for the best

[Pushed to the Moon]

Feb 24, 2016 7:46:44 GMT -5 @haddockary said:

Feb 24, 2016 7:41:14 GMT -5 Pushed to the Moon said:

I can't believe Roman only took a couple of chair shots to the back at Fastlane. Unless he's taking 11 unprotected shots to the head then why even bother?

On Raw it also seemed like HHH didn't even legitimately smash Reigns' face into the stairs on the pedigree. Reigns must have really whined about it backstage and chickened out. What a pussy. No wonder nobody likes him.

This wasn't really that valid a point the first 100 times it was made.

It's possible to have an argument as to whether fake blood achieves the same results as the age-old system of blading without:

"OMG there wasn't even a real intergalactic war and Luke Skywalker is an actor!!!" sarcasm stuff.

Take the announce table spot. I think that the obviously rigged set-up of the tables lessens the impact of the spot compared to when it really was just a table with monitors and all that. You're entitled to disagree with the point but I don't see how relentless ridicule of it is necessary.

Well yeah I was being a dick but I still think fake blood and real blood can accomplish the same thing. How is "real blood" actually "realer?". Austin vs Bret had the iconic image of the blood pouring down Austin's face and yeah it was Austin's actual blood but did the fight cause the blood? No, he did it to himself on purpose with a blade. He's still manufacturing the moment. If he'd poured blood on his head BUT you didn't notice would you not enjoy it?

I didn't notice Roman blood capsuling either and thought he actually got his face messed up until I read it on here so I think fake blood can still work.

[Futureraven: Beelzebruv]

Feb 24, 2016 8:02:22 GMT -5 Pushed to the Moon said:

Feb 24, 2016 7:46:44 GMT -5 @haddockary said:

This wasn't really that valid a point the first 100 times it was made.

It's possible to have an argument as to whether fake blood achieves the same results as the age-old system of blading without:

"OMG there wasn't even a real intergalactic war and Luke Skywalker is an actor!!!" sarcasm stuff.

Take the announce table spot. I think that the obviously rigged set-up of the tables lessens the impact of the spot compared to when it really was just a table with monitors and all that. You're entitled to disagree with the point but I don't see how relentless ridicule of it is necessary.

Well yeah I was being a dick but I still think fake blood and real blood can accomplish the same thing. How is "real blood" actually "realer?". Austin vs Bret had the iconic image of the blood pouring down Austin's face and yeah it was Austin's actual blood but did the fight cause the blood? No, he did it to himself on purpose with a blade. He's still manufacturing the moment. If he'd poured blood on his head BUT you didn't notice would you not enjoy it?

I didn't notice Roman blood capsuling either and thought he actually got his face messed up until I read it on here so I think fake blood can still work.

The Austin thing isn't the best example, because it being from a real cut meant it could keep flowing as he was in the hold and get worse. Unless you had Shamrock reapply every couple of minutes, fake wouldn't have worked and that would have looked terrible.

If the guy wants to and is medically cleared before the match, have at it, but I'd prefer them not to take the risk.

Yeah you have iconic moments with blood, but also moments like Hogan/Andre, HBK/Razor's ladder match and many others that didn't need it. You should be able to make these moments organically, so people care whether or not a guy bleeds.

[543Y2J]

Guns AND NOW BLADES are used on the streets of FAN? No one will survive

[saintpat]

Next thing you know, cop movies and TV shows will start using FAKE bullets.

It takes away from the power of REAL bullets, which everyone understands.

[pegasuswarrior]

We need to make sure that wrestlers more clearly whiff with at least three feet of air between them and their opponent when they take a shot at or kick someone too. And can we do something about power bombs and impact moves? Put a mattress down for crying out loud. Or at least lie them down on the mat just before impact. And please stroke their hand gently afterward and sing them a lullaby to console not only them, but also the crowd who do not realize that there is an element of sport and combat to any of this.

Safety first. Those tiaras won't fit right if someone is swollen or has a nick from a razor blade.

[Heinz Doofenschmirtz]

I have no idea what people think 'pretentious' means but it's being used incorrectly time and time again in this thread.

Also, being 'PC' has nothing to do with fake blood. It's a silly acronym that people use for 'stuff I don't like'.

And can we stop with using 'pussy' as a derogatory name for men. It's sexist. (There! Now that was PC.)

[Sephiroth]

Feb 24, 2016 3:38:50 GMT -5 ritt works hard fo da chickens said:

This should be reason enough that blading is never allowed again.

Was going to say that

[Burst]

I feel like I'm going to lose brain cells wading into this thread, but I'd like to point out that this is essentially the same argument I see ad nauseum in places like football and motorsports, where concussion research or dead drivers be damned, we want our football players and race car drivers to have dementia when they're 50 or die from avoidable accidents because safety is for PC pansies.

It's no different than F1 and Indycar fans bitching and moaning about possibly putting cockpit canopies or some forms of head protection on the cars (when nearly all the deaths in open-wheel racing in the last twenty years have been from objects hitting the driver's head) because open-cockpit is "traditional". Always the goddamn appeal to tradition.

And always the slippery slope, too. You can't advocate any sort of a safety upgrade without someone immediately jumping on you and going "So you want nobody to win and everyone to get a participation ribbon too, right?"

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oof, someone woke up on the wrong side of the 4chan this morning.

Well, good to know the "Faces of Death" fanbase is still as coherent and forward-thinking as ever.

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Feb 24, 2016 12:27:54 GMT -5 Burst said:

I feel like I'm going to lose brain cells wading into this thread, but I'd like to point out that this is essentially the same argument I see ad nauseum in places like football and motorsports, where concussion research or dead drivers be damned, we want our football players and race car drivers to have dementia when they're 50 or die from avoidable accidents because safety is for PC pansies.

It's no different than F1 and Indycar fans bitching and moaning about possibly putting cockpit canopies or some forms of head protection on the cars (when nearly all the deaths in open-wheel racing in the last twenty years have been from objects hitting the driver's head) because open-cockpit is "traditional". Always the goddamn appeal to tradition.

And always the slippery slope, too. You can't advocate any sort of a safety upgrade without someone immediately jumping on you and going "So you want nobody to win and everyone to get a participation ribbon too, right?"

But we're talking about wrestling. A sport where every match every person does at least one thing they're likely an inch or two away from complete paralysis if they mistime something or land askew. Land awkwardly from a scoopslam or an F5 or a suplex and that's it. The risk being, far, far, far higher than a stunt that could effectively had all its risks eliminated by testing.

In that context then asking whether it creates a better effect if someone bleeds in a deliberate and controlled way, after thorough testing, isn't as outrageously goulish as some some make out. Blading carries far less risk for health given that they're in a position to control it and carry out tests before hand than 99% of every single move you see in every single match. 

If tomorrow they said that they were stopping any bumps, citing the numerous and sometimes devastating injuries that sometimes occur form bumping, something we know to be undoubtedly true, it wouldnt mean anyone who argued against the change could be compared to people who don't care if football players get dementia, does it? Were they to ban bumping tomorrow would you be hear defending saying "oh so everyone who disagrees WANTS wrestlers to end up in wheelchairs do they?" I don't think you would. If the rule is 'it's dangerous anyone who wants it done still is an animal' - then let's campaign against any form of wrestling move/action that isn't Hulk Hogan kick, punch and point. Yes? 

Of couse blading carries a risk, but there isn't one person on here who isn't a massive fan of at least 100 different other things that carry much more of a risk, so I don't really get the indignation or arguments of false equivalence.  Don't like it? Fine but don't pop for a pedigree off the steps and then imply that others are monsters for wanting someone else to blade when what you support is mutiple times more likely to lead to medical complications than blading.

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Feb 24, 2016 12:53:21 GMT -5 @haddockary said:

Feb 24, 2016 12:27:54 GMT -5 Burst said:

I feel like I'm going to lose brain cells wading into this thread, but I'd like to point out that this is essentially the same argument I see ad nauseum in places like football and motorsports, where concussion research or dead drivers be damned, we want our football players and race car drivers to have dementia when they're 50 or die from avoidable accidents because safety is for PC pansies.

It's no different than F1 and Indycar fans bitching and moaning about possibly putting cockpit canopies or some forms of head protection on the cars (when nearly all the deaths in open-wheel racing in the last twenty years have been from objects hitting the driver's head) because open-cockpit is "traditional". Always the goddamn appeal to tradition.

And always the slippery slope, too. You can't advocate any sort of a safety upgrade without someone immediately jumping on you and going "So you want nobody to win and everyone to get a participation ribbon too, right?"

But we're talking about wrestling. A sport where every match every person does at least one thing they're likely an inch or two away from complete paralysis if they mistime something or land askew. Land awkwardly from a scoopslam or an F5 or a suplex and that's it. The risk being, far, far, far higher than a stunt that could effectively had all its risks eliminated by testing.

In that context then asking whether it creates a better effect if someone bleeds in a deliberate and controlled way, after thorough testing, isn't as outrageously goulish as some some make out. Blading carries far less risk for health given that they're in a position to control it and carry out tests before hand than 99% of every single move you see in every single match. 

If tomorrow they said that they were stopping any bumps, citing the numerous and sometimes devastating injuries that sometimes occur form bumping, something we know to be undoubtedly true, it wouldnt mean anyone who argued against the change could be compared to people who don't care if football players get dementia, does it? Were they to ban bumping tomorrow would you be hear defending saying "oh so everyone who disagrees WANTS wrestlers to end up in wheelchairs do they?" I don't think you would. If the rule is 'it's dangerous anyone who wants it done still is an animal' - then let's campaign against any form of wrestling move/action that isn't Hulk Hogan kick, punch and point. Yes? 

Of couse blading carries a risk, but there isn't one person on here who isn't a massive fan of at least 100 different other things that carry much more of a risk, so I don't really get the indignation or arguments of false equivalence.  Don't like it? Fine but don't pop for a pedigree off the steps and then imply that others are monsters for wanting someone else to blade when what you support is mutiple times more likely to lead to medical complications than blading.

Blading and fake blood are fairly interchangeable to most fans. Most people couldn't even tell the blood was fake on Monday. Some could, but I'd argue that most viewers either couldn't tell the difference or didn't even bother to make the distinction.

You're comparing something that has a relatively safe alternative that most people won't notice the difference in to NOT taking any bumps.

Its not an apt comparison because if someone created a less harmful ALTERNATIVE to bumping that would go largely unnoticed by the majority of people, then that would be a better comparison to blading/fake blood.

Its not really fair to compare creating a viable alternative to something and the complete absence of something.

[Alice Syndrome]

I think a good example of a plausible situation is this:

Seth Rollins and Zahra Schreiber both cheated on their fiancées with each other, it's not unlikely one of them would do it again. (Sorry Seth, jist needed an example here) Say they get Hep C some time before his match with Ambrose that had the cinder block stomp. With no blood ban, that match looks like a slasher fic.

Somehow Rollins bleeds on Reigns, and Reigns and Lesnar actually busted eachother hard way at Mania, plus whatever happens in the IC title ladder match

Roman later goes on to have a bunch of main events against everyone like IRL but with the occasional blade. Let's say against HHH for good measure.

Meanwhile Seth or Zahra finally start feeling the effects of the slow acting STD they have, and see a doctor. Cue everyone from Roman to Sable collectively getting tested for everything, and probably baptised by 4 priests for good measure, all because we needed a little colour just to make it look cool.

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I'm not saying it's wise to meet someone on the indy scene, get told you're working together that night and then within two hours find yourself covered in half a pint of his blood. But screening and careful planning can practically eliminate the risks. When we're talking about an industry that asks its employees to take risks far, far greater with their health than the statistically irrelevant risk of the chance of getting a slight bit of your opponents heavily screened and tested blood slightly smearing on you, I don't think it's necessarily fair to paint those who think blading still has a place as people who don't care about footballer's concussions and who get angry when they find out Freddy Krueger isn't actually killing the teenagers in the films.

[Aboutreika18]

A wild gimmick poster appears!

[Lupin the Third]

Fake blood....

You scare me like the real thing...

And if you were the real thing....

You'd scare me more....

So pour it on....

Like it's the real thing....

Fake blood....

You ROCK ME LIKE THE REAL THING, YEAHAAAH!!

SO POUR IT OOOONNNN!!

LIKE IT'S THE REAL THIIINNNG!!!

FAAAAKE BLOOOD!!

YOU ROCK ME LIKE THE REAL THIINNNG!!!

[The Ichi]

Feb 24, 2016 2:30:48 GMT -5 Venti said:

Now, I'm not picking any sides but...
The way you guys are jumping on and responding someone whose viewpoint doesn't fit with the general hivemind here just comes off so pretentious.

Because it's an obvious troll account/thread?