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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 17, 2018 18:37:35 GMT -5
Either Goldberg winning the title on Nitro or losing it so soon.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Dec 17, 2018 18:44:29 GMT -5
Got to agree with the fingerpoke of doom. If any one thing defines WCW it would be that. The thing I struggle with most is trying to figure out what possible benefit they thought would come from it??? Most bad booking decisions can at least somewhat be argued for if there is a bigger picture (regardless of whether we agree with it). Thinking about it, I think I can see the 'logic' behind the move... making the NWO a complete unit again, thereby keeping it the largest threat and the centre of all the booking again. Of course, that means that the bookers were ignoring the fact that fans were getting tired of the whole thing.
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Post by chazraps on Dec 17, 2018 18:47:02 GMT -5
It’s more like a top 5 than the single worst, but HHH going over Booker in the fashion he did at WM was the summation of a lot of really uncomfortable aspects of the industry, in particular ego and racism. I think you can make a case for this one as the worst as there's really nothing defensible surrounding the logic behind it. Other choices listed it's a result of either squeezing more money out of a storyline or a creative misfire. This boils down to "the racist won the race angle" and that was that. No come-uppins. How was this supposed to help anyone involved or the company in any way?
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Dec 17, 2018 18:53:59 GMT -5
Sting at Starcade was way worse than the Fingerpoke of Doom.
1. The 2nd doesn't happen without the first.
2. You can make an argument that there was logic to the 2nd. Not the best, but you were trying to recapture a storyline that made you the biggest in the world. There was none to the first.
3. Even without the Patrick botch, it did what WCW always did, make the WWF seem like the most important thing in the world;and you allowed what happened in their company to overshadow a build that WCW had been building for a year and a half.
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Post by evilone on Dec 17, 2018 18:56:38 GMT -5
This has to be up there Probably Nash's hardest bumping in his whole career. He hit his had quite hard on the mat to sell stupid poke. Anyway I kind of get what they were going for with the poke, reunion was the only logical choice if they were going to continue to ride nWo. And quite possible it was the only real life possible solution. I doubt that Hogan would have allowed Nash, Bret or anyone else to head nWo while he goes back to yellow and red. How to successfully end nWo storyline that could actually play off well in real life and not just some phantasy booking is probably the greatest booking challenge to date.
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Post by Alexander The So-so on Dec 17, 2018 22:04:05 GMT -5
Some go-to’s like Starrcade 1997 have already been mentioned, so to give one that hasn’t been said yet: Triple H beating Randy Orton at WrestleMania 25.
An absolute waste of the intense heel heat Orton had going at the time; he was on fire with the early incarnation of the Viper character, and really coming off as a sick bastard who could dominate the promotion until he was used to elevate a brand new face (like CM Punk).
Instead, Hunter beats him, the status quo is kept safely intact, and Orton has never come close to getting the kind of heat/reaction he had in the lead up to WM 25.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 17, 2018 22:16:00 GMT -5
I'll go with an underrated one that involves Lesnar and plays into the current day: Lesnar beating Rob Van Dam at KOTR 2002. At the time it really hurt RVD's momentum in order to push a green rookie, and Lesnar at the time ended up being a flash in the pan that left 2 years later. And now of course we still have this Lesnar trash to deal with and it sucks. Nah i'd still put him over RVD 100 out of 100 times
Also eventually RVD showed why he was always looked at as unreliable so yeah give me a green monster Lesnar all day
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 17, 2018 22:21:41 GMT -5
Also I have to agree on Starrcade 97
That set the downfall of everything. From that point on you could that be the downfall of the NWO with them losing a match and have to disband in a War games match. Hogan can eventually turn back face after Hall and Nash blame him for being weak
Sting could have been kept strong with the title and assuming Goldberg still is on a warpath then you eventually put him over as well
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Dec 18, 2018 0:05:46 GMT -5
It didn't destroy business, but in terms of being absolutely baffling, nothing beats Royal Rumble 2015... or the Reigns push by that point overall. It was so unnecessary, so counterproductive, and so outright stupid, it's gotta be up there. It just makes no sense.
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Post by Glitch on Dec 18, 2018 3:15:46 GMT -5
Kurt Angle beating Samoa Joe when all the titles were on the line. Tna basically killed Joe's momentum and had a heel win. The one moment where you could tell that they didn't give a flying f*** about basic storytelling.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2018 5:25:17 GMT -5
Honestly, Nick Gulas trying to push his son as a main eventer has to be one of the worst. George Gulas set in motion one of the biggest coups in wrestling history, by virtue of just being a really dopey guy who fan's didn't think could break an egg. I'll sign off on this. It's on par with old timers booking themselves as main eventers/champions well past their "Best By" date with very little on the undercard.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 18, 2018 5:55:28 GMT -5
David Arquette: World Champion immediately comes to mind. so does "I know what we can replace Austin and The Rock with; NECROPHILIA!"
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Post by segaz on Dec 18, 2018 7:02:17 GMT -5
People seriously do not understand wrestling here.
Starcade 97, while the finish of the match is kinda dumb, how is the NWO continuing one of the worst decisions ever? 98 was huge, people actually LIKED the NWO Wolfpac and even the feud with Warrior.
Fingerpoke of doom: in no way is this the worst booking decision ever. The only people who say it is are ignorant. Again, they had higher ratings for the next few weeks as people WANTED to see this. Yes, people still in 99 wanted to see the NWO. As much as *you and all your friends* didn't, tons more did. Listen to the pop as the NWO beat down Goldberg. What was wrong was the FOLLOW-UP. This itself is not the worst booking position to be in.
Austin turning heel.....I have argued this extensively in a recent thread, but again, I disagree
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2018 11:27:47 GMT -5
It's the Invasion, by far, for me.
Also known as that time that WWE threw away literally the most wanted wrestling angle EVER by making it more McMahon vs. McMahon nonsense instead of just waiting for all of the pieces of the puzzle to become available.
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Post by TGM on Dec 18, 2018 13:07:44 GMT -5
How is it a mistake to continue the NWO after Starrcade 97? The angle had more mileage because of the civil war storyline that sprang up and they must have sold a million Wolfpac t-shirts on the back of this. The match itself was booked poorly and the finish sucked but all the people here claiming WCW should have killed their hottest storyline the night after, just pressing the reset button is kinda lame.
Answer for the OP: the decision to reunite the warring NWO factions under the Wolfpac banner. By this point, it had become more than tedious and wiped away a year of storylines just for a shocking swerve.
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Post by auph10imitated on Dec 18, 2018 13:32:40 GMT -5
The entire mess that was The Invasion
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Post by repomark on Dec 18, 2018 14:18:34 GMT -5
Starrcade 97 is a good answer, but I wonder if that is not about how it was booked but how it was executed? Had it happened the way it was booked to - i.e. a clear fast count and Bret restarting the match, then Sting winning with the Scopion deathlock - it would have been just fine. The booking of Sting thereafter and having him drop it back to Hogan is worse in many ways.
Austin turning heel in 2001 is my personal answer though. Just the wrong time, and they had to go too far against character for it to make any sense just to try and get any boos.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Dec 18, 2018 20:02:43 GMT -5
How is it a mistake to continue the NWO after Starrcade 97? The angle had more mileage because of the civil war storyline that sprang up and they must have sold a million Wolfpac t-shirts on the back of this. The match itself was booked poorly and the finish sucked but all the people here claiming WCW should have killed their hottest storyline the night after, just pressing the reset button is kinda lame. Answer for the OP: the decision to reunite the warring NWO factions under the Wolfpac banner. By this point, it had become more than tedious and wiped away a year of storylines just for a shocking swerve. I agree. The NWO was the biggest thing wrestling had seen for years by the end of 97. They would’ve been fools to end it. Turning the Wolfpac, who had become second to Steve Austin the biggest babyfaces in wrestling, was much more damaging.
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Dec 18, 2018 20:12:46 GMT -5
HHH beating Booker T wrestlmania 19
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Dec 18, 2018 22:45:28 GMT -5
Nash ending Goldberg’s streak. Nash didn’t need it, the whole match was a clusterf*** and it pretty much went nowhere. Just plain stupid.
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