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Post by Fade on Mar 3, 2017 15:17:17 GMT -5
All the reviews are killing me, I want to watch this so bad. I'm making my GF catch up on the gist of the films and the timeline.
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Post by chazraps on Mar 3, 2017 16:08:40 GMT -5
Seriously, when in any sort of timeline is this supposed to take place?
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Post by Fade on Mar 3, 2017 16:15:44 GMT -5
There's a video floating around YT (I don't have wifi right now, can't link it) that breaks it down from the original movie throughout all the films.
They conclusion/theory is this is years, years after the "Happy Days" ending of Days of Future Past and when that occurred it made a separate timeline with some of the prior stuff from the movies having occurred but it's all very ambiguous.
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Post by Display Name on Mar 3, 2017 17:39:10 GMT -5
Saw it this morning. f***, this was a brutal movie(in every sense of the word). Loved it.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Mar 3, 2017 17:44:01 GMT -5
That was really good. It took them till the 3rd one to make an awesome Wolverine movie. I really liked that despite how brutal it was, they had plenty of comedy.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 3, 2017 17:53:19 GMT -5
There's a video floating around YT (I don't have wifi right now, can't link it) that breaks it down from the original movie throughout all the films. They conclusion/theory is this is years, years after the "Happy Days" ending of Days of Future Past and when that occurred it made a separate timeline with some of the prior stuff from the movies having occurred but it's all very ambiguous. I saw that video last night after having seen Logan, and I'd say it's pretty spot-on. |
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Mar 3, 2017 17:56:27 GMT -5
There's a video floating around YT (I don't have wifi right now, can't link it) that breaks it down from the original movie throughout all the films. They conclusion/theory is this is years, years after the "Happy Days" ending of Days of Future Past and when that occurred it made a separate timeline with some of the prior stuff from the movies having occurred but it's all very ambiguous. I saw that video last night after having seen Logan, and I'd say it's pretty spot-on. I am STILL maintaining my personal theory that Xmen, X2, Last Stand, The Wolverine, and now Logan, are their own timeline. That's right people, the theory I won't stop bringing up, that NO ONE asked for or considers! |
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Mar 3, 2017 20:02:47 GMT -5
That was amazing. I will fully admit that I got teary-eyed many times watching this film.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Mar 3, 2017 20:15:00 GMT -5
For those who have seen it, do I need to know the ins and outs of the xmen film series to get this movie? I seem the original trilogy but I haven't kept up with them aside from that.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Mar 3, 2017 20:15:46 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Just saw it in a packed, but respectfully quiet, theater.
I thought it was above average, the score was fantastic and the idea of an older Logan was really well executed. The scenes of Logan accepting a daughter and really understanding what to love/being loved was like was great as well.
That said, I felt parts of this movie took itself way too seriously. The pathos and downer parts weren't as super unnecessary and needlessly conflicted as The Dark Knight Rises or Man of Steel were, but there were a few points that really felt like it was trying too hard to be the edgy not-for-kids hard-R version of a comic book movie with a character that has had several Saturday morning cartoon shows.
This really didn't have to be R-Rated. That level gore was really needless, as was the nudity.
I also this the X-24 clone was a pretty underwhelming surprise. Like, that clone bullshit is what turned off so many people about Marvel and is such an easy cop out for stories in the comics.
I do think there's a subtle touch for how the past 17 years has built up the whole Wolverine "Doesn't like guns," and then ultimately his last most needed act of heroics involved him using a gun to kill the bloodline of the person who originally made him Wolverine, as well as put an end to his own line of tortured genetics with the adamantium bullet.
The girl playing his daughter was amazing and I have no idea how they cast her, there must be some agent with hundreds of hours of tween-adamantium-rage audition footage.
Stephen Merchant as Caliban really blew me away and is the unsung hero of the whole thing. Amazing performance. Wonderful score too, maybe the best of any X-Men film.
Overall, I don't think this is really the end. Professor X dead in an unmarked grave next to a lake and Logan buried by the next line of mutants strikes me as too edgelord. It's also only been, what, 15 years since the retconned years of Days of Future Past? Where is everyone else? Do all mutants just die in their 40s or something? I can buy no new mutants being born, and Logan being a loner, but how does this explain everyone losing touch with Xavier?
It's worth seeing, but there's been better X-Men films, and the running foreshadowing of death fake-outs makes me believe Logan isn't really dead and this isn't the last hoorah. {Spoiler}The implication of Xavier's confession to "Logan"(actually X-24) before his death is that Xavier killed all the other X-Men/mutants that weren't hunted down by Caliban in one of his psychic seizures. They kept mentioning Westchester, which is where Xavier's school/mansion is located. |
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Post by andrew8798 on Mar 3, 2017 20:16:15 GMT -5
BOM has it doing 74 million this weekend
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Post by chazraps on Mar 3, 2017 20:28:53 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Just saw it in a packed, but respectfully quiet, theater.
I thought it was above average, the score was fantastic and the idea of an older Logan was really well executed. The scenes of Logan accepting a daughter and really understanding what to love/being loved was like was great as well.
That said, I felt parts of this movie took itself way too seriously. The pathos and downer parts weren't as super unnecessary and needlessly conflicted as The Dark Knight Rises or Man of Steel were, but there were a few points that really felt like it was trying too hard to be the edgy not-for-kids hard-R version of a comic book movie with a character that has had several Saturday morning cartoon shows.
This really didn't have to be R-Rated. That level gore was really needless, as was the nudity.
I also this the X-24 clone was a pretty underwhelming surprise. Like, that clone bullshit is what turned off so many people about Marvel and is such an easy cop out for stories in the comics.
I do think there's a subtle touch for how the past 17 years has built up the whole Wolverine "Doesn't like guns," and then ultimately his last most needed act of heroics involved him using a gun to kill the bloodline of the person who originally made him Wolverine, as well as put an end to his own line of tortured genetics with the adamantium bullet.
The girl playing his daughter was amazing and I have no idea how they cast her, there must be some agent with hundreds of hours of tween-adamantium-rage audition footage.
Stephen Merchant as Caliban really blew me away and is the unsung hero of the whole thing. Amazing performance. Wonderful score too, maybe the best of any X-Men film.
Overall, I don't think this is really the end. Professor X dead in an unmarked grave next to a lake and Logan buried by the next line of mutants strikes me as too edgelord. It's also only been, what, 15 years since the retconned years of Days of Future Past? Where is everyone else? Do all mutants just die in their 40s or something? I can buy no new mutants being born, and Logan being a loner, but how does this explain everyone losing touch with Xavier?
It's worth seeing, but there's been better X-Men films, and the running foreshadowing of death fake-outs makes me believe Logan isn't really dead and this isn't the last hoorah. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}The implication of Xavier's confession to "Logan"(actually X-24) before his death is that Xavier killed all the other X-Men/mutants that weren't hunted down by Caliban in one of his psychic seizures. They kept mentioning Westchester, which is where Xavier's school/mansion is located. {Spoiler}That's needlessly bleak and stupid. The further away I get from the film, the more edgelordy it seems. Thanks for the clarification though. |
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Post by chazraps on Mar 3, 2017 20:41:35 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Wait, so the whole corn syrup thing is what wiped out all the mutants that Professor X didn't? I took the film's corn syrup explanation as to why no new mutants were being born, but CORN SYRUP POISONED THEM? |
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Post by andrew8798 on Mar 3, 2017 22:54:55 GMT -5
Movie made 9.5 million last night
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Post by Display Name on Mar 4, 2017 1:02:44 GMT -5
For those who have seen it, do I need to know the ins and outs of the xmen film series to get this movie? I seem the original trilogy but I haven't kept up with them aside from that. Nope. Watch it and enjoy. |
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 4, 2017 1:57:53 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Wait, so the whole corn syrup thing is what wiped out all the mutants that Professor X didn't? I took the film's corn syrup explanation as to why no new mutants were being born, but CORN SYRUP POISONED THEM? {Spoiler}No, the Legacy Virus that Xander Rice began lacing the corn syrup with did. Do you not realize how logical that is? It's a common ingredient in so many foods and drinks. Between this and some of your other critiques, I'm wondering if you actually paid attention to the film. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 2:35:23 GMT -5
Just got back from the theater; I loved it. Actually got misty-eyed which I did not expect. Jackman, Stewart and Keen were all outstanding. My main issue was the incongruity between this film and Days of Future Past (in terms of both tone and continuity), but after looking into it Hugh Jackman has said that the film is basically meant to be a stand-alone, which I think makes the all-around edginess feel a lot more palatable than it would otherwise. Frankly I think that's the sort of thing comic book movies could afford to do more often.
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Post by chazraps on Mar 4, 2017 4:11:19 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Wait, so the whole corn syrup thing is what wiped out all the mutants that Professor X didn't? I took the film's corn syrup explanation as to why no new mutants were being born, but CORN SYRUP POISONED THEM? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}No, the Legacy Virus that Xander Rice began lacing the corn syrup with did. Do you not realize how logical that is? It's a common ingredient in so many foods and drinks. Between this and some of your other critiques, I'm wondering if you actually paid attention to the film. {Spoiler}No, I get that the corn syrup was laced, it's just stupid. |
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Post by Evil Homer on Mar 4, 2017 7:16:13 GMT -5
I have not seen amy xmen or solo Wolverine movies but am really interested in seeing this one . Can someone breakdown for me which movies came before this one
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 4, 2017 7:42:47 GMT -5
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