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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 20:35:23 GMT -5
I didn’t think her Rumble performance was that bad, but I sure as hell wouldn’t stick a rocket on her.
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Post by theironyuppie on Feb 20, 2019 21:22:02 GMT -5
And her house apparently got knocked down by a hurricane about a year or two ago. She’s basically got the luck of Frank Grimes, but with another Frank Grimes being resentful of her as though she’s Homer Simpson. It's always a good day when we can use a Frank Grimes reference. Very accurate.
I hear at one point she lived below a bowling alley and above another bowling alley.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 20, 2019 21:57:19 GMT -5
Lacey failed at two kip ups in the Rumble but he thinks she is above Asuka, Ember, Bayley, Sasha, Alexa, etc?
God get this dude out of wrestling PLEASE.
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Post by Sparkybob on Feb 20, 2019 22:02:32 GMT -5
Lacey failed at two kip ups in the Rumble but he thinks she is above Asuka, Ember, Bayley, Sasha, Alexa, etc? God get this dude out of wrestling PLEASE. Well it was only 1 event so far.
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Post by Long A, Short A on Feb 20, 2019 22:16:10 GMT -5
I'm hopeful that the stuff about Becky is true. I saw something special in her when she took charge of erbody during the 2017 Survivor Series and a few weeks before they tried to push as a heel. Charlotte is good, but I'm just not under her spell. Evans is a human struggle plate with the delusional caption. Now, I know people have droned on about her needing time, but I don't think she's going to get the time that she needs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 22:28:24 GMT -5
Lacey failed at two kip ups in the Rumble but he thinks she is above Asuka, Ember, Bayley, Sasha, Alexa, etc? God get this dude out of wrestling PLEASE. Those are just kip ups. I’d understand if she was incredibly sloppy throughout the match but two failed kip ups shouldn’t be the standard barrer with how Vince sees talent. Plus, she’s had damn good matches in NXT.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 20, 2019 22:28:54 GMT -5
Lacey failed at two kip ups in the Rumble but he thinks she is above Asuka, Ember, Bayley, Sasha, Alexa, etc? God get this dude out of wrestling PLEASE. Well it was only 1 event so far. It really aint just that, her promo delivery and NXT Work haven't really stood out at all.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 20, 2019 22:29:51 GMT -5
Lacey failed at two kip ups in the Rumble but he thinks she is above Asuka, Ember, Bayley, Sasha, Alexa, etc? God get this dude out of wrestling PLEASE. Those are just kip ups. I’d understand if she was incredibly sloppy throughout the match but two failed kip ups shouldn’t be the standard barrer with how Vince sees talent. Plus, she’s had damn good matches in NXT. Regardless of that, it's way too early for her to be in a Big 3 discussion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 23:30:48 GMT -5
Why are they doing those time-waster segments that are seemingly trying to get "go away" heat for someone they want to build as a top star because of her sympathetic background?
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Post by mistery on Feb 20, 2019 23:38:10 GMT -5
It's way too early for Lacey to be considered a part of the Big 3.
There's also several other factors that WWE should be looking at.
1) Marketability - I don't see Lacey's background appealing to many people. Especially mainstream viewers, who WWE are trying to target. While she is a military veteran, she also isn't single like WWE is marketing. She's been married for quite some time now, and her husband and kid attend every Full Sail taping.
2) In Ring Ability - She's way below a lot of the other women on the main roster. And her NXT matches weren't exactly lighting the world on fire either.
3) Personal Life - While Lacey has lived a troubled life at times, she also has several pretty severe allegations floating around (homophobia, transphobic, racist are the three I've seen posted). If WWE tries to market her, those WILL surface and things will get ugly very quickly.
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Honestly I think WWE would be better off either putting Asuka in that role, or if they feel like she's too limited or old, bring up Kairi Sane.
Kairi is insanely marketable, has had some sad moments in her life (she's lost people to cancer), is more fluent in English than Asuka (so she should be able to do interviews), and also is a positive PR machine. She donated everything she got from her comic book signing to St. Jude's cancer prevention and treatment fund for children.
Not to mention WWE would likely be seen in a better light because it would show they are willing to promote racial diversity in the company.
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Post by Sparkybob on Feb 21, 2019 0:18:42 GMT -5
It's way too early for Lacey to be considered a part of the Big 3. There's also several other factors that WWE should be looking at. 1) Marketability - I don't see Lacey's background appealing to many people. Especially mainstream viewers, who WWE are trying to target. While she is a military veteran, she also isn't single like WWE is marketing. She's been married for quite some time now, and her husband and kid attend every Full Sail taping. 2) In Ring Ability - She's way below a lot of the other women on the main roster. And her NXT matches weren't exactly lighting the world on fire either. 3) Personal Life - While Lacey has lived a troubled life at times, she also has several pretty severe allegations floating around (homophobia, transphobic, racist are the three I've seen posted). If WWE tries to market her, those WILL surface and things will get ugly very quickly. ---- Honestly I think WWE would be better off either putting Asuka in that role, or if they feel like she's too limited or old, bring up Kairi Sane. Kairi is insanely marketable, has had some sad moments in her life (she's lost people to cancer), is more fluent in English than Asuka (so she should be able to do interviews), and also is a positive PR machine. She donated everything she got from her comic book signing to St. Jude's cancer prevention and treatment fund for children. Not to mention WWE would likely be seen in a better light because it would show they are willing to promote racial diversity in the company. I think you are downplaying the military angle. Whatever your stance is on the U.S Military it's an easy thing to market Lacey when she does the talk show routes as a military mom who also wrestles. Talk shows/Local news eat that stuff up.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Feb 21, 2019 0:28:34 GMT -5
I'm confused.
They spelled Asuka wrong.
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Post by robferatu on Feb 21, 2019 0:33:17 GMT -5
Sorry Asuka, you're over as f*** and a great wrestler, but you aren't white so f*** off. This isn't ageism so I hope it's not taken as such, but with Asuka in her late thirties, one has to wonder how much longer she'll want to continue to wrestle. It makes since to build the future of the women's division around Becky Lynch, considering how over she is, but you'd the likes of Sasha Banks and Alexa Bliss would be the two other cornerstones you'd build around as well. Obviously, Charlotte Flair is going to be in the mix as well, but I'm not familiar enough with Lacey Evans to have an opinion of her, but I feel like Kairi Sane could easily fill the void of Asuka, if she was to retire and would be another that the women's division could be built around.
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Post by BigAl on Feb 21, 2019 0:33:54 GMT -5
It's way too early for Lacey to be considered a part of the Big 3. There's also several other factors that WWE should be looking at. 1) Marketability - I don't see Lacey's background appealing to many people. Especially mainstream viewers, who WWE are trying to target. While she is a military veteran, she also isn't single like WWE is marketing. She's been married for quite some time now, and her husband and kid attend every Full Sail taping. 2) In Ring Ability - She's way below a lot of the other women on the main roster. And her NXT matches weren't exactly lighting the world on fire either. 3) Personal Life - While Lacey has lived a troubled life at times, she also has several pretty severe allegations floating around (homophobia, transphobic, racist are the three I've seen posted). If WWE tries to market her, those WILL surface and things will get ugly very quickly. ---- Honestly I think WWE would be better off either putting Asuka in that role, or if they feel like she's too limited or old, bring up Kairi Sane. Kairi is insanely marketable, has had some sad moments in her life (she's lost people to cancer), is more fluent in English than Asuka (so she should be able to do interviews), and also is a positive PR machine. She donated everything she got from her comic book signing to St. Jude's cancer prevention and treatment fund for children. Not to mention WWE would likely be seen in a better light because it would show they are willing to promote racial diversity in the company. I think you are downplaying the military angle. Whatever your stance is on the U.S Military it's an easy thing to market Lacey when she does the talk show routes as a military mom who also wrestles. Talk shows/Local news eat that stuff up. But wouldn't zelina Vega 9/11 story would really eat up the talk show circuits? Or because she isn't a blond and she's not white that makes it a minus
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Post by Prince Petty on Feb 21, 2019 1:19:21 GMT -5
If they like somebody with a touching background why not Zelina Vega? Her father was killed in the 9/11 Twin Towers incident that alone should win a lot of sympathy with the viewers. Oh that's right she isn't white and blond is she? this company They've even put videos out of her talking about losing her father, so they know how powerful her story is. But I can imagine Vince saying "yeah, but look at her. She's sneaky, pal. One of those devious, underhanded types. She has to be a heel!" I love her with Almas, though. She's a great heat magnet, and shows that the art of the manager isn't quite dead, in the WWE. As soon as they started giving her more than the odd match, some numbskull in creative would say, 'well we have to break her and Almas up, now.' I'd rather she and Almas get a main event heel run, because I think he definitely works better as an arrogant heel.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 21, 2019 1:31:20 GMT -5
Sorry Asuka, you're over as f*** and a great wrestler, but you aren't white so f*** off. This isn't ageism so I hope it's not taken as such, but with Asuka in her late thirties, one has to wonder how much longer she'll want to continue to wrestle. It makes since to build the future of the women's division around Becky Lynch, considering how over she is, but you'd the likes of Sasha Banks and Alexa Bliss would be the two other cornerstones you'd build around as well. Obviously, Charlotte Flair is going to be in the mix as well, but I'm not familiar enough with Lacey Evans to have an opinion of her, but I feel like Kairi Sane could easily fill the void of Asuka, if she was to retire and would be another that the women's division could be built around. AJ came to WWE older than Asuka is now and he's been given the keys to the kingdom, but more than that, not everything needs to be for the future. The idea of building shows and divisions around a single tentpole talent for years on years is not only not really workable in modern WWE--Cena overseeing a period of steadily dwindling ratings and creative staleness, Roman having so long on top without ever actually finding his footing but he's been pegged into that spot so they keep going with it--but it's a waste of talent. It doesn't matter if Asuka retires in a few years. She's here now. Not using hjer to her fullest extent doesn't make much sense, they can build her up now to be something big, then when she's on her way out have someone built up to take that spot put her down. That's the cycle that wrestling is supposed to be working by. Also Kairi is not in any way a comparable replacement for Asuka. They work entirely different styles and personalities, the only void is literally just "is Japanese" and both WWE and fans need to be better about not seeing them as interchangeable or like you only need one.
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Post by MAGGLE on Feb 21, 2019 2:26:41 GMT -5
Imagine never seeing someone wrestle and saying this is my new top star hahaha.
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Post by Ryushinku on Feb 21, 2019 3:26:35 GMT -5
Thanks goodness Dave only talked about Lacey for a minute rather than a whole two, or I expect the poor woman would've been hounded out of the country at the nearest airport by now.
This read more like speculation than solid hard fact, and as said, Vince has always been so changeable he could completely alter his mind by tomorrow anyway.
We've all got our favourites in the division, and currently Lacey wouldn't be my top three, but if they're gonna give her a shot then I'll see what she makes of it. If she fails, she fails, plenty of others ready to step up. If it works out, great.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 21, 2019 5:48:10 GMT -5
Those are just kip ups. I’d understand if she was incredibly sloppy throughout the match but two failed kip ups shouldn’t be the standard barrer with how Vince sees talent. Plus, she’s had damn good matches in NXT. Regardless of that, it's way too early for her to be in a Big 3 discussion. It is, and she might never get there, but the way people are talking, a couple of kip ups and staggering after a flip, none of which is in her usual repertoire anyway makes her the 2nd coming of Eva Marie. There's got to be a middle ground, she's fine as a midcard act, not terrible, not great, but she's ready for TV and has a lot of potential.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 21, 2019 5:58:39 GMT -5
Lacey was called up way too early and all they're going to do to the poor girl is overexpose her.
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