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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 23:22:17 GMT -5
Bruh, this is what I think with every single call-up. I don't know how Trips does it because I know for a fact that I would have gone off on Vince years ago. Trips just sees it happen, does his best, Vince f***s up and Trips continues to work, just keeps on pushing and it's just, wow. The patience of this guy is unreal. He's sending his children away to their grandfather who never goes to see them. It's sad. HHH had to deal with the Kliq and babysit them through being drugged up and drunken idiots, all while furthering his career and keeping himself sober. Dude is used to chaos surrounding him and having to be the resilient pillar through it all. Very true. He had to deal with that MSG incident, he's had to deal with a lot over the years. I couldn't do it. Just, wow. |
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Post by King Boo on Feb 20, 2019 23:26:46 GMT -5
The fact that they think to look to NXT for "undamaged goods" without realizing why all the undamaged goods are there is hilarious to me.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 20, 2019 23:33:10 GMT -5
Bruh, this is what I think with every single call-up. I don't know how Trips does it because I know for a fact that I would have gone off on Vince years ago. Trips just sees it happen, does his best, Vince f***s up and Trips continues to work, just keeps on pushing and it's just, wow. The patience of this guy is unreal. He's sending his children away to their grandfather who never goes to see them. It's sad. HHH had to deal with the Kliq and babysit them through being drugged up and drunken idiots, all while furthering his career and keeping himself sober. Dude is used to chaos surrounding him and having to be the resilient pillar through it all. Yeah, Triple H has kept his head low and his mouth shut through a lot of shit, and kept his vision the focus of everything with a strength that tells me he knows there's no use in fighting it right now, that Vince is going to be Vince and until he's no longer in that position, there is only so much he can do. So he picks his spots, fights for the small shit when he can get it, and builds his vision in the meantime. He knows the present is a wash, but he also knows that the future is one where he can have that spot and he can do what he wants to do, and I think that's what keeps him patiently waiting for his time. Better to lay the groundwork he needs than to go pissing everything away |
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Post by Abdullah on Feb 21, 2019 4:31:47 GMT -5
If there's one positive about WWE creative being so bad, and WWE signing wrestlers that are so good, it's that the tendency of online fans to blame talent has decreased significantly in even just the past few years. I'm reading this thread, and checking out Reddit, and the consensus is that WWE itself is broken.
Not a fun consensus but a fair one.
I absolutely think there is a place for comparing talent, for debating strengths and weaknesses of this guy or that, but when the creative process is so stifling and so limiting... that's hard to do.
WWE, right now, is a company that will very likely water down matches (Ambrose/Rollins, Bryan/Styles) that don't fit into their grand plan for a show. They're saying which matches will be good and which matches won't. In that environment, I don't think it's always possible to evaluate the roster. The roster, top to bottom, is being handcuffed more than ever before.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 21, 2019 5:28:41 GMT -5
I hope the new tv deals have ratings performance clauses, otherwise nothing will change for the better, just quick fixes.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Feb 21, 2019 10:00:17 GMT -5
If there's one positive about WWE creative being so bad, and WWE signing wrestlers that are so good, it's that the tendency of online fans to blame talent has decreased significantly in even just the past few years. I'm reading this thread, and checking out Reddit, and the consensus is that WWE itself is broken. Not a fun consensus but a fair one. I absolutely think there is a place for comparing talent, for debating strengths and weaknesses of this guy or that, but when the creative process is so stifling and so limiting... that's hard to do. WWE, right now, is a company that will very likely water down matches (Ambrose/Rollins, Bryan/Styles) that don't fit into their grand plan for a show. They're saying which matches will be good and which matches won't. In that environment, I don't think it's always possible to evaluate the roster. The roster, top to bottom, is being handcuffed more than ever before. I mean there are people that just kinda are weak in some areas like promos and stuff like that. But there’s just sooo much talent that does well when you play to their strengths, not just in NXT but other promotions as well, but then either does terribly or just flat out isn’t used at all on the main roster. Some of them might actually kinda suck, but a majority of them don’t. |
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Feb 21, 2019 11:05:56 GMT -5
And like, it's one thing when your roster is kinda buns and you just don't have much talent.
WWE hasn't been like that in a long long time. They have more talent under their banner than literally any other point in history and look what they've done with it.
As Childish Gambino said, "yeah, you got some silverware but really, are you eating tho?"
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Post by Dub H on Feb 21, 2019 11:27:11 GMT -5
Bruh, this is what I think with every single call-up. I don't know how Trips does it because I know for a fact that I would have gone off on Vince years ago. Trips just sees it happen, does his best, Vince f***s up and Trips continues to work, just keeps on pushing and it's just, wow. The patience of this guy is unreal. He's sending his children away to their grandfather who never goes to see them. It's sad. HHH had to deal with the Kliq and babysit them through being drugged up and drunken idiots, all while furthering his career and keeping himself sober. Dude is used to chaos surrounding him and having to be the resilient pillar through it all. Is dealing with the Kliq worth using then to further your career? I wouldnt last 10 minutes with then before calling the police myself or just leaving  |
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Post by lionheart21 on Feb 21, 2019 11:45:38 GMT -5
"He added later that Vince feels like the reason the ratings are down is that the shows lack stars, but that most of the guys on the roster are already too damaged to be built back up all the way. So they brought up these four NXT guys to push super hard right out of the gate and make them stars."  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 16:15:49 GMT -5
"He added later that Vince feels like the reason the ratings are down is that the shows lack stars, but that most of the guys on the roster are already too damaged to be built back up all the way. So they brought up these four NXT guys to push super hard right out of the gate and make them stars." Cody's actually an excellent example of the problem with this line of thinking. Guy had been reduced to being a complete jobber doing a bad Goldust ripoff, and if WWE had their way that's still all he would be. Yet he decided to leave and not only showed that he has a lot more to offer and can attract a following, he's shown it to the point he's basically kickstarted the closest thing WWE has to domestic competition. |
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Post by lionheart21 on Feb 21, 2019 16:41:56 GMT -5
"He added later that Vince feels like the reason the ratings are down is that the shows lack stars, but that most of the guys on the roster are already too damaged to be built back up all the way. So they brought up these four NXT guys to push super hard right out of the gate and make them stars." Cody's actually an excellent example of the problem with this line of thinking. Guy had been reduced to being a complete jobber doing a bad Goldust ripoff, and if WWE had their way that's still all he would be. Yet he decided to leave and not only showed that he has a lot more to offer and can attract a following, he's shown it to the point he's basically kickstarted the closest thing WWE has to domestic competition. True, but I was thinking more along the lines of Vince believing that most of the main roster guys are "damaged goods." When you have a hot commodity like AEW grabbing up talent and preparing for their inaugural show, the last thing that you wanna do is say something like that, since those "damaged goods" are gonna hear that and might wanna try their luck elsewhere (one example being Tye Dillinger), and that also goes for people currently on WWE's radar that have yet to sign. |
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