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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 11, 2018 13:38:46 GMT -5
They should take it to wrestler's court. That won't work. The way to win the case is buying booze for the boys. Punk doesn't drink and Cabana can't afford it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 11, 2018 13:41:28 GMT -5
I can relate to Punk on this one. An ex-friend of mine had various medical issues, so she was always struggling financially. She came to me for help and I gave it because we were close and I made a good living. $20 here and there eventually turned into $100 every few weeks, and then $1,000 every few months. Meanwhile, inflation, higher taxes, everything's going up but my check. It also didn't help that along the way my friend became entitled. "Thank you" decreased and "That's not enough" increased, causing resentment on my end. Then, I lost my job. She came around again, seeking thousands, and I finally had to decline giving her anything at all. At that point, she decided I was "untrustworthy", blocked me, and hasn't spoken to me since. Punk quit his WWE gig, lost on that reality show, his UFC career didn't go as he'd planned, and he probably didn't expect the trial to last as long as it did or be as expensive as it was. I suspect he had every intention of covering his boy at first, but life happened, and he finally said he can't do it anymore. For Cabana to respond to that with a lawsuit (BTW, why can you afford THAT lawyer?) Is shitty. If Punk simply could not afford it anymore, thatās reasonable, and seems like the type of thing he could tell a friend. The wording he used is very hostile and suggests thatās absolutely not the case. This thing will turn around completely if it comes out Punk said he couldn't afford it and was upfront with Colt about that after the fact. Yes, he would still be an ass for dragging his friend into this but there would be some honesty there
If it went something like Punk saying listen I bit off more than I can chew and this shit is expensive and I know I promised you I pay it all but it's hefty. I will pay off a good majority like 85% which would make it less than a 100K. I'm sorry bro, I love you and thanks for always having my back.
Now that's still a good chunk of change to be paying off something but it would be more "reasonable" imo if something like that went down. Colt would probably be like okay well I got to grind then and try to make it work but what we got came across as hostile and as you said suggest that this is more a petty move than a financial one
Of course we still got to hear more of the story but this is just reactions off what we know today
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 11, 2018 13:45:42 GMT -5
If Punk simply could not afford it anymore, thatās reasonable, and seems like the type of thing he could tell a friend. The wording he used is very hostile and suggests thatās absolutely not the case. This thing will turn around completely if it comes out Punk said he couldn't afford it and was upfront with Colt about that after the fact. Yes, he would still be an ass for dragging his friend into this but there would be some honesty there
If it went something like Punk saying listen I bit off more than I can chew and this shit is expensive and I know I promised you I pay it all but it's hefty. I will pay off a good majority like 85% which would make it less than a 100K. I'm sorry bro, I love you and thanks for always having my back.
Now that's still a good chunk of change to be paying off something but it would be more "reasonable" imo if something like that went down. Colt would probably be like okay well I got to grind then and try to make it work but what we got came across as hostile and as you said suggest that this is more a petty move than a financial one
Of course we still got to hear more of the story but this is just reactions off what we know today
The weird thing here is why he accepted to pay all of the legal fees for two straight years then all of the sudden he told him to f*** off. Like Punk had no problem spending hundreds of thousands in two years without ever complaining but all of the sudden he just stopped. His lawyers probably told him how much it was going to cost but he still went with it.
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Post by blissified on Aug 11, 2018 13:49:31 GMT -5
AJ must have tons of patience to deal with his attitude.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 11, 2018 13:54:42 GMT -5
This thing will turn around completely if it comes out Punk said he couldn't afford it and was upfront with Colt about that after the fact. Yes, he would still be an ass for dragging his friend into this but there would be some honesty there
If it went something like Punk saying listen I bit off more than I can chew and this shit is expensive and I know I promised you I pay it all but it's hefty. I will pay off a good majority like 85% which would make it less than a 100K. I'm sorry bro, I love you and thanks for always having my back.
Now that's still a good chunk of change to be paying off something but it would be more "reasonable" imo if something like that went down. Colt would probably be like okay well I got to grind then and try to make it work but what we got came across as hostile and as you said suggest that this is more a petty move than a financial one
Of course we still got to hear more of the story but this is just reactions off what we know today
The weird thing here is why he accepted to pay all of the legal fees for two straight years then all of the sudden he told him to f*** off. Like Punk had no problem spending hundreds of thousands in two years without ever complaining but all of the sudden he just stopped. His lawyers probably told him how much it was going to cost but he still went with it. It has to do with there falling out
If it's the Raw situation or whatever happened we don't know about from what we know we can assume Punk was willing to pay as he said previously but once they had their falling out he said f*** that noise and probably informed his lawyer of the situation as well
With the way the layer carefully worded that statement it seems he knew they weren't on good terms and with Punk saying he's not paying anymore that shit is going to release all negative feelings
Like I said I can believe Punk probably looked at that bill and went holy f*** this is much more than I expected and it's something he can afford but not comfortable paying. That's a human reaction, no one wants to give up 500K. However, you put your ass out there to be seen by doing the interview and presumingly telling Colt to not take it down and you were willing to bite the bullet until you feel Colt slighted you
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 11, 2018 13:58:27 GMT -5
The weird thing here is why he accepted to pay all of the legal fees for two straight years then all of the sudden he told him to f*** off. Like Punk had no problem spending hundreds of thousands in two years without ever complaining but all of the sudden he just stopped. His lawyers probably told him how much it was going to cost but he still went with it. It has to do with there falling out
If it's the Raw situation or whatever happened we don't know about from what we know we can assume Punk was willing to pay as he said previously but once they had their falling out he said f*** that noise and probably informed his lawyer of the situation as well
With the way the layer carefully worded that statement it seems he knew they weren't on good terms and with Punk saying he's not paying anymore that shit is going to release all negative feelings
Like I said I can believe Punk probably looked at that bill and went holy f*** this is much more than I expected and it's something he can afford but not comfortable paying. That's a human reaction, no one wants to give up 500K. However, you put your ass out there to be seen by doing the interview and presumingly telling Colt to not take it down and you were willing to bite the bullet until you feel Colt slighted you
Well that's the most interesting part here. What led to the falling out. Seems that hack Frontrow Brian was right when he broke the story years ago.
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Post by xCompackx on Aug 11, 2018 15:02:26 GMT -5
I mean, if you offer to pay your friend's legal bills, especially when you're the cause of it in the first place, and then renege for whatever reason, you can't really complain when said friend takes you to court.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 11, 2018 15:14:29 GMT -5
I mean, if you offer to pay your friend's legal bills, especially when you're the cause of it in the first place, and then renege for whatever reason, you can't really complain when said friend takes you to court. Well, of course you can complain. You probably just shouldn't be too surprised.
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Post by lionheart21 on Aug 11, 2018 15:33:33 GMT -5
"picking a side" in a lawsuit between people we don't even know over a situation we don't know all the sides to and have no actual stakes in isn't very wise tbh. Colt could be in the right, Punk could be in the right or more likely both of them are in the wrong to some degree. Life isn't black and white, things are down to how you perceive them. It's also easy as an observer to a situation with hindsight to have an opinion, how people react in actual situations is very different. This is correct. However, just taken from what we know at face value, I've gotta side with Colt on this. Like you said, things could change, although I could only see it as both of them being assholes.
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Post by lionheart21 on Aug 11, 2018 15:36:04 GMT -5
If Punk simply could not afford it anymore, thatās reasonable, and seems like the type of thing he could tell a friend. The wording he used is very hostile and suggests thatās absolutely not the case. This thing will turn around completely if it comes out Punk said he couldn't afford it and was upfront with Colt about that after the fact. Yes, he would still be an ass for dragging his friend into this but there would be some honesty there If it went something like Punk saying listen I bit off more than I can chew and this shit is expensive and I know I promised you I pay it all but it's hefty. I will pay off a good majority like 85% which would make it less than a 100K. I'm sorry bro, I love you and thanks for always having my back.
Now that's still a good chunk of change to be paying off something but it would be more "reasonable" imo if something like that went down. Colt would probably be like okay well I got to grind then and try to make it work but what we got came across as hostile and as you said suggest that this is more a petty move than a financial one Of course we still got to hear more of the story but this is just reactions off what we know today
If that does turn out to be the case, I'd be a lot more sympathetic towards Punk since its tough to pay off your friend's debts when you have issues with your own.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Aug 11, 2018 15:39:53 GMT -5
This thing will turn around completely if it comes out Punk said he couldn't afford it and was upfront with Colt about that after the fact. Yes, he would still be an ass for dragging his friend into this but there would be some honesty there If it went something like Punk saying listen I bit off more than I can chew and this shit is expensive and I know I promised you I pay it all but it's hefty. I will pay off a good majority like 85% which would make it less than a 100K. I'm sorry bro, I love you and thanks for always having my back.
Now that's still a good chunk of change to be paying off something but it would be more "reasonable" imo if something like that went down. Colt would probably be like okay well I got to grind then and try to make it work but what we got came across as hostile and as you said suggest that this is more a petty move than a financial one Of course we still got to hear more of the story but this is just reactions off what we know today
If that does turn out to be the case, I'd be a lot more sympathetic towards Punk since its tough to pay off your friend's debts when you have issues with your own. I wouldnāt. Punk simply could have said as much. Instead heās taking a āf*** you and the horse I put you onā approach.
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Post by chazraps on Aug 11, 2018 15:43:48 GMT -5
You should really reevaluate what constitutes abuse, especially in relationships. And you're accusing him of abuse without any evidence whatsoever other than him being an asshole. If CM Punk is manipulating people so they remain their friends and follow every single one of his orders then I'll concede that you're right and he's abusing his friends. But until then you're wrong. Stuff like Hornswoggle was bullshit but that's not abuse. Punk has every right to cut people from his life, that makes him an asshole not an abuser. You're painting him like he's some monster when there's no evidence of that. This lawsuit for the moment is just allegations. You're ignoring the stuff he did for Mercury or Darren Young or Kofi. You're comparing him to real monsters in Heyman and Dixie and that's not fair at all. Also your arguing that Colt did nothing wrong despite his closest friends calling him out on it, and when they do you say it's only because CM Punk is running them like a cult, not because Cabana is capable of being on the wrong. Re-read my posts.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 11, 2018 16:00:52 GMT -5
This thing will turn around completely if it comes out Punk said he couldn't afford it and was upfront with Colt about that after the fact. Yes, he would still be an ass for dragging his friend into this but there would be some honesty there If it went something like Punk saying listen I bit off more than I can chew and this shit is expensive and I know I promised you I pay it all but it's hefty. I will pay off a good majority like 85% which would make it less than a 100K. I'm sorry bro, I love you and thanks for always having my back.
Now that's still a good chunk of change to be paying off something but it would be more "reasonable" imo if something like that went down. Colt would probably be like okay well I got to grind then and try to make it work but what we got came across as hostile and as you said suggest that this is more a petty move than a financial one Of course we still got to hear more of the story but this is just reactions off what we know today
If that does turn out to be the case, I'd be a lot more sympathetic towards Punk since its tough to pay off your friend's debts when you have issues with your own. Right. If Punk said that it would def be more favor for him as itās admitting human fault and Colt can be mad but they are in it together and Punk is still absorbing majority blame
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Post by Fade on Aug 11, 2018 16:01:16 GMT -5
AJ must have tons of patience to deal with his attitude. Or, ya know, love.
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Post by blissified on Aug 11, 2018 17:11:07 GMT -5
AJ must have tons of patience to deal with his attitude. Or, ya know, love. Or, ya know, No couple is perfect and has their flaws.
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Post by Fade on Aug 11, 2018 17:29:23 GMT -5
Or, ya know, No couple is perfect and has their flaws. Yeah. I'm agreeing with that. Thus the "love" part.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 11, 2018 17:34:03 GMT -5
If that does turn out to be the case, I'd be a lot more sympathetic towards Punk since its tough to pay off your friend's debts when you have issues with your own. I wouldnāt. Punk simply could have said as much. Instead heās taking a āf*** you and the horse I put you onā approach. Pretty much. That's a situation where you need to be straight up without coming into it all self-righteous and cold-blooded. With the information we have now, the thing that really sticks out to me is that it seems like the Lawyers knew that all this was going to go down before Colt did.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Aug 11, 2018 21:04:29 GMT -5
Cabana is right to seek reparations from Punk. I still canāt help but feel bad for Punk, himself. He wanted to be done with WWE, but their doctorās petty, spiteful lawsuit cost him years of his life, a million+ dollars, and his best friend before it was over.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 11, 2018 21:13:53 GMT -5
I'm waiting for Freighttrain's view on the matter.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Aug 11, 2018 22:12:06 GMT -5
FWIW, Meltzer reported last night that he spoke to a person whoās close to this situation and the guy didnāt go into detail, but he said that was sympathetic to Punkās side.
So obviously, thereās gotta be something big here we donāt know about since Punk appears to be at fault at first glance.
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