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Post by Dub H on May 23, 2018 18:01:39 GMT -5
So Vince starts to be more involved/micromanage more with SD! and therefore becomes worse? He's already got his hands in SDL tbh. People just put the blame on Road Dogg when Vince is just as active. The easiest way to do this is to just end the bloody brand split. They can still have two touring groups for house shows, they don't need a brand split on TV especially when they're unwilling to do anything to differentiate the two brands. Between 5 hours of TV they can fit most guys on at least one of the shows each week, if they create a few big stables they can have people at least get some screen time constantly even if they're not doing much. Or at least have a few more guys that are "free agents" Smackdown needs Brock Lesnar or Rhonda Rousey showing up from time to time if it has any hope of doing well on Fox. That's how it should be done but we all know how this company sadly works lol. I know he has final say and overview but very likely he doesnt micromanage as he does with RAW |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 18:48:17 GMT -5
He's already got his hands in SDL tbh. People just put the blame on Road Dogg when Vince is just as active. That's how it should be done but we all know how this company sadly works lol. I know he has final say and overview but very likely he doesnt micromanage as he does with RAW Nah, Meltzer said this a while back He's got as much control over SDL as he does Raw. He's just putting most of his effort on Raw and now he'll switch sides. |
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Post by Dub H on May 23, 2018 20:37:24 GMT -5
I know he has final say and overview but very likely he doesnt micromanage as he does with RAW Nah, Meltzer said this a while back He's got as much control over SDL as he does Raw. He's just putting most of his effort on Raw and now he'll switch sides. I`m not disagreeing with anything there. But i dont think Vince micromanages SD! as he is stated to do with RAW. SD! was always a side thing for him. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 21:11:10 GMT -5
Nah, Meltzer said this a while back He's got as much control over SDL as he does Raw. He's just putting most of his effort on Raw and now he'll switch sides. I`m not disagreeing with anything there. But i dont think Vince micromanages SD! as he is stated to do with RAW. SD! was always a side thing for him. You're literally disagreeing with what Meltzer says here. He said Vince is hands on with both shows and has 100 percent control over both shows. Vince not micromanaging SDL goes against what he's saying because that's not 100 percent control. It isn't a side thing. It's just how Vince books. He just doesn't book them equally. It's not because he doesn't consider SDL a real project, he just didn't see it was having their biggest assets. It's like if I were in charge of two classrooms, one for 12th graders and the other for 3rd graders. I'm focusing the more difficult plans for the 12th graders. It doesn't mean that the 3rd graders are a side project. It's just different planning. In Vince's case he booked Raw as the main event as he booked SDL as the undercard. |
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Post by Dub H on May 23, 2018 21:38:09 GMT -5
I`m not disagreeing with anything there. But i dont think Vince micromanages SD! as he is stated to do with RAW. SD! was always a side thing for him. You're literally disagreeing with what Meltzer says here. He said Vince is hands on with both shows and has 100 percent control over both shows. Vince not micromanaging SDL goes against what he's saying because that's not 100 percent control. It isn't a side thing. It's just how Vince books. He just doesn't book them equally. It's not because he doesn't consider SDL a real project, he just didn't see it was having their biggest assets. It's like if I were in charge of two classrooms, one for 12th graders and the other for 3rd graders. I'm focusing the more difficult plans for the 12th graders. It doesn't mean that the 3rd graders are a side project. It's just different planning. In Vince's case he booked Raw as the main event as he booked SDL as the undercard. No i`m not.Having control doesn`t mean he is not more involved with one than the other. I know he wants both to succeded but 70% of his attention is always on RAW.Which might change if he takes this FOX deal very seriously.Roles could be reversed But people assumed taht with SD! Changes and very different booking/pushes that Vince was 0% involved and had no current control over it. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2018 21:51:04 GMT -5
You're literally disagreeing with what Meltzer says here. He said Vince is hands on with both shows and has 100 percent control over both shows. Vince not micromanaging SDL goes against what he's saying because that's not 100 percent control. It isn't a side thing. It's just how Vince books. He just doesn't book them equally. It's not because he doesn't consider SDL a real project, he just didn't see it was having their biggest assets. It's like if I were in charge of two classrooms, one for 12th graders and the other for 3rd graders. I'm focusing the more difficult plans for the 12th graders. It doesn't mean that the 3rd graders are a side project. It's just different planning. In Vince's case he booked Raw as the main event as he booked SDL as the undercard. No i`m not.Having control doesn`t mean he is not more involved with one than the other. I know he wants both to succeded but 70% of his attention is always on RAW.Which might change if he takes this FOX deal very seriously.Roles could be reversed But people assumed taht with SD! Changes and very different booking/pushes that Vince was 0% involved and had no current control over it. This is false and Meltzer's comment was directly in response to people assuming that he's more hands-on with Raw than SDL. I don't know why you think this or where it comes from but this isn't true by any means. Vince's attention is on both shows equally. The difference is, since the brand split happened again a few years ago, Vince was trying to make both shows as different as possible hence why one was better than the other but with that said make no mistake, he's not spending more time on Raw than SDL. That's a bad myth going around so Meltzer had to make comments on it. He's always backstage SDL, he's just as hand's on with it than Raw but his vision for SDL differs which is why my reference to me controlling 2 classrooms come from.
It's some bad fan myth that Vince isn't as hand's on with SDL as he is Raw. It's not true.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on May 30, 2018 9:19:11 GMT -5
www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/wrestling-rights-shakeup-fox-nabs-wwe-espn-signs-ufc-nbc-gets-raw-1115156More accurate numbers have it as such... RAW on USA: $265 million per year ($1.325 billion over five years) SDL on FOX: $205 million per year ($1.025 billion over five years) Keep in mind that right now, USA pays $130 million per year for BOTH shows. WWE have absolutely found the pots of gold at the end of the rainbow here. Also of note... FOX pitching a “weekly studio show” on FS1 as part of the deal. Of all the damndest things to happen, Talking Smack on FS1 is a possibility.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 10:25:56 GMT -5
So over 2 billion over the next 5 years. For whatever reason, this makes me picture jim cornettes head exploding
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 11:08:58 GMT -5
Looking at those numbers, I think I am the one out of touch rather than Vince. How any sane company views the WWE to be worth that much is insane but then again they get 2.5 million viewers to watch a 3 hour show that is written for an audience of one, so clearly I am missing something.
Life sucks and then you die. Maybe Vince was right all along. He can make a billion off a variety show. Smh.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 30, 2018 11:58:09 GMT -5
On a side note, Disney and Fox’s shareholders are having a vote on July 10th about their offer so presumably, unless Comcast give their offer in before then, we’re probably expecting the first payments of it by October 2019.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on May 30, 2018 11:59:49 GMT -5
Dammmmmn, they making some paper off this deal.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on May 30, 2018 12:01:19 GMT -5
www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/wrestling-rights-shakeup-fox-nabs-wwe-espn-signs-ufc-nbc-gets-raw-1115156More accurate numbers have it as such... RAW on USA: $265 million per year ($1.325 billion over five years) SDL on FOX: $205 million per year ($1.025 billion over five years) Keep in mind that right now, USA pays $130 million per year for BOTH shows. WWE have absolutely found the pots of gold at the end of the rainbow here. Also of note... FOX pitching a “weekly studio show” on FS1 as part of the deal. Of all the damndest things to happen, Talking Smack on FS1 is a possibility. Sweet jesus, that's a ton of money. I may dislike the booking at times, but this whole "the company is in trouble!" narrative that some have is.....wrong. |
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 30, 2018 13:14:29 GMT -5
www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/wrestling-rights-shakeup-fox-nabs-wwe-espn-signs-ufc-nbc-gets-raw-1115156More accurate numbers have it as such... RAW on USA: $265 million per year ($1.325 billion over five years) SDL on FOX: $205 million per year ($1.025 billion over five years) Keep in mind that right now, USA pays $130 million per year for BOTH shows. WWE have absolutely found the pots of gold at the end of the rainbow here. Also of note... FOX pitching a “weekly studio show” on FS1 as part of the deal. Of all the damndest things to happen, Talking Smack on FS1 is a possibility. Sweet jesus, that's a ton of money. I may dislike the booking at times, but this whole "the company is in trouble!" narrative that some have is.....wrong. No kidding. It's ridiculous when I hear fans talking about All In, New Japan or (lol) Lucha Underground nipping at WWE's heels. Dude, WWE's heels are in space and everyone else is just breaking out of the dirt. |
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Post by Chainsaw on May 30, 2018 13:23:30 GMT -5
Shows like The Real Housewives of [INSERT CITY NAME HERE] brings in a ton of money, too, that doesn't mean I'm clamoring to watch it regularly.
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Post by trollrogue on May 30, 2018 23:37:02 GMT -5
www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/wrestling-rights-shakeup-fox-nabs-wwe-espn-signs-ufc-nbc-gets-raw-1115156More accurate numbers have it as such... RAW on USA: $265 million per year ($1.325 billion over five years) SDL on FOX: $205 million per year ($1.025 billion over five years) Keep in mind that right now, USA pays $130 million per year for BOTH shows. WWE have absolutely found the pots of gold at the end of the rainbow here. Also of note... FOX pitching a “weekly studio show” on FS1 as part of the deal. Of all the damndest things to happen, Talking Smack on FS1 is a possibility. Ut oh... methinks in a year FOX will have fully bought the licensing rights to the "Renee Young" character-- or hell they'll end up using her real last name as a FOX sports analyst getting paid 5 times as much as WWE has been. But hopefully she will do it after creating a new home for Talking Smack on FS1, and blows every other show on that network out of the water in whatever viewing metrics they utilize. I know I'd watch it after every FOX SDLive episode faithfully, and probably all the WWE Network subscribers that were burned at it's cancellation would too-- at least 1M viewers right there boyee. |
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Post by Ryushinku on May 31, 2018 4:08:05 GMT -5
Just because it's always my favourite of the Vince with money gifs:  |
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Post by The Barber on Jun 1, 2018 6:54:21 GMT -5
Looking at those numbers, I think I am the one out of touch rather than Vince. How any sane company views the WWE to be worth that much is insane but then again they get 2.5 million viewers to watch a 3 hour show that is written for an audience of one, so clearly I am missing something. Life sucks and then you die. Maybe Vince was right all along. He can make a billion off a variety show. Smh. He is one lucky sumbitch, I'll give him that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 13:21:53 GMT -5
Speaking as a fan who digs the product, this is really exciting news.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Sept 15, 2018 7:52:23 GMT -5
October 4th, 2019 is the date.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 8:46:34 GMT -5
October 4th, 2019 is the date. And NXT have their monster heel signed too |
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