Venom (2018?)

[The Unconquered Sun]

I swear I need some kind of “map” in someone’s basement with red string connecting various pictures and new clippings to follow all of these theories on who’s to blame for bad comic book movies anymore

[riseofsetian1981]

Oct 2, 2018 17:27:33 GMT -5 The Unconquered Sun said:

I swear I need some kind of “map” in someone’s basement with red string connecting various pictures and new clippings to follow all of these theories on who’s to blame for bad comic book movies anymore

As I stated the DCEU conspiracy theory kind of made sense and held water. Why would fans want Venom to fail in favor of Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga's upcoming film? Sure, Bradley plays Rocket but the audience is completely different and if I am not mistaken "A Star Is Born" is a remake anyways. Now if it was say "Aquaman" or "Shazam" then I could be like "Okay, maybe you're on to something". But at least those two look good so far. Venom looks so unappealing and ridiculous that the trailers alone made me say "Nope."

[Citizen Snips]

Oct 2, 2018 17:09:17 GMT -5 riseofsetian1981 said:

Oct 2, 2018 15:02:03 GMT -5 Mighty Attack Tribble said:

Well, the "don't listen to the biased critics" argument has gotten off to a weird start...

I read that "A Star Is Born" has been getting some surprisingly great reviews and a lot of people I know personally has been asking me about it. As an employee at a movie theatre several customers have come in talking about it too. Thinking this might be a surprise hit actually.

It's been pegged as a huge Oscar contender pretty much since the trailer was released. It's "Oscar Bait" to be sure (remake of beloved story, Oscar darling actor also directs, huge star from another arena proves she can act too, etc) but it was always on the fast track to critical and commercial success.

[Shark]

I won't lie, seeing these reviews has actually made me want to see the movie. It sounds like such a fun time. I wish I had a big group of friends to go see it with. We'd laugh and laugh.

[Kevin Hamilton]

As if the audience for Venom and Star is Born are remotely similar so that the latter would give two shits how the former dies.

f***, people are stupid.

[Deleted]

Seeing some people arguing the reason critics don't like it is they just don't understand Venom's character. Which... I really don't get since this movie doesn't seem to either.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Oct 2, 2018 19:31:48 GMT -5 Kevin Hamilton said:

As if the audience for Venom and Star is Born are remotely similar so that the latter would give two shits how the former dies.

f***, people are stupid.

People just believe what they want to believe like it makes any f***ing sense

[Kevin Hamilton]

Venom, at least the Eddie version has barely ever been a character anyway. Big, evil Spider-man. That's his character. Awesome visual, but Bizarro Spider-man is his character. And that's cool, but there's no nuance there to not understand.

[BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps]

All of the bad buzz still has me looking forward to this. It really looks like, if it doesn't un-ironically entertain me, it won't be dull either.

[dreidemy]

A movie about a Spider-Man villain without Spider-Man sucks? I'm shocked I tell you

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

28% on MetaCritic.

28% on Rotten Tomatoes.

And so it begins:

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Oct 2, 2018 21:32:19 GMT -5 Mighty Attack Tribble said:

28% on MetaCritic.

28% on Rotten Tomatoes.

I expect that number to drop further looking through so far. Even most of the positive reviews aren't exactly complimentary.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

Oct 2, 2018 21:35:48 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Oct 2, 2018 21:32:19 GMT -5 Mighty Attack Tribble said:

28% on MetaCritic.

28% on Rotten Tomatoes.

I expect that number to drop further looking through so far. Even most of the positive reviews aren't exactly complimentary.

To be fair, it opened on RT at 19%.

[Deleted]

Tom Hardy seems to be trying to be the first actor to win an Oscar and a Razzie for the same performance.

This sounds kind of magical.

[jjohns828]

Well this seems to confirm my decision to wait and see it when it's streaming somewhere. I wouldn't make a decision only based on review aggregators, but I wasn't impressed by the trailers so it would of needed good reviews to get me to change my mind about whether or not to see it in the theater.

[Kevin Hamilton]

A Cinemark matinee will be like 6 bucks, so I'll give it a look with LOW expectations.

[Fade]

Yeah, I'm catching both this and ASTIS this weekend. Haven't been excited about anything for months now

[Deleted]

Full plot breakdown -

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{Spoiler}The beginning of the movie showed a spaceship which carrying symbiotes fell from the space and landed in Sarawak, Malaysia. Supposed to have 4 symbiotes, but one of them escaped, that's Riot. Riot took over an officer's body and now looking for Life Foundation (Riot's plan was to use Life Foundation's spaceship to transport other symbiotes to invade the earth).

In the other hand, the three symbiotes were used by Drake (the Head of LF) in his human experiment. Drake used living human as test subject and most of them died in the process, also there's one symbiote died because of experiment failure. Eddie Brock, the reporter knew about Drake's inhumane experiment through his lawyer girlfriend, Anne Weying. Eddie tried to prompt Drake about the experiments during the interview, but then he got fired by his news company and Anne got fired because of the confidentiality breach. Anne broke up with Eddie, after 6 months, she got a new doctor boyfriend (he's not a bad guy). Eddie felt like a loser and he can't find a job. A LF scientist, Dora Skirth secretly asked Eddie to investigate LF's experiment, and brought him to the laboratory. One of the hosts (symbiote fused human) saw Eddie and tried to break out from her cell. Eddie recognized the host, she's Maria, a homeless acquintance of him. Eddie tried to help her out, but then Maria attacked Him and transfer the symbiote to him, then she died. Eddie is now fused with Venom and he escaped from the laboratory. Drake was enraged and killed Dora by letting a symbiote bonding with Dora. However, the symbiote died alongside with Dora. Now Drake only left with Venom, his last symbiote. He instructed his taskforce to search for Eddie.

Meanwhile, Eddie tried to understand the 'parasite' within his body. He became extremely strong and agile, and also hungry. Eddie met Anne and told her about his condition. Anne brought him to his doctor boyfriend for some checkup. Eddie found out that the symbiote is afraid of high frequency wave (as he did the MRi scan). While waiting for his report, Eddie went home. Drake's henchmen found Eddie in his apartment. He transformed into Venom and fight all of the bad guys and escape (some epic car chase scenes!). They (Eddie and Venom) escaped to a lighthouse and they talked to each other. Venom likes Eddie because he's a loser too, just like Eddie, so they can get along just fine. Eddie needs Venom's help to pass his phone to his ex-news company boss (evidence and photos he got from LF's laboratory in the beginning).

At night, Venom broke into the office and left his phone on the table. When they were leaving the building, they were surrounded by armed henchmen, ready to open fire. Of course, Venom destroyed them. Anne was on the scene and saw Venom tranformed back into Eddie. Anne was frightened and wanted to leave. Eddie stopped her and explained everything. Anne brought him back to her boyfriend's laboratory, the previous report showed that the symbiote is enhancing his body, but his internal organs are slowing being eaten by the symbiote. Venom denied that as that is a part of stabilizing process. Eddie decided to remove Venom from his body, by activating the MRi scanner. Venom was distrubed by the high frequency wave and separated itself from Eddie. Then, escaped via the vent. Eddie barged out from the hospital and ambushed by Drake's henchmen. Eddie was sedated and being taken away. Venom saw Eddie being abducted by the henchmen from far, but unable to do anything because it didn't have a host. Venom found Anne and fused with her, then proceed to rescue Eddie. Drake met Eddie, again, and he sensed that Eddie lost his symbiote, he asked Eddie about the location of Venom. Drake was able to sense a symbiote because he fused with Riot (Riot flew all the way from Malaysia to United States, hopping from host to host, finally met Drake and decided to cooperate with him to launch a spaceship for his invasion plan). Drake asked his guys to kill Eddie, and he went off to his space station for his launch program. She-Venom arrived the scene and rescued Eddie, kissed him and transfered the symbiote back to Eddie. Venom reached the space station and fought Riot (the camera work is terrible here, Venom vs. Riot, both dark characters fighting in the night, with shaky camera, imagine that). In the end, Riot was killed by Venom by exploding the spaceship. Venom was supposed to be dead (due to the burning and explosion), but later on we found out that he did not died. The movie ended with Eddie Brock getting along with Anne again, and they (Venom and Eddie) decided on hurting bad guys only, then the convenient store scene in the trailer happened. The End

End credit one: Eddie is going to a prison to interview a sociopathic serial killer, Cletus Kassady (as Carnage in the next movie, played by Woody Harrelson), and as the scene ends, he says 'when I leave here, there will be carnage.'

The second end credit scene is just a 5 minutes showcase of Spiderverse, the animated movie.

That already terrible convenience store scene is SO MUCH WORSE in context.

[Tom Turkey]

Anyone else find it funny that

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{Spoiler}the end credits stinger is an extended trailer for a movie featuring a character this movie decided to totally ignore?

[Big DSR Energy]

I'm down for this. I love pre-MCU comic book movies. (Not that I dislike the MCU flicks, though).