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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2018 0:15:41 GMT -5
Right, Punk could counter sue which is an option
Everything depends on details or lack thereof. From Colt perspective as long as he didn't say anything "stupid" then his case is just to prove Punk said he would cover his legal fees
With Punk and his lawyer the burden of specific details will rely on them. They would have to have something clearly stating this arrangement was only meant for this circumstance because right now things that are said is vague as far as details go but we have a clear statement of Punk willing to pay his legal fees which greatly helps Colt in that regard.
We have to see if other things come out such as text or written statements that has Punk or his Lawyer saying he was only going to pay for this circumstance and nothing more. If he can't prove that then he's going have to pay up
There definitely needs to be more evidence of Punk saying he would cover all of Cabana’s costs. I’m just not seeing it. Cabana says he doesn’t want to respond to legal notices and Punk tells him he’ll talk to his lawyer and make sure he’s 100% covered. That could just mean covering Cabana’s ass by getting his lawyer involved for all we know. Sure we’ve heard stories of Punk buying a house for Joey Mercury but this isn’t a green light that Punk is going to pay for everything for Cabana here. That won’t even be brought up to a jury. Just that Cabana expects hundreds of thousands of dollars with nothing concrete in writing. People just don’t do things like that. Punk even told Cabana two years ago to start paying his half. That evidence is there. I’m not taking sides here, I’m only interested in the facts and the truth. This sheds a lot of new light on this case and Cabana isn’t looking like such a victim anymore. Shrugging off the legal notifications and he wasn’t asking Punk to cover his fines if they lost either. This is feeling more manipulative on Cabana’s part the more details I’m reading. I won’t be surprised if Punk flies a countersuit if that’s all Cabana’s got. But Punk said he would pay and reigned back after what we believe is a conflict between the two.
Colt only got into this legal mess cause of Punk. His biggest mistake was not getting what Punk said in writing but that was his friend and he trusted him. Punk is the one who initiated this whole thing by telling Colt to not take the podcast down. He's the one who offered payment and from what we know that payment was indeed true (now if there is a clause on it we shall see)
The facts are Punk said he would pay for Colt's bill that's the plain and simple. From what we know at this second it is up to Punk to prove that these payments only pertained to Punk's own lawyer and not anyone else which we don't see in those documents thus far so it actually helps Colt's case
I don't see manipulative here at all. We have seen comments from Punk through this and it doesn't make him look any better.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2018 0:21:11 GMT -5
But in saying that let's just leave it at that since we will just continue going back and forth
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Aug 13, 2018 1:16:31 GMT -5
But in saying that let's just leave it at that since we will just continue going back and forth Agreed but I suggest you read through the exhibits in the Bixenspan twitter posts again. A lot of what you’re mentioning is simply not there. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 13, 2018 1:31:23 GMT -5
Interesting note that probably means nothing. Had the two part Punk podcast and Domino Nigeria episodes saved but they’re gone from saved now somehow. Also, the rerelease of Nigeria he did at the beginning of the year doesn’t appear to be available for download either.
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Post by chazraps on Aug 13, 2018 1:39:27 GMT -5
Interesting note that probably means nothing. Had the two part Punk podcast and Domino Nigeria episodes saved but they’re gone from saved now somehow. Also, the rerelease of Nigeria he did at the beginning of the year doesn’t appear to be available for download either. This on Earwolf or iTunes? |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 13, 2018 2:14:48 GMT -5
Interesting note that probably means nothing. Had the two part Punk podcast and Domino Nigeria episodes saved but they’re gone from saved now somehow. Also, the rerelease of Nigeria he did at the beginning of the year doesn’t appear to be available for download either. This on Earwolf or iTunes? iTunes. Not sure why the saved episodes disappeared, you know, they were saved...But their podcast app is shit, so it could just be that too. |
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Post by abjordans on Aug 13, 2018 5:32:26 GMT -5
Is it true Cabana has a crowd sourcing up for his legal fees? Like, damn dude we have to pay your bills?
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 13, 2018 5:58:23 GMT -5
Punk got him into the mess then hung him out to dry so has it com I ng.
I think it's idiotic that Amann isn't the one paying the legal fees, he initiated the suit and soundly lost. How messed up is it that that can happen and the innocent parties be left financially crippled?
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Post by BD Punk AKA SUSPENDED! on Aug 13, 2018 6:58:06 GMT -5
I agree that Punk is a narcissistic, obnoxious, arrogant asshole, but that doesn't automatically mean he's at fault for this. There are plenty of examples of Punk not being an asshole as well. - Paid for Joey Mercury's house so he wouldn't lose it - Let Kofi and others ride on his personal bus while in WWE - While teaming with Gallows in SES, Punk routinely took the fall in matches in order to keep Gallows "strong". Feeling he could eat the pin and not lose his heat - In his last match in the Rumble, Punk took it upon himself to try and help get the new guys over by offering to take their "best stuff" upon entering the ring. He asked Rusev (in his main roster debut) what he wanted to do to him when he entered. Rusev didn't really have an answer so Punk told him to give him his best shit. - Went back to ROH in 2006 for Unscripted 2 while in OVW when many ROH stars got snowed in to help the company out None of those negative or positive stories about Punk have any bearing on this instance. Punk could very well be 100% at fault and if he is, should pay Cabana the money he's owed. This could also be Cabana (realizing he lost a ton of money in the trial) trying to get money out of Punk. I'll just wait and let the court decide before I hurt myself jumping to conclusions. You make excellent points, but damn your argument is undercut by your avatar. I fully admit Punk is my all-time favorite and I don't like people just assuming that because Punk is an asshole, he owes Cabana tons of money. I like Colt too, met him once and he seemed like a cool dude. I feel bad for him being stuck in the middle of all of this. If he can prove to the court that Punk offered to cover his court fees, then he deserves for Punk to do just that. If he can't, then he's on the hook. I think that both guys need to come to some kind of compromise before this goes to court and ends up costing them BOTH tons more money. |
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Aug 13, 2018 7:59:42 GMT -5
Is it true Cabana has a crowd sourcing up for his legal fees? Like, damn dude we have to pay your bills? He recommended it. It wasn’t put into action to my knowledge. If he loses the case, I would expect him to attempt it. |
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Post by abjordans on Aug 13, 2018 8:04:24 GMT -5
Is it true Cabana has a crowd sourcing up for his legal fees? Like, damn dude we have to pay your bills? He recommended it. It wasn’t put into action to my knowledge. If he loses the case, I would expect him to attempt it. I find that to be a little much if he does, and I say that as a big Colt fan. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 13, 2018 9:11:43 GMT -5
He recommended it. It wasn’t put into action to my knowledge. If he loses the case, I would expect him to attempt it. I find that to be a little much if he does, and I say that as a big Colt fan. Why, though? Just because he puts it up doesn't obligate you to contribute to it. |
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Post by chazraps on Aug 13, 2018 9:41:35 GMT -5
He recommended it. It wasn’t put into action to my knowledge. If he loses the case, I would expect him to attempt it. I find that to be a little much if he does, and I say that as a big Colt fan. I'm sure it wouldn't be just him begging for money. If - and I hope it doesn't - it did come to that, it'd probably be kickstarter style where he'd have different gifts/premiums/incentives for contributions. Not really that weird than anyone else selling merch, only with this we know the cause where the money's going. |
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Aug 13, 2018 10:01:59 GMT -5
I find that to be a little much if he does, and I say that as a big Colt fan. Why, though? Just because he puts it up doesn't obligate you to contribute to it. I’m assuming he just thinks it’s a bad look. If he can’t get Punk to pay his bills, he’ll get the fans to do it. It’s like he won’t take any responsibility for his own debt whatsoever. I get being put off by that. |
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Post by Brian Suntan on Aug 13, 2018 10:31:14 GMT -5
But in saying that let's just leave it at that since we will just continue going back and forth Agreed but I suggest you read through the exhibits in the Bixenspan twitter posts again. A lot of what you’re mentioning is simply not there. There are two seperate emails from Punk's lawyer stating to Colt that Punk had agreed to cover the costs of them representing him. One before and after they fell out. So that part isn't in doubt. On another note, I think the Kickstarter idea is cynical and pathetic, and I think less of both of them for considering it. Shows nothing but contempt for their own fans. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2018 10:31:28 GMT -5
We shall see
The bottom line is still he wouldn’t be in this mess if it wasn’t for Punk
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Post by abjordans on Aug 13, 2018 10:51:10 GMT -5
I find that to be a little much if he does, and I say that as a big Colt fan. Why, though? Just because he puts it up doesn't obligate you to contribute to it. I think crowd funding should be for tragedies, getting projects off the ground, etc. Not for paying someone’s bills/debt. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 13, 2018 10:52:52 GMT -5
Is it true Cabana has a crowd sourcing up for his legal fees? Like, damn dude we have to pay your bills? "With ten dollars I'll send you this great earbuds, with 20 I'll throw in used prowrestling tees shirts." I love that he's a carny but this is just too much. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2018 10:58:06 GMT -5
I find that to be a little much if he does, and I say that as a big Colt fan. Why, though? Just because he puts it up doesn't obligate you to contribute to it. Exactly This is really no diff than anything else as people use shit like Go Fund me for a lot of diff things but you aren’t obliged to do so |
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Post by PTBartman on Aug 13, 2018 10:58:47 GMT -5
Well I always wondered what would've happened if Marty Jannetty or Beefcake sued their more successful partners. Guess this is as close as it gets. I want to see Beefcake sue Janetty for the cost of that window he cowardly dove through. |
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