R Kelly Sentenced To 30 Yrs (PG 30)

[thegatewaydrug]

Jan 17, 2019 17:19:29 GMT -5 Limity (BLM) said:

For those that know, was there ever any reaction or fallout about that Boondocks episode? Or the fact that the episode talked about it, but more used it as a jumping off platform for other things, kept it off the radar?

As to R Kelly confronting Dave Chappelle, who does Ja Rule side with?

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EDIT: Breaking the embed for the f-bomb in the title.

[Shai]

This whole thing trips me the f**k out. I am 37 years old. I remember having conversations about R Kelly being this way in like 7th or 8th grade?

It's sick that all this went on in pretty much plain f**king sight for all this time.

[Ryback on a Pole!]

Jan 17, 2019 12:32:17 GMT -5 Confused Mark Wahlberg said:

I guess this is the part where everyone who collaborated with him and made money with him pretends to be shocked and aghast

This really angers me with the entertainment business.

I knew what he was like back in 2002 when the video surfaced. Yet people in the business (Hi, Lady Gaga) still worked with him.

Or Roman Polanski, raped a kid, fled to avoid charges yet people still star in his movies or cheer when he gets an award, then have the audacity to wear a Times Up badge 6 months later.

No, Meryl. If you oppose sexual assaults you don't keep up cheering when your child raping friend gets an award.

[Ben Wyatt]

Jan 17, 2019 18:53:33 GMT -5 Ryback on a Pole! said:

Jan 17, 2019 12:32:17 GMT -5 Confused Mark Wahlberg said:

I guess this is the part where everyone who collaborated with him and made money with him pretends to be shocked and aghast

This really angers me with the entertainment business.

I knew what he was like back in 2002 when the video surfaced. Yet people in the business (Hi, Lady Gaga) still worked with him.

Or Roman Polanski, raped a kid, fled to avoid charges yet people still star in his movies or cheer when he gets an award, then have the audacity to wear a Times Up badge 6 months later.

No, Meryl. If you oppose sexual assaults you don't keep up cheering when your child raping friend gets an award.

Oh, Meryl also loved herself some Weinstein, too.

["Magic" Mark Hurr]

Jan 17, 2019 18:38:02 GMT -5 Shai said:

This whole thing trips me the f**k out. I am 37 years old. I remember having conversations about R Kelly being this way in like 7th or 8th grade?

It's sick that all this went on in pretty much plain f**king sight for all this time.

I'm about the same age. I remember the same thing while knowing chicks who had older boyfriends. So many times it felt like the ones who thought something was wrong were treated like they were talking crazy. The Aaliyah time was crazy. When the tapes was leaked it was crazy. When they said they found more tapes, but couldn't use them in court was crazy. Actually knowing chicks were approached by him was and still is us crazy. Knowing people in or around the music business who have stories is crazy.

I mean I've had a conversation with a woman younger than me, by was younger when he tried to get at her when she worked at McDonalds. It went from her not really trying to hear what I was saying about what could have happened to her being in disbelief when I pulled up several thing to back my side of the argument up. Not the sex tape, but stuff I could find before this docuseries came out.

His career, like many other entertainers, should have been over. But it's the cult of personality like many have said.

[Mozenrath]

I remember years ago, someone tweeting at him, "On a scale of 1 to 10, how old is your girlfriend?"

It's plain gross how many people have worked with him who knew the rumors and did it, anyway. I have similar issues with Bryan Singer, but R. Kelly's on a whole other level of, "where there's smoke..."

[Deleted]

I was never a huge fan, but liked a few songs. Then the video surfaced but the whole thing didn't receive nearly as much coverage in the UK. I remember thinking, okay, I'm done.

THEN Ignition came out and was a huge hit and I remember feeling a bit like Mugatu taking crazy pills because people went wild for a song that aside from being terrible had the lyrics "go up to your room and **** somebody" which is what the video apparently showed and it just sickened me.

He basically did consensual penis while Enzo was just in training to become a terrible person.

[BrodietheSlayer]

Jan 17, 2019 18:53:33 GMT -5 Ryback on a Pole! said:

Jan 17, 2019 12:32:17 GMT -5 Confused Mark Wahlberg said:

I guess this is the part where everyone who collaborated with him and made money with him pretends to be shocked and aghast

This really angers me with the entertainment business.

I knew what he was like back in 2002 when the video surfaced. Yet people in the business (Hi, Lady Gaga) still worked with him.

Or Roman Polanski, raped a kid, fled to avoid charges yet people still star in his movies or cheer when he gets an award, then have the audacity to wear a Times Up badge 6 months later.

No, Meryl. If you oppose sexual assaults you don't keep up cheering when your child raping friend gets an award.

Probably somewhat explains why this all has been allowed to go on...





(The full movie is definitely worth checking out; very eye opening )

[Ryback on a Pole!]

Jan 18, 2019 2:02:38 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

I remember years ago, someone tweeting at him, "On a scale of 1 to 10, how old is your girlfriend?"

It's plain gross how many people have worked with him who knew the rumors and did it, anyway. I have similar issues with Bryan Singer, but R. Kelly's on a whole other level of, "where there's smoke..."

Whoa, wait. Bryan Singer has been at it? The Bryan Singer?

[Ryback on a Pole!]

Shit... I just read the Singer stuff. No way do you have that much smoke without a fire.

Everyone who has worked with the guy since the more recent allegations needs to hand their Times Up badge in.

Disgusting. I like to think if I was an actor id refuse to work with anyone if there's the slightest whiff that they've been sexually assaulting kids. The Singer stuff has made my skin crawl.

[Dat Dude]

I watched the whole thing, the last episode was the toughest to watch. Was disappointed that they had Charlemagne and Budden on there to comment, considering they’ve had their own problematic history with women and abuse/misogyny.

[Confused Mark Wahlberg]

I guess I don't know why people who were already huge stars would even think about collaborating with him. It's not like they needed the exposure.

Any money you would get is not worth potentially alienating your fanbase, but what do I know.

[Fade]

Jan 18, 2019 12:07:28 GMT -5 Dat Dude said:

I watched the whole thing, the last episode was the toughest to watch. Was disappointed that they had Charlemagne and Budden on there to comment, considering they’ve had their own problematic history with women and abuse/misogyny.

Charlemagne admitted to date-raping a girl. Look it up. It’s there. And yet there’s another perfect example of “Wait, what?” where no one brings it up.

Singer and Dan Schneider are two big “there’s a lot of smoke..” cases out there today.

[The Captain]

That's the thing I don't get with Kelly either. At least with other cases, there is some plausible deniability because it sort of gets lost in the scuttlebutt. With R. Kelly, everyone's known about this shit for years, including some actual smoking gun-type stuff, both within and without the entertainment industry.

[Confused Mark Wahlberg]

variety.com/2019/biz/news/r-kelly-dropped-sony-music-1203106180/

Sony Music has decided to dissolve its working relationship with R. Kelly, Variety has learned.

No external announcement of the move is planned in the immediate future, says a source, who added that the company took its time to wade through the issues “responsibly” and avoid legal ramifications. R. Kelly was removed from the RCA Records website, which lists the label’s signed artists, shortly after 10 a.m. PT on Friday, Jan. 18.

Kelly’s back catalog will remain with RCA/Sony. Kelly’s last release with the label was a Christmas-themed album in 2016, although he has released several songs independently since that time, presumably with Sony’s consent, and Tweeted earlier this year that he has a new album on the way.

[Ben Wyatt]

Jan 18, 2019 14:17:37 GMT -5 The Captain said:

That's the thing I don't get with Kelly either. At least with other cases, there is some plausible deniability because it sort of gets lost in the scuttlebutt. With R. Kelly, everyone's known about this shit for years, including some actual smoking gun-type stuff, both within and without the entertainment industry.

 Chris Rock (I might be paraphrasing a bit) "Get the f*** out of here. It's YOU on the tape. We *know* what you look like!"

[Alice Syndrome]

Jan 17, 2019 18:38:02 GMT -5 Shai said:

This whole thing trips me the f**k out. I am 37 years old. I remember having conversations about R Kelly being this way in like 7th or 8th grade?

It's sick that all this went on in pretty much plain f**king sight for all this time.

I know a similar feeling. The guy from that band Blood on the Dance Floor is known almost exclusively among people who liked the same music as me growing up for the fact that he takes fans as young as 12 onto his tour bus and rapes them. This has been going on for at least 10 years, but it only started getting reported anywhere last year after the William Control sex cult thing came out.

[I'm Team Bayley and Indi]

Couple of directors have come up but another name who even still seems to be working is Victor Salva, who committed an horrible act in 1989 and worked on projects since including even with Disney, he is best known for the Jeepers Creepers movie

[Pure Fusion Jesse Walsh]

The Chapelle skit did a lot to normalize his behavior by turning the whole thing into a punchline instead of treating it with the grave seriousness it deserved. It trivialized the situation by making it seem like R. Kelly was just into kinky stuff when he was really an abusive piece of shit.

What's even more baffling about the Lady Gaga situation is that there's a version of the same song with Christina Aguilera which puts the lyrics far more into a feminist context and could've been promoted instead. Also, I'm 26 now and for every time I feel like a failure, at least I have her and Lars Sullivan around to prove I could do much worse at this age.

[King Boo]

Jan 18, 2019 15:04:00 GMT -5 Pure Fusion Jesse Walsh said:

The Chapelle skit did a lot to normalize his behavior by turning the whole thing into a punchline instead of treating it with the grave seriousness it deserved. It trivialized the situation by making it seem like R. Kelly was just into kinky stuff when he was really an abusive piece of shit.

One thing that really stood out to me was when one girl's parents had their reservations but quelled them with the fact that he was found not guilty in his court case.

More than that verdict meaning he wouldn't be punished and the women he hurt were denied justice, it created a situation where people trusted he was safe to be around after all. So not only did it fail those victims, it actively assisted R. Kelly in creating new ones.

Sinful.