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Post by Casey Jones on Jan 9, 2022 12:56:19 GMT -5
That's one of my few complaints of the female movie. I feel if they acknowledged the old team instead of acting as the first group to bust ghosts it would have had a better response. That, and if it made any attempt to capture the spirit (f*** me, that pun is not intended) of the originals. Instead we got a generic, middle of the road mid 2010’s comedy with the GB logo slapped on it. But only women hating racists don’t like that movie according to Paul Feig. Side note, I still haven’t seen the new one but everyone I’ve talked to says it makes an honest effort to be a Ghostbusters movie. Side note 2, Kate McKinnon as Holtzmann is by far the best part of Answer the Call. I would’ve had zero issues if they decided to Spiderverse this shit and find a way to drag her to the proper GB reality. She was genuinely funny in that, so was Thor. The rest of the movie was average as f*** unless you enjoy stereotypical “hey, I’m a fat black lady from the street who’s so sassy!!” Sorta humor. EDIT: Which is ironic given the criticisms of critics from Paul Feig, I felt Leslie Jones character was racist as f*** just like most of her roles on SNL (which she openly complained about yet she also complained only racist woman haters hate GB16) I actually enjoy Answer the call. But I also understand why people don't. I'll agree that McKinnon is the best part of the movie. But I'll also admit, when watching it again last week. I found myself just waiting for the parts I enjoy.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 9, 2022 13:21:15 GMT -5
That, and if it made any attempt to capture the spirit (f*** me, that pun is not intended) of the originals. Instead we got a generic, middle of the road mid 2010’s comedy with the GB logo slapped on it. But only women hating racists don’t like that movie according to Paul Feig. Side note, I still haven’t seen the new one but everyone I’ve talked to says it makes an honest effort to be a Ghostbusters movie. Side note 2, Kate McKinnon as Holtzmann is by far the best part of Answer the Call. I would’ve had zero issues if they decided to Spiderverse this shit and find a way to drag her to the proper GB reality. She was genuinely funny in that, so was Thor. The rest of the movie was average as f*** unless you enjoy stereotypical “hey, I’m a fat black lady from the street who’s so sassy!!” Sorta humor. EDIT: Which is ironic given the criticisms of critics from Paul Feig, I felt Leslie Jones character was racist as f*** just like most of her roles on SNL (which she openly complained about yet she also complained only racist woman haters hate GB16) I actually enjoy Answer the call. But I also understand why people don't. I'll agree that McKinnon is the best part of the movie. But I'll also admit, when watching it again last week. I found myself just waiting for the parts I enjoy. I didn’t hate it by any means, I just found it very average from a general point of view and very disappointing from a lifelong Ghostbusters fan point of view.
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Post by Casey Jones on Jan 9, 2022 13:27:21 GMT -5
I actually enjoy Answer the call. But I also understand why people don't. I'll agree that McKinnon is the best part of the movie. But I'll also admit, when watching it again last week. I found myself just waiting for the parts I enjoy. I didn’t hate it by any means, I just found it very average from a general point of view and very disappointing from a lifelong Ghostbusters fan point of view. Oh, I hear you there. I felt it would be wrong as a GB fan to not watch it. I knew it wasn't going to be hit. But I liked it more than I expected. They did do one thing I always wanted to see. Even as a kid I wondered why Stay Puft wasn't the ghost from the logo. So I liked seeing that character interact with the busters.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 9, 2022 14:39:17 GMT -5
I didn’t hate it by any means, I just found it very average from a general point of view and very disappointing from a lifelong Ghostbusters fan point of view. Oh, I hear you there. I felt it would be wrong as a GB fan to not watch it. I knew it wasn't going to be hit. But I liked it more than I expected. They did do one thing I always wanted to see. Even as a kid I wondered why Stay Puft wasn't the ghost from the logo. So I liked seeing that character interact with the busters. As someone who got up at 5am Christmas 1989 to play with his Ghostbusters toys (Spengler, Venkman and the Ecto 1) I did appreciate them bringing the actual logo ghost into things
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 12, 2022 22:11:58 GMT -5
Watched it this evening and really enjoyed it. Definitely skews towards vintage Spielbergian tone in comparison to the first two movies, but it was more than charming enough. {Spoiler}The setup of Egon spending 25+ years as a recluse preparing for Gozer's return is pretty dark and depressing, but the payoff at the end made it work, and they used the original 'Busters perfectly.
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Post by Casey Jones on Jan 13, 2022 12:10:56 GMT -5
I just realized something.
Gb2 was 31 years ago. Egon's daughter is definitely older than 31. Than means Egon was a dad the last time we saw him. But the only relationship that was mentioned was him and the slime.
Is Callies mother the cup of slime?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 13, 2022 13:10:24 GMT -5
I just realized something. Gb2 was 31 years ago. Egon's daughter is definitely older than 31. Than means Egon was a dad the last time we saw him. But the only relationship that was mentioned was him and the slime. Is Callies mother the cup of slime? There's a photo on Egon's wall of Callie in 1983, looking to be around a year old, so she was born at least two years prior to the first movie. Still, it's weird to think that of all the Ghostbusters it was Egon who actually fathered a child.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 13, 2022 13:22:26 GMT -5
I just realized something. Gb2 was 31 years ago. Egon's daughter is definitely older than 31. Than means Egon was a dad the last time we saw him. But the only relationship that was mentioned was him and the slime. Is Callies mother the cup of slime? There's a photo on Egon's wall of Callie in 1983, looking to be around a year old, so she was born at least two years prior to the first movie. Still, it's weird to think that of all the Ghostbusters it was Egon who actually fathered a child. I think it makes sense. Because of all the old Ghostbusters, Egon would be the one that would never bring up being a dad in the first two movies unless somebody specifically asked him if he was one. Why? Because it wouldn't ever be relevant information to the task at hand. And that's assuming he knew he had a kid at that point in time during the first two movies. Egon was a "strange" enough personality and obviously went to college long enough (looks like he had like a dozen degrees on the wall) that he should have ran into at least a couple chicks that wanted his Spore/Mold/Fungi Loving Spanglercock. If for no other reason it would be a gold digging "Oh you are a Doctor? Make love to me!" shallow type. Watching the movie I assumed his daughter grew up with a single mother. The mother probably reached out to Egon later on after the second movie.
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Post by mrtuesday on Jan 13, 2022 13:28:17 GMT -5
Egon already having a kid would explain why Janine eventually moved on and hooked up with Louis in GB2.
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Post by Casey Jones on Jan 13, 2022 16:17:13 GMT -5
There's a photo on Egon's wall of Callie in 1983, looking to be around a year old, so she was born at least two years prior to the first movie. Still, it's weird to think that of all the Ghostbusters it was Egon who actually fathered a child. I think it makes sense. Because of all the old Ghostbusters, Egon would be the one that would never bring up being a dad in the first two movies unless somebody specifically asked him if he was one. Why? Because it wouldn't ever be relevant information to the task at hand. And that's assuming he knew he had a kid at that point in time during the first two movies. Egon was a "strange" enough personality and obviously went to college long enough (looks like he had like a dozen degrees on the wall) that he should have ran into at least a couple chicks that wanted his Spore/Mold/Fungi Loving Spanglercock. If for no other reason it would be a gold digging "Oh you are a Doctor? Make love to me!" shallow type. Watching the movie I assumed his daughter grew up with a single mother. The mother probably reached out to Egon later on after the second movie. Makes total sense. I say they would have made the new character a grandchild of any of the busters if they had passed IRL. It's just weird that the timeline means He would have been a dad in the last movie.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 13, 2022 19:25:46 GMT -5
There's a photo on Egon's wall of Callie in 1983, looking to be around a year old, so she was born at least two years prior to the first movie. Still, it's weird to think that of all the Ghostbusters it was Egon who actually fathered a child. I think it makes sense. Because of all the old Ghostbusters, Egon would be the one that would never bring up being a dad in the first two movies unless somebody specifically asked him if he was one. Why? Because it wouldn't ever be relevant information to the task at hand. And that's assuming he knew he had a kid at that point in time during the first two movies. Egon was a "strange" enough personality and obviously went to college long enough (looks like he had like a dozen degrees on the wall) that he should have ran into at least a couple chicks that wanted his Spore/Mold/Fungi Loving Spanglercock. If for no other reason it would be a gold digging "Oh you are a Doctor? Make love to me!" shallow type. Watching the movie I assumed his daughter grew up with a single mother. The mother probably reached out to Egon later on after the second movie. Egon even makes a joke in the second movie about women loving his epididymis. >_>
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 14, 2022 21:51:12 GMT -5
I can't believe how much I ended up enjoying it and how much of an emotionally satisfying the last 10 min were
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Post by cosmo on Jan 14, 2022 22:37:07 GMT -5
I think it makes sense. Because of all the old Ghostbusters, Egon would be the one that would never bring up being a dad in the first two movies unless somebody specifically asked him if he was one. Why? Because it wouldn't ever be relevant information to the task at hand. And that's assuming he knew he had a kid at that point in time during the first two movies. Egon was a "strange" enough personality and obviously went to college long enough (looks like he had like a dozen degrees on the wall) that he should have ran into at least a couple chicks that wanted his Spore/Mold/Fungi Loving Spanglercock. If for no other reason it would be a gold digging "Oh you are a Doctor? Make love to me!" shallow type. Watching the movie I assumed his daughter grew up with a single mother. The mother probably reached out to Egon later on after the second movie. Makes total sense. I say they would have made the new character a grandchild of any of the busters if they had passed IRL. It's just weird that the timeline means He would have been a dad in the last movie.
Seeing this post, the thought crossed my mind that if Bill Murray had died, maybe the movie would've been about Dana's son Oscar and his family. My idea would be that Peter would have become his stepfather after GB2 and Oscar would've treated him like he were his real father.
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Post by Casey Jones on Jan 14, 2022 23:23:34 GMT -5
Makes total sense. I say they would have made the new character a grandchild of any of the busters if they had passed IRL. It's just weird that the timeline means He would have been a dad in the last movie.
Seeing this post, the thought crossed my mind that if Bill Murray had died, maybe the movie would've been about Dana's son Oscar and his family. My idea would be that Peter would have become his stepfather after GB2 and Oscar would've treated him like he were his real father.
This was the story I thought they were going to go with when I first heard the news. But I'm happy with what we got
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Post by hassanchop on Jan 27, 2022 0:01:10 GMT -5
Shaman King characters talk about the movie. I wonder what the cast of Yu Yu Hakusho or Bleach say about the movie.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 27, 2022 0:39:06 GMT -5
Makes total sense. I say they would have made the new character a grandchild of any of the busters if they had passed IRL. It's just weird that the timeline means He would have been a dad in the last movie. Seeing this post, the thought crossed my mind that if Bill Murray had died, maybe the movie would've been about Dana's son Oscar and his family. My idea would be that Peter would have become his stepfather after GB2 and Oscar would've treated him like he were his real father.
It’s not the world’s worst idea but it would shine a light on Venkman in a #metoo world and that’s not great.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 2, 2022 1:58:32 GMT -5
I think personally that 2016 Ghostbusters could have been pulled off better if it came after this and played off of the second credits scene setup instead of just taking place in a completely different universe where the first two movies never happened. Just another team in Winston’s Ghostbuster empire. Wasn’t that the basic idea they had when creating the “Ghost Corps” brand anyways?
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Post by mrtuesday on Feb 2, 2022 2:05:48 GMT -5
Makes total sense. I say they would have made the new character a grandchild of any of the busters if they had passed IRL. It's just weird that the timeline means He would have been a dad in the last movie. Seeing this post, the thought crossed my mind that if Bill Murray had died, maybe the movie would've been about Dana's son Oscar and his family. My idea would be that Peter would have become his stepfather after GB2 and Oscar would've treated him like he were his real father.
Oscar would be in his mid-30's by now. And Jason Reitman wanted to focus on a team of young Ghostbusters. Maybe if the main focus was Oscar's kids, you would be on to something.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 2, 2022 3:53:16 GMT -5
I think personally that 2016 Ghostbusters could have been pulled off better if it came after this and played off of the second credits scene setup instead of just taking place in a completely different universe where the first two movies never happened. Just another team in Winston’s Ghostbuster empire. Wasn’t that the basic idea they had when creating the “Ghost Corps” brand anyways? It was, yeah. And it definitely could have worked that way, though I still feel that the slapstick humour would've needed toning way down.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Feb 2, 2022 8:19:19 GMT -5
Seeing this post, the thought crossed my mind that if Bill Murray had died, maybe the movie would've been about Dana's son Oscar and his family. My idea would be that Peter would have become his stepfather after GB2 and Oscar would've treated him like he were his real father.
Oscar would be in his mid-30's by now. And Jason Reitman wanted to focus on a team of young Ghostbusters. Maybe if the main focus was Oscar's kids, you would be on to something. My idea for Oscar was a post-credit scene. There's a knock on the door at the farmhouse, the Mom opens it up, finds two Men in Black-looking people there - Oscar: Hello Ms. Spengler, my name is Oscar Barrett, this is my partner Kylie Griffin. Kylie: We were sent by Ray Stantz, we were hoping to talk to your daughter.
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