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Post by AwamoriRock on Jan 25, 2018 5:10:21 GMT -5
People like the taste and and the feeling it can provide, whether as a social lubricant or just something to take the edge off. As for outlawing things you don't like...well, just remember how that last thread on that went. So you've pretty much admitted what I've thought for years...people only drink for the drug effects of alcohol. Thanks for proving my point I guess. And that would leave me without a job and 99% of my social life, so no thanks. Why do you need alcohol for a social life? Outside of local brews: tried one in Memphis called Ghost River I really liked. Also Flying Saucer, my favorite name brand is currently Blue Moon. Maybe it's the oranges. Don't judge me. Beer is an acquired taste, and as has been mentioned, there are different tastes to try No one HAS to get smashed to like beer, but sitting around with some friends, havin wings or pizza while watchin a fight or ballgame f***in rulesAnd you can't do that with non-alcoholic beverages why? Outside of you completely ignoring my point about people liking the taste, and this ridiculous straw man of not being able to construct a social life without alcohol, then yeah, I suppose I proved your bizarre point of...what? Being a sheltered jerk who wants to ban things he doesn’t like or partake in? Seriously, people can maturely enjoy booze and appreciate it for entirely different reasons that don’t appeal to you but are still fine. If you honestly think people only drink for the “drug effect”...after having otherwise explained to you? You know as little about booze as you do sex, and it’s getting to be pretty clear that those are just symptoms of knowing little about people in general. Drop your straw man of people “not being able to do things without alcohol” and learn that people like to do things...and also like alcohol.
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Post by Kyn on Jan 25, 2018 5:14:11 GMT -5
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 25, 2018 5:35:51 GMT -5
Light-to-moderate alcohol intake has also been shown in cases to reduce blood pressure, raise HDL ("good" cholesterol), reduce stress, and cut the risk of diabetes.
Heavy drinking is clearly disastrous for one's health, but there's plenty of evidence that a drink every now and then can be beneficial.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jan 25, 2018 5:54:02 GMT -5
Besides the point, as someone who has and will continue to drink a lot and get wasted.. so what? That's my body and my choice.
I go out, drink loads, have a damn good time and come home, don't hurt anyone, don't bother anyone, in fact make a lot of new friends that way.
If someone drinks and does something bad fine, but there are already laws against those activities. Get in a fight? That's illegal. Damage property? That's illegal etc.
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Post by ShaolinHandLock on Jan 25, 2018 6:03:41 GMT -5
So you've pretty much admitted what I've thought for years...people only drink for the drug effects of alcohol. Thanks for proving my point I guess. By that rationale people should be getting wasted every time they drink alcohol. They don't. I drink alcohol almost exclusively because a particular wine or cider pairs well with a particular meal. If a non-alcoholic beverage similarly enhances a different meal, I'll pick accordingly. The "drug effects" are of no consideration to me, and I've only been drunk once this decade.See, that's the thing I don't understand. If the effects of alcohol have no consideration, why not drink the non-alcoholic version instead? I seriously don't understand at all. So you've pretty much admitted what I've thought for years...people only drink for the drug effects of alcohol. Thanks for proving my point I guess. Why do you need alcohol for a social life? And you can't do that with non-alcoholic beverages why? Outside of you completely ignoring my point about people liking the taste, and this ridiculous straw man of not being able to construct a social life without alcohol, then yeah, I suppose I proved your bizarre point of...what? Being a sheltered jerk who wants to ban things he doesn’t like or partake in?Seriously, people can maturely enjoy booze and appreciate it for entirely different reasons that don’t appeal to you but are still fine. If you honestly think people only drink for the “drug effect”...after having otherwise explained to you? You know as little about booze as you do sex, and it’s getting to be pretty clear that those are just symptoms of knowing little about people in general.Drop your straw man of people “not being able to do things without alcohol” and learn that people like to do things...and also like alcohol. Firstly, I don't want to ban anything. I just want to understand why people drink alcohol. I've never fully understood why people do, and I probably never will. And you also resort to calling me a 'sheltered jerk'? You're lucky I don't fly off the handle and say something I'll regret. Secondly, no, I still don't understand why people would drink alcohol if not for the effects of alcohol. If it wasn't for the alcoholic effects, then why not just drink the non-alcoholic version of the same thing? I've never understood any of it. Also this part of your post: Firstly, as I've attempted to make VERY clear multiple times, that sex thread was purely hyperbolic and not meant to be literal. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY OWN PERSONAL THOUGHTS, FEELINGS OR VIEWS ON SEX. And secondly, I'll fully admit that I don't understand people at all. People make zero sense in general, and I'll probably never completely understand how or why people do things...so if that was meant to be an insult, you've failed. I swear, I can't stand this forum or anybody on it anymore. I'M DONE.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jan 25, 2018 6:38:12 GMT -5
Beer smells super gross, so I don't even want to imagine what it tastes like. Personally, if I were a drinker I'd probably drink the fruity stuff. Not cause they are "girly", cause I like fruity flavours. Beers outside of the standard American Lagers can have various fruit flavors, its about finding your tastes. Most Ales with pronounced esters have a wide array of flavors, apricot, bubblegum, marmalade, pine, floral... Name it. The IPA boom in North America over the past decade or so has made the "girly" flavors pretty desirable. if you want to get more exotic. Beers like Gose, Lambic and Geueze have sour fruit taste and are becoming increasingly popular.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 25, 2018 6:45:11 GMT -5
By that rationale people should be getting wasted every time they drink alcohol. They don't. I drink alcohol almost exclusively because a particular wine or cider pairs well with a particular meal. If a non-alcoholic beverage similarly enhances a different meal, I'll pick accordingly. The "drug effects" are of no consideration to me, and I've only been drunk once this decade.See, that's the thing I don't understand. If the effects of alcohol have no consideration, why not drink the non-alcoholic version instead? I seriously don't understand at all. Alcohol can compliment and enhance the flavour profiles, texture and general "mouth feel" of the food when paired with the right meal, and vice-versa. Sometimes you can get a similar result with non-alcoholic drinks, other times not.
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Post by Kyn on Jan 25, 2018 7:35:40 GMT -5
By that rationale people should be getting wasted every time they drink alcohol. They don't. (...) The "drug effects" are of no consideration to me, and I've only been drunk once this decade.See, that's the thing I don't understand. If the effects of alcohol have no consideration, why not drink the non-alcoholic version instead? I seriously don't understand at all. Are you even trying? People have provided clear explanations, and you're ignoring them. Also this part of your post: And secondly, I'll fully admit that I don't understand people at all. People make zero sense in general, and I'll probably never completely understand how or why people do things...so if that was meant to be an insult, you've failed. I swear, I can't stand this forum or anybody on it anymore. I'M DONE. If it was meant to be an insult apparently they didn't fail, if you're ragequitting.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Jan 25, 2018 7:37:34 GMT -5
By that rationale people should be getting wasted every time they drink alcohol. They don't. I drink alcohol almost exclusively because a particular wine or cider pairs well with a particular meal. If a non-alcoholic beverage similarly enhances a different meal, I'll pick accordingly. The "drug effects" are of no consideration to me, and I've only been drunk once this decade.See, that's the thing I don't understand. If the effects of alcohol have no consideration, why not drink the non-alcoholic version instead? I seriously don't understand at all. Outside of you completely ignoring my point about people liking the taste, and this ridiculous straw man of not being able to construct a social life without alcohol, then yeah, I suppose I proved your bizarre point of...what? Being a sheltered jerk who wants to ban things he doesn’t like or partake in?Seriously, people can maturely enjoy booze and appreciate it for entirely different reasons that don’t appeal to you but are still fine. If you honestly think people only drink for the “drug effect”...after having otherwise explained to you? You know as little about booze as you do sex, and it’s getting to be pretty clear that those are just symptoms of knowing little about people in general.Drop your straw man of people “not being able to do things without alcohol” and learn that people like to do things...and also like alcohol. Firstly, I don't want to ban anything. I just want to understand why people drink alcohol. I've never fully understood why people do, and I probably never will. And you also resort to calling me a 'sheltered jerk'? You're lucky I don't fly off the handle and say something I'll regret. Secondly, no, I still don't understand why people would drink alcohol if not for the effects of alcohol. If it wasn't for the alcoholic effects, then why not just drink the non-alcoholic version of the same thing? I've never understood any of it. Also this part of your post: Firstly, as I've attempted to make VERY clear multiple times, that sex thread was purely hyperbolic and not meant to be literal. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY OWN PERSONAL THOUGHTS, FEELINGS OR VIEWS ON SEX. And secondly, I'll fully admit that I don't understand people at all. People make zero sense in general, and I'll probably never completely understand how or why people do things...so if that was meant to be an insult, you've failed. I swear, I can't stand this forum or anybody on it anymore. I'M DONE. So you’re just making up arguments to whine against, and the idea that something that doesn’t appeal to you could appeal to anyone else, even when considering personal preference, is silly. Thanks for proving my point. Shut in jerk.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 25, 2018 7:45:10 GMT -5
In the words of Mick Jagger: Everybody, just cool out.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 25, 2018 7:56:58 GMT -5
So anyone else like me a stout/porter guy?
To add to my taste, I don’t really like IPA’s all too much and I loathe blue moon. BUT to my surprise and I sometimes get shit for it for being girly, I absolutely love Bluepoint Blueberry Ale
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Post by Kyn on Jan 25, 2018 7:58:51 GMT -5
Back on topic, OP (sorry, I don't know how to tag people), do your tastes in general range more towards sweet/salty/savoury? Maybe people can give you some recommendations based on the flavours you prefer.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 8:41:33 GMT -5
I can't help but appreciate that the alcohol thread featured an argument that came out of nowhere and escalated really quickly just like it does with barstool heroes.
Now I need a drink...
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jan 25, 2018 8:44:45 GMT -5
So anyone else like me a stout/porter guy? To add to my taste, I don’t really like IPA’s all too much and I loathe blue moon. BUT to my surprise and I sometimes get shit for it for being girly, I absolutely love Bluepoint Blueberry Ale It's seasonal with me. A high alcohol Russian imperial stout or a Porter with vanilla or coffee notes is great when it's chillingly cold, snowy and general winter weather.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Jan 25, 2018 8:45:34 GMT -5
By that rationale people should be getting wasted every time they drink alcohol. They don't. I drink alcohol almost exclusively because a particular wine or cider pairs well with a particular meal. If a non-alcoholic beverage similarly enhances a different meal, I'll pick accordingly. The "drug effects" are of no consideration to me, and I've only been drunk once this decade.See, that's the thing I don't understand. If the effects of alcohol have no consideration, why not drink the non-alcoholic version instead? I seriously don't understand at all. Outside of you completely ignoring my point about people liking the taste, and this ridiculous straw man of not being able to construct a social life without alcohol, then yeah, I suppose I proved your bizarre point of...what? Being a sheltered jerk who wants to ban things he doesn’t like or partake in?Seriously, people can maturely enjoy booze and appreciate it for entirely different reasons that don’t appeal to you but are still fine. If you honestly think people only drink for the “drug effect”...after having otherwise explained to you? You know as little about booze as you do sex, and it’s getting to be pretty clear that those are just symptoms of knowing little about people in general.Drop your straw man of people “not being able to do things without alcohol” and learn that people like to do things...and also like alcohol. Firstly, I don't want to ban anything. I just want to understand why people drink alcohol. I've never fully understood why people do, and I probably never will. And you also resort to calling me a 'sheltered jerk'? You're lucky I don't fly off the handle and say something I'll regret. Secondly, no, I still don't understand why people would drink alcohol if not for the effects of alcohol. If it wasn't for the alcoholic effects, then why not just drink the non-alcoholic version of the same thing? I've never understood any of it. Also this part of your post: Firstly, as I've attempted to make VERY clear multiple times, that sex thread was purely hyperbolic and not meant to be literal. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY OWN PERSONAL THOUGHTS, FEELINGS OR VIEWS ON SEX. And secondly, I'll fully admit that I don't understand people at all. People make zero sense in general, and I'll probably never completely understand how or why people do things...so if that was meant to be an insult, you've failed. I swear, I can't stand this forum or anybody on it anymore. I'M DONE. Have a beer, buddy!
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 25, 2018 8:46:49 GMT -5
I will say I'm interested in trying some of these stouts people mentioned. A rich, flavorful beer sounds like it'd be up my alley.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jan 25, 2018 8:51:40 GMT -5
I will say I'm interested in trying some of these stouts people mentioned. A rich, flavorful beer sounds like it'd be up my alley. Beers run the spectrum of flavors. Rich porters can give you so many flavors from vanilla to coffee to bourbon to tobacco. There's also varieties of these. So many people think stout they think Guinness which is the Irish style "dry stout" served on nitrogen. Most porters and stouts are just loaded with deep and complex flavors.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Jan 25, 2018 8:54:08 GMT -5
I love making beer, drinking beer and talking about beer in that order.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jan 25, 2018 9:40:17 GMT -5
So anyone else like me a stout/porter guy? To add to my taste, I don’t really like IPA’s all too much and I loathe blue moon. BUT to my surprise and I sometimes get shit for it for being girly, I absolutely love Bluepoint Blueberry Ale It's seasonal with me. A high alcohol Russian imperial stout or a Porter with vanilla or coffee notes is great when it's chillingly cold, snowy and general winter weather. Oh man, I love me some of this guy right here I have also definitely cooled off a little bit on IPAs. For awhile it was all I drank and it seemed liked it just started to be a competition of who could get their beer the hoppiest after awhile and the flavors just became completely uninteresting.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 25, 2018 10:07:39 GMT -5
People like the taste and and the feeling it can provide, whether as a social lubricant or just something to take the edge off. As for outlawing things you don't like...well, just remember how that last thread on that went. So you've pretty much admitted what I've thought for years...people only drink for the drug effects of alcohol. Thanks for proving my point I guess. And that would leave me without a job and 99% of my social life, so no thanks. Why do you need alcohol for a social life? Outside of local brews: tried one in Memphis called Ghost River I really liked. Also Flying Saucer, my favorite name brand is currently Blue Moon. Maybe it's the oranges. Don't judge me. Beer is an acquired taste, and as has been mentioned, there are different tastes to try No one HAS to get smashed to like beer, but sitting around with some friends, havin wings or pizza while watchin a fight or ballgame f***in rulesAnd you can't do that with non-alcoholic beverages why? Never said you couldn't chief. I like beer. If I want to have a beer or two with a meal, I'm a responsible 39 yr old man; I will have it. Don't like beer, don't drink the shit. Simple.
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