Gus Richlen: Ruffian
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Jan 5, 2018 23:23:00 GMT -5
   They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt ever again. I'd rather be dead than be so soul-crushingly cynical as to stick around and give nothing a chance instead of walking away and finding something else that actually makes me happy. The constant negativity anymore is making me consider quitting the board. It really is. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 23:32:03 GMT -5
I'd rather be dead than be so soul-crushingly cynical as to stick around and give nothing a chance instead of walking away and finding something else that actually makes me happy. The constant negativity anymore is making me consider quitting the board. It really is. I remember hearing a theory a few months ago here that Vince McMahon is akin to a drug dealer. His customers hate the product and what it does to them, but still comes back for more, even when Vince short changed them. I am starting to believe this. |
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Jan 5, 2018 23:42:46 GMT -5
I'd rather be dead than be so soul-crushingly cynical as to stick around and give nothing a chance instead of walking away and finding something else that actually makes me happy. The constant negativity anymore is making me consider quitting the board. It really is. There's a reason I don't do the Raw/Smackdown threads anymore. |
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Jan 5, 2018 23:43:04 GMT -5
News report: “They might be doing this” Fanbase: “THEY’RE DEFINITELY DOING THIS, F*** WWE” All. The. Time. Nevermind that it's *absolutely* something that they would do and is being said by someone that's been around long enough to have a better grasp of WWE's general thought process behind their actions than nearly anyone. Like, I get optimism, but acting like people don't have a reason to believe this is ridiculously naive. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 5, 2018 23:46:30 GMT -5
The Bryan case is so strange in that, here is this dude that is universally beloved by fans and they just kept denying making him the focus over and over except when their hand was forced. And even then, they immediately made him less important until it was too late.
They'd kill if Roman was getting the sort of reactions Bryan was from Mania 28-30.
It's just weird, when you've got your paying customers going: "We want THIS." and then go "No."
It's as if Mcdonald's had insisted on the McDLT despite people just wanting Big Macs.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 5, 2018 23:48:27 GMT -5
The benefit of the doubt is something they squandered YEARS ago.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jan 5, 2018 23:51:42 GMT -5
News report: “They might be doing this” Fanbase: “THEY’RE DEFINITELY DOING THIS, F*** WWE” All. The. Time. Nevermind that it's *absolutely* something that they would do and is being said by someone that's been around long enough to have a better grasp of WWE's general thought process behind their actions than nearly anyone. Like, I get optimism, but acting like people don't have a reason to believe this is ridiculously naive. It's just people are taking this speculation, because that's exactly what this news bit is, as indisputable fact. I just can't bring myself to be so relentlessly down on everything, especially before the main part that people are so worried about has even happened, you know? I know they've f***ed up things before, and they'll f*** up things again down the line, but you have to take each thing as it comes before it reaches that point of "They f***ed this up". This angle hasn't reached that point yet. That's all I'm trying to say. |
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Jan 6, 2018 0:58:18 GMT -5
Oh Vince, you’re such a class act 😡
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Jan 6, 2018 1:26:00 GMT -5
The constant negativity anymore is making me consider quitting the board. It really is. I remember hearing a theory a few months ago here that Vince McMahon is akin to a drug dealer. His customers hate the product and what it does to them, but still comes back for more, even when Vince short changed them. I am starting to believe this. That was me, and I still stand by what I said. I've known a few dope fiends in my time (hell, I was kind of one myself), so, I know how the game works, and the people that come on here and complain week after week about the same shit (yet continue to watch every week, hoping for that "fat sack") remind me of the typical addict. Yeah, they'll bitch and complain about how they're getting shorted or overcharged, but most of them will damn sure be back at the dope man's door come pay day, despite talking all that shit. And I know the people I'm referring to will come on and counter about the slowly sinking ratings, maybe even going to the point of breaking out a picture of the falling ratings, but I'm not referring to the Nielsen families that are no longer deciding to watch....I'm referring to YOU (not the person I'm responding to) specifically (and if you're getting red in the face reading this, then, yes, I'm most likely talking about you). The people that you can almost always count on every Monday, Tuesday, or Post ppv coming on here and making the same posts about the same points, as if one more thread about Roman Reigns being overpushed is suddenly going to make Vince McMahon go "My God! He's absolutely right! Fire Roman Reigns and make (insert indie hero) the World Champion....Stat!" It gets old, and it makes me wonder why someone will continue to religiously watch a product that they obvious hate, especially in the age of You Tube, where any moment/great match that would happen to slip by would be on there by the next day, saving that person from watching the entire show just to get to those one or two good/great moments. Vince McMahon knows what you want. He just knows he only has to give it to you sparingly, and most of you will continue to watch/hand your money/time over to his company. Yeah, the ratings may be slowly going down, but WWE is still making money hand over fist, even if it's just selling the nostalgia one can find in droves on the Network. That isn't going to change until at least the moment Vince McMahon and his Yes Men aren't running the main product, and maybe not even then. It's been that way for at least the last decade, and as I just said, that ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE. So, you may as well just watch the segments and wrestlers you want to watch, and not expect more out of the product than what it is (and hasn't been since the turn of the century): a fun distraction and a commercial for the Network. That's it and that's all. You're watching Vince McMahon playing with his toys. You might as well enjoy the occasional "fat sack" he's willing to hand you (AJ as champion, NXT), because you're not going to get anymore than that. No matter how much you beat the same dead horse into the ground every week. Your other option is to....wait for it.....QUIT WATCHING/GIVING VINCE McMAHON YOUR MONEY!!!! |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 6, 2018 1:41:37 GMT -5
The Bryan case is so strange in that, here is this dude that is universally beloved by fans and they just kept denying making him the focus over and over except when their hand was forced. And even then, they immediately made him less important until it was too late. They'd kill if Roman was getting the sort of reactions Bryan was from Mania 28-30. It's just weird, when you've got your paying customers going: "We want THIS." and then go "No." It's as if Mcdonald's had insisted on the McDLT despite people just wanting Big Macs. That's becuase people don't know what they want... THE HOT STAYED HOT AND THE COLD STAYED COLD PEOPLE! That is 100x better than thousand island dressing on a burger. |
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Jan 6, 2018 2:20:53 GMT -5
I won't invest that much energy into this speculation, or should i say Meltzeration. It's plausible and WWE has a track record that is unmatched when it comes to their solution with issues with their talent.
If this whole thing is a swerve and Daniel is cleared, than i still won't put too much faith into it because they'll have way more to deliver than just the swerve itself. Which is probably what they'll have their hat on.
If this is a way to devalue Bryan's overness before he leaves as if it's way to keep their fans from following him, than it's incredibly asinine to even think this. It has been said before, the majority of the fans they are at odds with are the fans that go deep into their wallets to support the machine so they will support who they want to support how they want to support them regardless of WWE's wishes. Us/Those fans are the gifthorse.
Ultimately, it is what it is. Like with Finn being reunited the Club, it will be touch and go until the end of whatever angle will be.
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Post by slaughterama on Jan 6, 2018 2:28:33 GMT -5
It's as if Mcdonald's had insisted on the McDLT despite people just wanting Big Macs. I STILL haven't gone back to McDonald's after they got rid of the McDLT. I loved that styrofoam container. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 6, 2018 2:31:15 GMT -5
The Bryan case is so strange in that, here is this dude that is universally beloved by fans and they just kept denying making him the focus over and over except when their hand was forced. And even then, they immediately made him less important until it was too late. They'd kill if Roman was getting the sort of reactions Bryan was from Mania 28-30. It's just weird, when you've got your paying customers going: "We want THIS." and then go "No." It's as if Mcdonald's had insisted on the McDLT despite people just wanting Big Macs. Yeah, but if a news report came out that said McDonald's was getting rid of the Big Mac, people would at least go, "The f***? What happened?" They'd never go, "That seems right" . Which is a giant problem WWE has. |
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Post by corndog on Jan 6, 2018 2:45:51 GMT -5
Them trying to turn him heel is almost enough to draw me back for a little bit to see the fans shit all over it. I truly hate this company. I really do. If they actually do this I'm going to laugh so hard. But it's probably just going to get me to watch highlights of it on YouTube. |
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Post by Fade on Jan 6, 2018 2:51:25 GMT -5
It's be hilarious if he said outlandish heel things ala
Kurt saying he'd wrestle Jesus only for the crowd
To respond w/ "YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!"
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jan 6, 2018 5:54:25 GMT -5
I will cheer for Shane over Bryan.
I literally, and I am using that word accurately, cannot understand why anyone would think Shane is the bad guy in the current storyline.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jan 6, 2018 7:41:16 GMT -5
I will cheer for Shane over Bryan. I literally, and I am using that word accurately, cannot understand why anyone would think Shane is the bad guy in the current storyline. I think it's people tiring of his TV presence, by way of his constant meddling since the first Styles/Owens feud last year. Even Stephanie hasn't been this involved in things this much in the same time period. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 6, 2018 10:29:35 GMT -5
if that's somehow actually true, the people runnning WWE are even bigger marks than the youngest of their fanbase.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 6, 2018 11:03:28 GMT -5
I will cheer for Shane over Bryan. I literally, and I am using that word accurately, cannot understand why anyone would think Shane is the bad guy in the current storyline. To a lot of people he comes off as horribly unsympathetic as a babyface, has a last name that people are tired of in main event stories, is himself in particular someone people are tired of as a focal point of Smackdown when one of the main selling points in the brand split had people believing that Smackdown would be a show more about the wrestlers than the authority figure drama on Raw, and a lot of the Shane/Owens storyline around last month had to do with the brand loyalty nonsense that so many people just can't possibly give any amount of f***s about, which is bound to turn people off from the story on the whole. Turning the most beloved and over star WWE's been able to make this decade heel to serve the narrative of strong babyface Shane isn't going to do any favours to that. |
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Post by Dub H on Jan 6, 2018 11:24:54 GMT -5
I'd rather be dead than be so soul-crushingly cynical as to stick around and give nothing a chance instead of walking away and finding something else that actually makes me happy. The constant negativity anymore is making me consider quitting the board. It really is. Not the negativity,but some that combined with some really bad attituded,I agree. I already stopped watching WWE basically, i'm just in here to HAVE FUN ,MAGGLE, and talk wrassling.I agree that it is better to walk away than just cynically keep watching. |
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