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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Aug 10, 2018 22:36:25 GMT -5
So. Much. Chisme!
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 10, 2018 22:42:18 GMT -5
Cult?? He's not Paul Heyman, he's not likeable, he's actually an asshole. What is he giving them money or something that I'm not aware of? You keep acting like Cabana is completely innocent of everything, I don't know if he is or not, but two of his closest friends just turned on him, there's more to this story. Or it could be that they're doing this so as not to have Punk turn against them as well And why are they afraid of that? Again I ask is he giving them money or something? Being close to Punk might not be a good thing since the wwe hates him and could blackball you. Punk is a f***ing Z list celebrity that got his ass kicked twice now in the UFC, he also got eliminated first on a bullshit MTV reality show. You're talking like if he were a huge celebrity or something when he's not. There's not a single benefit whatsoever to being CM Punk's friend, if you're his friend it's because you like him, not because you can take something from him, hell there's nothing to take from him. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 10, 2018 22:45:55 GMT -5
Just stop it. Paul Heyman stole money and bounced checks. Because of him Candido and Sunny lost their home, Dreamer lost a lot of shit and wasn't paid in six months. Dixie Carter promised Jesse Sorensen's mom that she would take care of him. She didn't and Jesse's mom had to close her restaurant because of the medical bills. Or let's not forget how Dixie treated Daffney or Nigel. Punk saved Joey Mercury from losing his house. Punk also never bounced a check or failed to pay anyone. Punk's only crime is being an asshole. Cutting off people from your life is not a crime. If he or Cabana is on the wrong only time will tell. But you don't get to compare Punk with monsters just because you don't like him. No, dude, you're missing the point. That gaslighting manipulative deliberate deception and demanding unquestioning loyalty is what Punk has in common with the others mentioned. I liked Punk prior to this, but that doesn'y mean I can't call an insecure paranoid odd duck when I see one. Just because Punk's done it on a much smaller scale than having a full-fledged business about it doesn't make him any less guilty of manipulation. Unprovoked ghosting and demanding people fall in line with your way of thinking is abuse. Punk doing this to Colt, in text saying he was going to cover any expenses as long as Colt followed his lead, and then pulling out is a Heyman/Dixie move. No no no, you compared him to real scumbags and so far he hasn't proven to be like that. Demanding loyalty doesn't make you like Dixie or Heyman, it makes you an asshole, and again being an asshole is not a crime. Calling abuse what Punk does is bullshit. He has never held anyone hostage or beat someone up, or manipulate people into staying. You're taking Colt's word as gospel and there hasn't being a trial yet. |
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Post by Fade on Aug 10, 2018 23:08:13 GMT -5
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Post by doinkmark on Aug 11, 2018 1:45:42 GMT -5
I can relate to Punk on this one. An ex-friend of mine had various medical issues, so she was always struggling financially. She came to me for help and I gave it because we were close and I made a good living. $20 here and there eventually turned into $100 every few weeks, and then $1,000 every few months. Meanwhile, inflation, higher taxes, everything's going up but my check. It also didn't help that along the way my friend became entitled. "Thank you" decreased and "That's not enough" increased, causing resentment on my end. Then, I lost my job. She came around again, seeking thousands, and I finally had to decline giving her anything at all. At that point, she decided I was "untrustworthy", blocked me, and hasn't spoken to me since.
Punk quit his WWE gig, lost on that reality show, his UFC career didn't go as he'd planned, and he probably didn't expect the trial to last as long as it did or be as expensive as it was. I suspect he had every intention of covering his boy at first, but life happened, and he finally said he can't do it anymore. For Cabana to respond to that with a lawsuit (BTW, why can you afford THAT lawyer?) Is shitty.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 2:41:01 GMT -5
I can relate to Punk on this one. An ex-friend of mine had various medical issues, so she was always struggling financially. She came to me for help and I gave it because we were close and I made a good living. $20 here and there eventually turned into $100 every few weeks, and then $1,000 every few months. Meanwhile, inflation, higher taxes, everything's going up but my check. It also didn't help that along the way my friend became entitled. "Thank you" decreased and "That's not enough" increased, causing resentment on my end. Then, I lost my job. She came around again, seeking thousands, and I finally had to decline giving her anything at all. At that point, she decided I was "untrustworthy", blocked me, and hasn't spoken to me since. Punk quit his WWE gig, lost on that reality show, his UFC career didn't go as he'd planned, and he probably didn't expect the trial to last as long as it did or be as expensive as it was. I suspect he had every intention of covering his boy at first, but life happened, and he finally said he can't do it anymore. For Cabana to respond to that with a lawsuit (BTW, why can you afford THAT lawyer?) Is shitty. Different scenario though because Cabana didn’t ask Punk to pay his fees to begin with, this whole trial started because Annan asked him to take down the podcast, Punk said not to and he would cover any fees that would result from it Unless you caused your friends medical issues, told them to get the most expensive treatment as you would cover it and then refuse after the treatment had been completed then it’s not the same Punk make a commitment, he should honour it. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 11, 2018 2:42:43 GMT -5
I can relate to Punk on this one. An ex-friend of mine had various medical issues, so she was always struggling financially. She came to me for help and I gave it because we were close and I made a good living. $20 here and there eventually turned into $100 every few weeks, and then $1,000 every few months. Meanwhile, inflation, higher taxes, everything's going up but my check. It also didn't help that along the way my friend became entitled. "Thank you" decreased and "That's not enough" increased, causing resentment on my end. Then, I lost my job. She came around again, seeking thousands, and I finally had to decline giving her anything at all. At that point, she decided I was "untrustworthy", blocked me, and hasn't spoken to me since. Punk quit his WWE gig, lost on that reality show, his UFC career didn't go as he'd planned, and he probably didn't expect the trial to last as long as it did or be as expensive as it was. I suspect he had every intention of covering his boy at first, but life happened, and he finally said he can't do it anymore. For Cabana to respond to that with a lawsuit (BTW, why can you afford THAT lawyer?) Is shitty. That could be a theory of what happened. Maybe this has been brewing for years and there's other stuff other than the Amann lawsuit that just pissed off Punk. The only reason I'm currently on team Punk is because Colt Cabana's closest friends turned on him, and Punk as far as I know ain't paying them or keeping them hostage. Cliff Compton only has a career and gets bookings because of his appearances in the art of wrestling, f*** he only has t shirts because of AOW. You can say that Colt has done way more than Punk has ever done for Compton, but still Cliff took Punk's side. There's two sides to every story and we'll probably learn the truth of what happened in a couple of years when the trial has a date. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 11, 2018 2:44:31 GMT -5
I can relate to Punk on this one. An ex-friend of mine had various medical issues, so she was always struggling financially. She came to me for help and I gave it because we were close and I made a good living. $20 here and there eventually turned into $100 every few weeks, and then $1,000 every few months. Meanwhile, inflation, higher taxes, everything's going up but my check. It also didn't help that along the way my friend became entitled. "Thank you" decreased and "That's not enough" increased, causing resentment on my end. Then, I lost my job. She came around again, seeking thousands, and I finally had to decline giving her anything at all. At that point, she decided I was "untrustworthy", blocked me, and hasn't spoken to me since. Punk quit his WWE gig, lost on that reality show, his UFC career didn't go as he'd planned, and he probably didn't expect the trial to last as long as it did or be as expensive as it was. I suspect he had every intention of covering his boy at first, but life happened, and he finally said he can't do it anymore. For Cabana to respond to that with a lawsuit (BTW, why can you afford THAT lawyer?) Is shitty. Different scenario though because Cabana didn’t ask Punk to pay his fees to begin with, this whole trial started because Annan asked him to take down the podcast, Punk said not to and he would cover any fees that would result from it Unless you caused your friends medical issues, told them to get the most expensive treatment as you would cover it and then refuse after the treatment had been completed then it’s not the same Punk make a commitment, he should honour it. We'll only know the extent of the commitment during the trial. We only know Cabana's side. If Punk promised to take care of everything then f*** him he should pay, but we don't know yet. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 2:50:36 GMT -5
Different scenario though because Cabana didn’t ask Punk to pay his fees to begin with, this whole trial started because Annan asked him to take down the podcast, Punk said not to and he would cover any fees that would result from it Unless you caused your friends medical issues, told them to get the most expensive treatment as you would cover it and then refuse after the treatment had been completed then it’s not the same Punk make a commitment, he should honour it. We'll only know the extent of the commitment during the trial. We only know Cabana's side. If Punk promised to take care of everything then f*** him he should pay, but we don't know yet. Yes, true. I am just working on the assumption based on the limited information available. If different information comes out during the trial then that may change the optics of the case |
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Post by segaz on Aug 11, 2018 2:56:43 GMT -5
CM Punk: I got you covered Colt Cabana: Thanks, I almost gave up on you**CM Punk, thinking CC is making fun of him, cuts off his friendship Fixed |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 11, 2018 3:29:27 GMT -5
We'll only know the extent of the commitment during the trial. We only know Cabana's side. If Punk promised to take care of everything then f*** him he should pay, but we don't know yet. Yes, true. I am just working on the assumption based on the limited information available. If different information comes out during the trial then that may change the optics of the case Well it's up to Punk if he wants to settle or not, I'll admit based on the emails and text messages this doesn't look good on him, it's up to him now to disprove the allegations. Something happened in 2016 that pissed off Punk and he told Colt he would stop paying his legal costs. The rumor around that time was that Cabana went backstage to a wwe show. This is just my opinion, but during the lawsuit, Colt said that he believed Punk only had his lawyer represent Cabana for free after their falling out because Punk thought Colt would cooperate with Amann and testify against Punk. Maybe that has something to do with Punk refusing to pay for Cabana's legal fees? This is just my opinion but maybe either Colt was gonna cooperate with Amann or Punk was paranoid and thought Colt betrayed him. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 11, 2018 3:57:26 GMT -5
Well Trips and Vince are hi fiving each other. Punk will soon come crawling back to them and they'll be able to get a major star on a bargain bin rock bottom deal.
Punk will probably dress in his car since he hates and already alienated everyone in the locker room.
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Post by Big Chungus on Aug 11, 2018 3:58:45 GMT -5
Ace and Cliff are probably just pissed at Colt for taking it to the court, right after the both of them just got done with that trial, when he should've just tried to speak to Punk.
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Post by 111111 on Aug 11, 2018 4:45:44 GMT -5
"picking a side" in a lawsuit between people we don't even know over a situation we don't know all the sides to and have no actual stakes in isn't very wise tbh.
Colt could be in the right, Punk could be in the right or more likely both of them are in the wrong to some degree.
Life isn't black and white, things are down to how you perceive them.
It's also easy as an observer to a situation with hindsight to have an opinion, how people react in actual situations is very different.
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Post by chazraps on Aug 11, 2018 12:09:26 GMT -5
No, dude, you're missing the point. That gaslighting manipulative deliberate deception and demanding unquestioning loyalty is what Punk has in common with the others mentioned. I liked Punk prior to this, but that doesn'y mean I can't call an insecure paranoid odd duck when I see one. Just because Punk's done it on a much smaller scale than having a full-fledged business about it doesn't make him any less guilty of manipulation. Unprovoked ghosting and demanding people fall in line with your way of thinking is abuse. Punk doing this to Colt, in text saying he was going to cover any expenses as long as Colt followed his lead, and then pulling out is a Heyman/Dixie move. No no no, you compared him to real scumbags and so far he hasn't proven to be like that. Demanding loyalty doesn't make you like Dixie or Heyman, it makes you an asshole, and again being an asshole is not a crime. Calling abuse what Punk does is bullshit. He has never held anyone hostage or beat someone up, or manipulate people into staying.
You're taking Colt's word as gospel and there hasn't being a trial yet. You should really reevaluate what constitutes abuse, especially in relationships. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 11, 2018 12:58:43 GMT -5
Post WWE Punk has been an embarrassment. I'm amazed anyone still chants for this chump.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 11, 2018 13:06:47 GMT -5
Dunno how one can intelligently weigh in for either guy really. Can't see goin to bat for either dude given how little info there is.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Aug 11, 2018 13:09:48 GMT -5
I can relate to Punk on this one. An ex-friend of mine had various medical issues, so she was always struggling financially. She came to me for help and I gave it because we were close and I made a good living. $20 here and there eventually turned into $100 every few weeks, and then $1,000 every few months. Meanwhile, inflation, higher taxes, everything's going up but my check. It also didn't help that along the way my friend became entitled. "Thank you" decreased and "That's not enough" increased, causing resentment on my end. Then, I lost my job. She came around again, seeking thousands, and I finally had to decline giving her anything at all. At that point, she decided I was "untrustworthy", blocked me, and hasn't spoken to me since. Punk quit his WWE gig, lost on that reality show, his UFC career didn't go as he'd planned, and he probably didn't expect the trial to last as long as it did or be as expensive as it was. I suspect he had every intention of covering his boy at first, but life happened, and he finally said he can't do it anymore. For Cabana to respond to that with a lawsuit (BTW, why can you afford THAT lawyer?) Is shitty. If Punk simply could not afford it anymore, that’s reasonable, and seems like the type of thing he could tell a friend. The wording he used is very hostile and suggests that’s absolutely not the case. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 11, 2018 13:15:32 GMT -5
No no no, you compared him to real scumbags and so far he hasn't proven to be like that. Demanding loyalty doesn't make you like Dixie or Heyman, it makes you an asshole, and again being an asshole is not a crime. Calling abuse what Punk does is bullshit. He has never held anyone hostage or beat someone up, or manipulate people into staying.
You're taking Colt's word as gospel and there hasn't being a trial yet. You should really reevaluate what constitutes abuse, especially in relationships. And you're accusing him of abuse without any evidence whatsoever other than him being an asshole. If CM Punk is manipulating people so they remain their friends and follow every single one of his orders then I'll concede that you're right and he's abusing his friends. But until then you're wrong. Stuff like Hornswoggle was bullshit but that's not abuse. Punk has every right to cut people from his life, that makes him an asshole not an abuser. You're painting him like he's some monster when there's no evidence of that. This lawsuit for the moment is just allegations. You're ignoring the stuff he did for Mercury or Darren Young or Kofi. You're comparing him to real monsters in Heyman and Dixie and that's not fair at all. Also your arguing that Colt did nothing wrong despite his closest friends calling him out on it, and when they do you say it's only because CM Punk is running them like a cult, not because Cabana is capable of being on the wrong. |
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Post by Big Chungus on Aug 11, 2018 13:34:49 GMT -5
They should take it to wrestler's court.
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