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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Feb 20, 2019 17:48:01 GMT -5
I hope she isn’t given too much of a hard time for that though.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Feb 20, 2019 17:48:10 GMT -5
Becky and Charlotte are no brainers but Lacey is a head scratcher. If they want another hot blonde why not just go with Mandy who is better in the ring, more attractive, and has had more time on the main roster. Even though the Women's division has been strong lately it does show that when you get down to it when it comes to people they can build things around it is lacking in depth after Becky and Charlotte.
If your going by women that have talent and marketability Asuka, Sasha, and Alexa would all be good choices but unfortunately those three all have big drawbacks that probably make them leery of going too far with them. Those being age and promo skills for Asuka and durability for the other two. It is surprising how much they've cooled their jets on Alexa who they've clearly always liked a lot. It does seem with her recent injuries they've lost a lot of trust in her as even after she's been cleared she's hardly wrestled at all other then the Rumble and that one tag match on Raw. It is surprising to see her not even in their top three anymore as a year ago she probably would've been their number one or at the least number 2 after Charlotte.
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Feb 20, 2019 17:49:12 GMT -5
But seriously, Vince will change his mind twice before the end of this sentence.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 17:52:13 GMT -5
It is surprising how much they've cooled their jets on Alexa who they've clearly always liked a lot. It does seem with her recent injuries they've lost a lot of trust in her as even after she's been cleared she's hardly wrestled at all other then the Rumble and that one tag match on Raw. It is surprising to see her not even in their top three anymore as a year ago she probably would've been their number one or at the least number 2 after Charlotte. Well, that's what she gets for having the unmitigated gall to get injured by Ronda! You get a megapush and then go and have someone else dump you on your head. The nerve!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 17:55:50 GMT -5
It is surprising how much they've cooled their jets on Alexa who they've clearly always liked a lot. It does seem with her recent injuries they've lost a lot of trust in her as even after she's been cleared she's hardly wrestled at all other then the Rumble and that one tag match on Raw. It is surprising to see her not even in their top three anymore as a year ago she probably would've been their number one or at the least number 2 after Charlotte. Well, that's what she gets for having the unmitigated gall to get injured by Ronda! You get a megapush and then go and have someone else dump you on your head. The nerve! Pretty sure they’re only taking precautions for her own safety.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 17:57:46 GMT -5
Pretty sure they’re only taking precautions for her own safety. You’re almost certainly right, I just felt like being snarky.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 20, 2019 17:59:13 GMT -5
I know Ronda was a bit shit, but jeez, are we sure a stable called Big Cocks Limited is really a suitable replacement? It will be when Terry Taylor comes back to manage them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 17:59:22 GMT -5
Pretty sure they’re only taking precautions for her own safety. You’re almost certainly right, I just felt like being snarky. Fair. This is the same man who thinks sneezing is some sort of cardinal sin and deadass put an invisible force field around himself lmao
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Feb 20, 2019 18:02:29 GMT -5
Becky and Charlotte are no brainers but Lacey is a head scratcher. If they want another hot blonde why not just go with Mandy who is better in the ring, and has had more time on the main roster. Mandy doesn't have an easily exploitable background story
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 20, 2019 18:06:07 GMT -5
I do think some people are being too harsh on Evans. Yea she was not great at the rumble but that can happen to anybody I can understand nerves getting in the way. Maybe in a couple of months, she will come off as a top tier talent. Won't be the first or last time a wrestler improves from a bad first impression. Supposedly her dark matches with Natalya have been good, so there’s that. I have no doubt that she’ll improve and be a damn good talent. That being said, it’s just a bit too soon for my liking. The segments they have her doing are doing her no favors at all. But, I’m sure I’ll come around to her eventually. But yeah, people are admittedly jumping the gun a bit too soon considering she’s had no main roster matches to really prove if she can hang and we have no clue when this push is going to begin or if it’ll even lead to anything. Remember the Lana push? The Lana push ended the moment she actually started wrestling. The crowd was white hot for her to even get in the ring... and then she got tagged in and you can tell immediately when the crowd realized what they were asking for >_>
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 20, 2019 18:07:15 GMT -5
Man, I get her story's big and they could try to make something out of that, but. What the hell good is starting her up as a heel if you want to push her as the ultimate persevering babyface family woman? Where's the gain in this bizarre gimmick of walking out then walking back in where seemingly they're trying to set up some kind of big hype for when she actually does anything, knowing she's not a strong enough performer to just completely shock everyone when she comes out and does something? This whole thing is weird and backwards, but for as much as the contradictions and ways they're undermining the idea should mean this should be taken with a grain of salt instead I'm feeling like nope that's Vince booking in a goddamn nutshell.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Feb 20, 2019 18:08:17 GMT -5
Supposedly her dark matches with Natalya have been good, so there’s that. I have no doubt that she’ll improve and be a damn good talent. That being said, it’s just a bit too soon for my liking. The segments they have her doing are doing her no favors at all. But, I’m sure I’ll come around to her eventually. But yeah, people are admittedly jumping the gun a bit too soon considering she’s had no main roster matches to really prove if she can hang and we have no clue when this push is going to begin or if it’ll even lead to anything. Remember the Lana push? The Lana push ended the moment she actually started wrestling. The crowd was white hot for her to even get in the ring... and then she got tagged in and you can tell immediately when the crowd realized what they were asking for >_> Odd to think that with that in mind Lana's closest comparison is 911 from ECW
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 18:11:26 GMT -5
Man, I get her story's big and they could try to make something out of that, but. What the hell good is starting her up as a heel if you want to push her as the ultimate persevering babyface family woman? Where's the gain in this bizarre gimmick of walking out then walking back in where seemingly they're trying to set up some kind of big hype for when she actually does anything, knowing she's not a strong enough performer to just completely shock everyone when she comes out and does something? This whole thing is weird and backwards, but for as much as the contradictions and ways they're undermining the idea should mean this should be taken with a grain of salt instead I'm feeling like nope that's Vince booking in a goddamn nutshell. I think they've realized that they're better at building heels rather than building babyfaces. Heels have it easier. They win matches. They say what they want and when they turn face it goes well for them. I think this dates back to Austin and Rock because those 2 are the biggest examples. These past 6 years though, that's something that they abuse. Unless you're someone like a "Mysterio-like babyface" ala a Ricochet or an Ali, unless you can pull off the underdog mentality you'll likely be a heel. It's weird because that was Alexa's whole thing and yet Alexa hasn't been a face since she's been on the main roster.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Feb 20, 2019 18:30:13 GMT -5
Becky and Charlotte are no brainers but Lacey is a head scratcher. If they want another hot blonde why not just go with Mandy who is better in the ring, and has had more time on the main roster. Mandy doesn't have an easily exploitable background story Thing is though is that they're not even taking advantage of Lacey's background anyways because they have her as a heel so there's nothing they can exploit. If she was a babyface they could exploit her background and have video packages talking about her being a mother and being in the military and could get crowd support. Seemed like it would've been a natural to cast her as a face. However instead they have her as a bitchy blonde heel because they obviously don't have enough of those. Seriously other then Natalya is there any blonde women that are babyfaces now?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 20, 2019 18:34:34 GMT -5
Mandy doesn't have an easily exploitable background story Thing is though is that they're not even taking advantage of Lacey's background anyways because they have her as a heel so there's nothing they can exploit. If she was a babyface they could exploit her background and have video packages talking about her being a mother and being in the military and could get crowd support. Seemed like it would've been a natural to cast her as a face. However instead they have her as a bitchy blonde heel because they obviously don't have enough of those. Seriously other then Natalya is there any blonde women that are babyfaces now? Rousey, I suppose. She usually doesn’t get lumped in with the “blonde model type that can’t work” crowd because her background is legit sports, not modelling.
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Post by MrElijah on Feb 20, 2019 18:42:11 GMT -5
I know Ronda was a bit shit, but jeez, are we sure a stable called Big Cocks Limited is really a suitable replacement? Here's the reported catchphrase: "THE DICKING WON'T STOP!"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 18:45:11 GMT -5
Eh, you have to build around people but injuries happen frequently, people get burned out, people might look good on paper but never improve, etc. You're better off in taking like six women, book them as fairly competitive, and push one or two at a time based on who gets over the most.
You're trying to keep a strong division strong. Don't compromise it by cherry picking favorites and book them over everyone else, thinking that it's impossible for your plans to fall through.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 20, 2019 19:00:31 GMT -5
Maybe I'm being extremely cynical but I don't think audiences will really care much about her military service or being a single mother. Asuka is also the oldest woman in the division other than Tamina..sometimes that isn't realized I think. Mickie and Shayna are older than Asuka. "I read that in school Mickie James was a student of Shakespeare" "Really?" "No wait, it says she was a student WITH Shakespeare!"
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Post by BigAl on Feb 20, 2019 19:01:55 GMT -5
If they like somebody with a touching background why not Zelina Vega? Her father was killed in the 9/11 Twin Towers incident that alone should win a lot of sympathy with the viewers.
Oh that's right she isn't white and blond is she? this company
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 20:31:14 GMT -5
If they like somebody with a touching background why not Zelina Vega? Her father was killed in the 9/11 Twin Towers incident that alone should win a lot of sympathy with the viewers. Oh that's right she isn't white and blond is she? this company It's funny because I still have no clue if Zelina's a good wrestler or not. She's a fantastic manager though and I hope they keep her with Almas Andrade forever.
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