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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 10, 2018 19:11:09 GMT -5
For what it's worth, Colt and Punk's trainer Ace Steel retweeted Lou D'Angeli's post shitting on Cabana. It appears Ace is on Punk's side. Lol even Colt's close friends like Ace and Cliff Compton are turning on him. There's probably something more to the story that has people on the know turning on Cabana. Or it's the aforementioned cult-like mentality Punk has controlling his inner-circle. Cult?? He's not Paul Heyman, he's not likeable, he's actually an asshole. What is he giving them money or something that I'm not aware of? You keep acting like Cabana is completely innocent of everything, I don't know if he is or not, but two of his closest friends just turned on him, there's more to this story.
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Post by Push R Truth on Aug 10, 2018 19:13:33 GMT -5
I just think everybody involved here is an asshole. That's the simplest answer I can think of.
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Post by chazraps on Aug 10, 2018 19:23:23 GMT -5
Or it's the aforementioned cult-like mentality Punk has controlling his inner-circle. Cult?? He's not Paul Heyman, he's not likeable, he's actually an asshole. What is he giving them money or something that I'm not aware of? You keep acting like Cabana is completely innocent of everything, I don't know if he is or not, but two of his closest friends just turned on him, there's more to this story. Dude, he is plenty likable. You don't get to that level he's at and have the devotion of people surrounding him without being likable. Some people are just expert gaslighting manipulators. Punk's become the worst parts of Heyman and Dixie.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 10, 2018 19:28:28 GMT -5
I'm only an armchair psychologist... but Punk seems more Narcissistic than Sociopathic. (especially since Sociopaths are not a thing in psychology anymore) I studied about 6 years of Psych but it was a while ago now, there's been at least 1 DSM since, is sociopathy no longer a recognised thing? That said I know the latest DSM made a number of contentious removals, so... My main point for the sociopathy was the antisocial behaviour, the manipulative/false trust, and narcissism can come packaged in with it as I understand. But again it's been a long, long time since I did any psychological reading. Whatever the case, Punk definitely has some isues. I remember someone telling me the sociopathy wasn't really a thing and itw as a bunch of other disorders or something. but like I said I'm not a psychologist... I just play one on the internet!
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 10, 2018 19:43:05 GMT -5
Cult?? He's not Paul Heyman, he's not likeable, he's actually an asshole. What is he giving them money or something that I'm not aware of? You keep acting like Cabana is completely innocent of everything, I don't know if he is or not, but two of his closest friends just turned on him, there's more to this story. Dude, he is plenty likable. You don't get to that level he's at and have the devotion of people surrounding him without being likable. Some people are just expert gaslighting manipulators. Punk's become the worst parts of Heyman and Dixie. Just stop it. Paul Heyman stole money and bounced checks. Because of him Candido and Sunny lost their home, Dreamer lost a lot of shit and wasn't paid in six months. Dixie Carter promised Jesse Sorensen's mom that she would take care of him. She didn't and Jesse's mom had to close her restaurant because of the medical bills. Or let's not forget how Dixie treated Daffney or Nigel. Punk saved Joey Mercury from losing his house. Punk also never bounced a check or failed to pay anyone. Punk's only crime is being an asshole. Cutting off people from your life is not a crime. If he or Cabana is on the wrong only time will tell. But you don't get to compare Punk with monsters just because you don't like him.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 10, 2018 19:45:40 GMT -5
Dude, he is plenty likable. You don't get to that level he's at and have the devotion of people surrounding him without being likable. Some people are just expert gaslighting manipulators. Punk's become the worst parts of Heyman and Dixie. Just stop it. Paul Heyman stole money and bounced checks. Because of him Candido and Sunny lost their home, Dreamer lost a lot of shit and wasn't paid in six months. Dixie Carter promised Jesse Sorensen's mom that she would take care of him. She didn't and Jesse's mom had to close her restaurant because of the medical bills. Or let's not forget how Dixie treated Daffney or Nigel. Punk saved Joey Mercury from losing his house. Punk also never bounced a check or failed to pay anyone. Punk's only crime is being an asshole. Cutting off people from your life is not a crime. If he or Cabana is on the wrong only time will tell. But you don't get to compare Punk with monsters just because you don't like him. Well that's literally what this lawsuit is over.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 10, 2018 19:48:46 GMT -5
Just stop it. Paul Heyman stole money and bounced checks. Because of him Candido and Sunny lost their home, Dreamer lost a lot of shit and wasn't paid in six months. Dixie Carter promised Jesse Sorensen's mom that she would take care of him. She didn't and Jesse's mom had to close her restaurant because of the medical bills. Or let's not forget how Dixie treated Daffney or Nigel. Punk saved Joey Mercury from losing his house. Punk also never bounced a check or failed to pay anyone. Punk's only crime is being an asshole. Cutting off people from your life is not a crime. If he or Cabana is on the wrong only time will tell. But you don't get to compare Punk with monsters just because you don't like him. Well that's literally what this lawsuit is over. Well allegedly so far...ok he hasn't bounced a check yet that I know off.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 10, 2018 19:49:34 GMT -5
Well that's literally what this lawsuit is over. Well allegedly so far...ok he hasn't bounced a check yet that I know off. Haha we'd hafta check with his local corner marts on that one.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 10, 2018 19:53:25 GMT -5
Well allegedly so far...ok he hasn't bounced a check yet that I know off. Haha we'd hafta check with his local corner marts on that one. To be fair, he was outta Pepsi, and payday wasn't till Friday.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 10, 2018 19:54:32 GMT -5
Well allegedly so far...ok he hasn't bounced a check yet that I know off. Haha we'd hafta check with his local corner marts on that one. Well after all he's a student of Paul Heyman... "Allow me another volley if I may sir, the best excuse is to say that the checks where on another flight and thereby that's why I can't give them to you."
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Post by Fade on Aug 10, 2018 19:59:13 GMT -5
I wonder if Punks gonna pull out of that autograph thing during All In weekend.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 20:06:45 GMT -5
I wonder if Punks gonna pull out of that autograph thing during All In weekend. Gonna be some interesting reports around then that's for sure.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 10, 2018 20:11:28 GMT -5
I wonder if Punks gonna pull out of that autograph thing during All In weekend. Gonna be some interesting reports around then that's for sure. Fans and wrestling personalities with bias to either are going to be flooding newz to put over their favorite and talk shit about the other. You know how when parents split up and the shit flies and most of it is BS? This is that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 20:14:30 GMT -5
Gonna be some interesting reports around then that's for sure. Fans and wrestling personalities with bias to either are going to be flooding newz to put over their favorite and talk shit about the other. You know how when parents split up and the shit flies and most of it is BS? This is that. Imagine someone showing up at the signing and from the line they take a picture of Punk with a scowl on his face. Next thing you know they're on social media saying "took a pic of Punk, he's pissed about Colt and you can see it on his face, a fight's gonna happen here!! #AllIn #PunksALLOUTwithColt #Bestintheworld #Lawyers #Chicagomademan"
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 10, 2018 20:42:40 GMT -5
For what it's worth, Colt and Punk's trainer Ace Steel retweeted Lou D'Angeli's post shitting on Cabana. It appears Ace is on Punk's side. Lol even Colt's close friends like Ace and Cliff Compton are turning on him. There's probably something more to the story that has people on the know turning on Cabana. I could see it being a few things: either Colt did something really vile that turned everyone against him, or its the feeling that running to the courts is a "bitch move", or they are afraid that if Punk was willing to cut off his best friend, he wouldn't hesitate to cut them off as well. I'm sure it will all come out at some point, but for everyone's sake I hope it gets settled soon. Colt: "Man, Pepsi sucks, Coke is better. Also, Walking Dead is boring 95% of the time."
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Post by bitteroldman on Aug 10, 2018 20:42:46 GMT -5
I'm only an armchair psychologist... but Punk seems more Narcissistic than Sociopathic. (especially since Sociopaths are not a thing in psychology anymore) I studied about 6 years of Psych but it was a while ago now, there's been at least 1 DSM since, is sociopathy no longer a recognised thing? That said I know the latest DSM made a number of contentious removals, so... My main point for the sociopathy was the antisocial behaviour, the manipulative/false trust, and narcissism can come packaged in with it as I understand. But again it's been a long, long time since I did any psychological reading. Whatever the case, Punk definitely has some isues. DSM-5 has Antisocial Personality Disorder, "Those with APD often possess an impaired moral conscience and make decisions driven purely by their own desires without considering the needs or negative effects of their actions on others".
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Post by lionheart21 on Aug 10, 2018 20:56:19 GMT -5
Or it's the aforementioned cult-like mentality Punk has controlling his inner-circle. Cult?? He's not Paul Heyman, he's not likeable, he's actually an asshole. What is he giving them money or something that I'm not aware of? You keep acting like Cabana is completely innocent of everything, I don't know if he is or not, but two of his closest friends just turned on him, there's more to this story. Or it could be that they're doing this so as not to have Punk turn against them as well
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Post by chazraps on Aug 10, 2018 21:45:54 GMT -5
Dude, he is plenty likable. You don't get to that level he's at and have the devotion of people surrounding him without being likable. Some people are just expert gaslighting manipulators. Punk's become the worst parts of Heyman and Dixie. Just stop it. Paul Heyman stole money and bounced checks. Because of him Candido and Sunny lost their home, Dreamer lost a lot of shit and wasn't paid in six months. Dixie Carter promised Jesse Sorensen's mom that she would take care of him. She didn't and Jesse's mom had to close her restaurant because of the medical bills. Or let's not forget how Dixie treated Daffney or Nigel. Punk saved Joey Mercury from losing his house. Punk also never bounced a check or failed to pay anyone. Punk's only crime is being an asshole. Cutting off people from your life is not a crime. If he or Cabana is on the wrong only time will tell. But you don't get to compare Punk with monsters just because you don't like him. No, dude, you're missing the point. That gaslighting manipulative deliberate deception and demanding unquestioning loyalty is what Punk has in common with the others mentioned. I liked Punk prior to this, but that doesn'y mean I can't call an insecure paranoid odd duck when I see one. Just because Punk's done it on a much smaller scale than having a full-fledged business about it doesn't make him any less guilty of manipulation. Unprovoked ghosting and demanding people fall in line with your way of thinking is abuse. Punk doing this to Colt, in text saying he was going to cover any expenses as long as Colt followed his lead, and then pulling out is a Heyman/Dixie move.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 10, 2018 21:52:28 GMT -5
Or it's the aforementioned cult-like mentality Punk has controlling his inner-circle. Cult?? He's not Paul Heyman, he's not likeable, he's actually an asshole. What is he giving them money or something that I'm not aware of? You keep acting like Cabana is completely innocent of everything, I don't know if he is or not, but two of his closest friends just turned on him, there's more to this story. Na, I woudn't say he's not likeable as dude has a good side with the Joey Mercury story and Darren Young told the story about him after he came out on TMZ, after his match or Punk match I forget but Punk ran up to him and gave him a hug and said he was brave and he got his back
Punk is one of those people where if you are in his inner circle you're good with him as you probably see the "vulnerable side" other people don't but when he feels like you wronged him you are cut the f*** off
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Post by BatPunk on Aug 10, 2018 22:31:51 GMT -5
I feel like there's a large amount of missing information here. Agreed! Everything that’s coming from a lawyer thus far is coming from Colt’s side. Punk hasn’t spoken a word (which is typical for Punk). An old saying springs to mind.... Don’t argue with fools, because people from a distance can’t tell who is who. Or are they Jay-Z lyrics?
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