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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 15, 2018 10:28:25 GMT -5
Listen to Jericho talk about trying to be Punk's friend. He isn't even trying to dis him but you can totally see what a paranoid ass Punk is. On a sense I can understand cutting a guy like Jericho off because he's always trying to work something
However, Jericho does have a life outside WWE and you would think he'd be able to connect to someone like that who's been able to maintain his sanity despite over 20 years in the business
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 15, 2018 10:29:22 GMT -5
Not sure about Kofi, but it wouldn't surprise me. Hell, Punk was pretty friendly with Miz up until Miz got the world title push and subsequent WrestleMania main event, at which point he never passed up a chance to shit on Miz, whether it be on the BITW documentary, in interviews, or on podcasts, and more or less admitted that whenever they worked a match together after that he'd put zero effort into making it work. Even as a big fan of Punk, I can't not notice how much of an insecure, narcissistic bag of dicks he can be. Not that he ever hid it, that is. He's always been pretty open about the way he's wired. That's petty as hell, Miz had to go through hell (even more so due to his reality show past) and worked his ass off to earn a shot. Also, when you say that he made no effort into making it work, was that Punk saying that about himself or Miz? Would assume that's about himself
Him and Elijah Burke didn't get along at all and you saw that clearly in the ring
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 15, 2018 10:44:26 GMT -5
One thing ,when were Miz and Punk ever friends? As far as I know ,ever since ECW, they never got along. They were never friends, but there was never any hostility either. Then Miz got his megapush and Punk became openly salty. |
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Aug 15, 2018 10:47:23 GMT -5
Remembering the podcast with Cabana it seems the only friends Punk has in the business and probably keeps in touch with is Brock, Heyman, and Batista.
Punk and Brock are very similar in their personalities which is why they most likely hit it off so well. Batista and Punk both are very outspoken and aren't afraid of standing up against the status quo. Heyman for obvious reasons as they both have similar views of the wrestling business.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 15, 2018 10:50:45 GMT -5
Also, when you say that he made no effort into making it work, was that Punk saying that about himself or Miz? IIRC it was something along the lines of Miz being one of the guys he didn't care about having a good match with. "If it stinks, it stinks" or words to that effect. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 11:05:31 GMT -5
One thing ,when were Miz and Punk ever friends? As far as I know ,ever since ECW, they never got along. They were never friends, but there was never any hostility either. Then Miz got his megapush and Punk became openly salty. Which is kind of baffling given Punk was injured when Miz's rise happened and New Nexus was probably the worst work of his career. |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Aug 15, 2018 11:22:21 GMT -5
Not sure about Kofi, but it wouldn't surprise me. Hell, Punk was pretty friendly with Miz up until Miz got the world title push and subsequent WrestleMania main event, at which point he never passed up a chance to shit on Miz, whether it be on the BITW documentary, in interviews, or on podcasts, and more or less admitted that whenever they worked a match together after that he'd put zero effort into making it work. Even as a big fan of Punk, I can't not notice how much of an insecure, narcissistic bag of dicks he can be. Not that he ever hid it, that is. He's always been pretty open about the way he's wired. That's petty as hell, Miz had to go through hell (even more so due to his reality show past) and worked his ass off to earn a shot. Exactly. The Miz might not be everyone's cup of tea, so to speak, but I don't think his most rabid haters could deny that he absolutely deserves everything he gets in the wrestling business. He's busted his ass and has done everything asked of him and then some. He's everything right in the wrestling business. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 15, 2018 11:26:43 GMT -5
One thing ,when were Miz and Punk ever friends? As far as I know ,ever since ECW, they never got along. They were never friends, but there was never any hostility either. Then Miz got his megapush and Punk became openly salty. Wonder how Miz feels on that
The only one I can remember him being somewhat really salty to was JBL on and off camera. I know he referenced JBL giving him a hard time on interviews before in reference to when he was a rookie and he also cut promos on JBL, I believe one right after he won MITB
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Post by salz4life on Aug 15, 2018 11:27:25 GMT -5
The Miz has busted his ass to get where he is. I like Punk (although it's getting hard to do that lately), but IMO, he is wrong about The Miz. He deserves everything he has gotten in the business.
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Post by Dub H on Aug 15, 2018 11:30:08 GMT -5
They were never friends, but there was never any hostility either. Then Miz got his megapush and Punk became openly salty. Which is kind of baffling given Punk was injured when Miz's rise happened and New Nexus was probably the worst work of his career. I think Punk did good work as the leader of new Nexus,the storyline was just crap. Punk from ECW to until he turned heel is the worst work of his career. |
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Post by Nosnorb on Aug 15, 2018 11:38:45 GMT -5
I know "X unfollowed Y on Twitter" is generally something to roll your eyes at, but with Colt, Hornswoggle, and Mercury it rings true with Punk, and almost every wresting personality he still follows on Twitter is not employed by WWE. Only three exceptions to this: - Ronda Rousey - Eric Young - Shayna Baszler And in Ronda and Shayna's cases it's likely because he follows almost every MMArtist on the face of the planet. So he follows Eric Young, but no other wrestlers (apart from Rousey and Shayna) in the WWE? That's weird.
Perhaps its because Eric is very talented wrestler who no matter how bad the booking he got in TNA, gave it his all and tried his best to make it work, so perhaps even Punk doesn't begrudge the guy having his moment in WWE. |
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Post by Nosnorb on Aug 15, 2018 11:42:12 GMT -5
They were never friends, but there was never any hostility either. Then Miz got his megapush and Punk became openly salty. Wonder how Miz feels on that
The only one I can remember him being somewhat really salty to was JBL on and off camera. I know he referenced JBL giving him a hard time on interviews before in reference to when he was a rookie and he also cut promos on JBL, I believe one right after he won MITB
IIRC during one promo (where MVP came out to confront The Miz), there was one incident in which Miz talked about being thrown out of the locker room, which was Benoit IRC, but Miz changed it to JBL for obvious reasons. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 11:57:09 GMT -5
They were never friends, but there was never any hostility either. Then Miz got his megapush and Punk became openly salty. Which is kind of baffling given Punk was injured when Miz's rise happened and New Nexus was probably the worst work of his career. This is one of my favourite things about wrestling; how one thing can be lived and hated by 2 different people. New Nexus Punk is my favourite thing he did in WWE. This is why wrestling maintains a fandom through good and bad. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 15, 2018 12:03:21 GMT -5
They were never friends, but there was never any hostility either. Then Miz got his megapush and Punk became openly salty. Wonder how Miz feels on that The only one I can remember him being somewhat really salty to was JBL on and off camera. I know he referenced JBL giving him a hard time on interviews before in reference to when he was a rookie and he also cut promos on JBL, I believe one right after he won MITB
I doubt Miz loses any sleep over it. He's a company darling, gets along great with everybody he works with, has had a HOF-worthy career, and has a dream family life. If I had all that I wouldn't much care what a couple of sourpuss ex-coworkers thought of me. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 15, 2018 12:08:20 GMT -5
Wonder how Miz feels on that The only one I can remember him being somewhat really salty to was JBL on and off camera. I know he referenced JBL giving him a hard time on interviews before in reference to when he was a rookie and he also cut promos on JBL, I believe one right after he won MITB
I doubt Miz loses any sleep over it. He's a company darling, gets along great with everybody he works with, has had a HOF-worthy career, and has a dream family life. If I had all that I wouldn't much care what a couple of sourpuss ex-coworkers thought of me. Pretty much yeah
I think he's way past the line of caring what anyone thinks about him especially people who don't work with the company and are in bad standing with the company as well
Even if he did hate them i'm sure he's enough a company man to welcome them back with open arms
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Aug 15, 2018 12:24:34 GMT -5
They were never friends, but there was never any hostility either. Then Miz got his megapush and Punk became openly salty. Which is kind of baffling given Punk was injured when Miz's rise happened and New Nexus was probably the worst work of his career. Makes sense to me. I’ve been resentful and pissed off at people I worked with who got promotions or raises ahead of me when I felt I was clearly more deserving. Punk was languishing in the shitty Nexus stuff, and Miz was getting to headline Mania with the freakin’ Rock as special ref. I’d be choked too |
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Aug 15, 2018 12:42:04 GMT -5
Which is kind of baffling given Punk was injured when Miz's rise happened and New Nexus was probably the worst work of his career. Makes sense to me. I’ve been resentful and pissed off at people I worked with who got promotions or raises ahead of me when I felt I was clearly more deserving. Punk was languishing in the shitty Nexus stuff, and Miz was getting to headline Mania with the freakin’ Rock as special ref. I’d be choked too Yep. I think it’s a bit much to say The Moz deserves everything he’s got, because unlike Punk and almost everyone else on the roster he spent zero time paying dues before the WWE contract came along. Has he made the most of it? Absolutely, but if he’d had to start from zero his career might have gone very differently. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 15, 2018 12:50:53 GMT -5
Makes sense to me. I’ve been resentful and pissed off at people I worked with who got promotions or raises ahead of me when I felt I was clearly more deserving. Punk was languishing in the shitty Nexus stuff, and Miz was getting to headline Mania with the freakin’ Rock as special ref. I’d be choked too Yep. I think it’s a bit much to say The Moz deserves everything he’s got, because unlike Punk and almost everyone else on the roster he spent zero time paying dues before the WWE contract came along. Has he made the most of it? Absolutely, but if he’d had to start from zero his career might have gone very differently. I disagree he didn't pay his dues
Just because he got hired didn't automatically ensure him anything. Sure Punk wrestled in gyms, bars, and whatever else he can do before WWE came calling but let's not forget Miz was treated like a complete joke for a good while before he did anything of substance. The dude was doing hosting duties
Does Punk have a right to feel jealous of Miz? Oh course, but it went past that to taking shots at someone who worked hard for that spot. There are different paths to wrestling in the big time than having to start up in shindies
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 15, 2018 12:53:13 GMT -5
Which is kind of baffling given Punk was injured when Miz's rise happened and New Nexus was probably the worst work of his career. Makes sense to me. I’ve been resentful and pissed off at people I worked with who got promotions or raises ahead of me when I felt I was clearly more deserving. Punk was languishing in the shitty Nexus stuff, and Miz was getting to headline Mania with the freakin’ Rock as special ref. I’d be choked too While he did get to headline Mania he was also by far the 3rd act in that match and he was the champion
On an off note sucks for him he doesn't remember too much of it because of the concussion
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 15, 2018 13:03:34 GMT -5
Yep. I think it’s a bit much to say The Moz deserves everything he’s got, because unlike Punk and almost everyone else on the roster he spent zero time paying dues before the WWE contract came along. Has he made the most of it? Absolutely, but if he’d had to start from zero his career might have gone very differently. I disagree he didn't pay his dues Just because he got hired didn't automatically ensure him anything. Sure Punk wrestled in gyms, bars, and whatever else he can do before WWE came calling but let's not forget Miz was treated like a complete joke for a good while before he did anything of substance. The dude was doing hosting duties Does Punk have a right to feel jealous of Miz? Oh course, but it went past that to taking shots at someone who worked hard for that spot. There are different paths to wrestling in the big time than having to start up in shindies Miz also spent the best part of two years on the indies before WWE even looked at him, spent another two years in developmental, and would've been future endeavoured in 2007 if the team with Morrison hadn't gotten over. I'd say his dues were paid. |
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