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Post by madness50 on Jun 20, 2019 12:53:04 GMT -5
Wasn’t that how they introduced his second wife into the show? I remember him getting thrown in jail or something like that. Post dream sequence really killed that show’s momentum. No, that was not her. Cally was just dumb and easily seduced. He was framed for it as a rape though, getting ten years. Were those incidents early on in the show?
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Post by CMWaters on Jun 20, 2019 15:29:48 GMT -5
*Peruses thread. ...how did we miss this one?
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Post by Prince Petty on Jun 20, 2019 23:19:27 GMT -5
How about Angel, the episode Redefinition?
Angel had spent most of season 2 trying to save the resurrected Darla from being turned back into a vampire by Wolfram and Hart, and was constantly having to deal with them interfering with his life. In the end, they get Drusilla to turn Darla. Unfortunately, they overlook the fact that two insane vampires might not enjoy being manipulated by a bunch of evil lawyers.
So Darla and Drusilla crash a Wolfram and Hart party and make it clear they're going to kill these lawyers for messing with them. Luckily, Angel turns up just in time, and head evil lawyer appeals to him that, "people are going to die here" if he doesn't stop Darla and Drusilla.
Angel's response: "And yet somehow, I just can't seem to care." He locks twenty lawyers in with two vampires and walks away. Then he fires all his friends when they tell him it was wrong.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Jun 21, 2019 3:06:51 GMT -5
No, that was not her. Cally was just dumb and easily seduced. He was framed for it as a rape though, getting ten years. Were those incidents early on in the show? He raped Holly in season 6 and Laurel in season 11. The prison story was season 12.
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Post by madness50 on Jun 21, 2019 5:51:17 GMT -5
Were those incidents early on in the show? He raped Holly in season 6 and Laurel in season 11. The prison story was season 12. I remember the one from season 6 and I don’t remember the one from season 11. Wasn’t the Holly one when Sue Ellen got sideways with JR again?
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Post by MrElijah on Jun 21, 2019 7:05:50 GMT -5
IIRC, didn't Bravestarr have an episode where a teen dies from an overdose?
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Post by wildojinx on Jun 21, 2019 10:22:26 GMT -5
IIRC, didn't Bravestarr have an episode where a teen dies from an overdose?
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Jun 21, 2019 10:47:19 GMT -5
He raped Holly in season 6 and Laurel in season 11. The prison story was season 12. I remember the one from season 6 and I don’t remember the one from season 11. Wasn’t the Holly one when Sue Ellen got sideways with JR again? Holly deliberately caused She Ellen to find them in bed together to get JR out of her life. All of it leading to a paralysed character, a murder charge, a fire and two deaths.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 21, 2019 13:55:22 GMT -5
DS9 could practically have a corner on the market for this topic. Consider all of the following episodes:
--Battle Lines. Sisko and Co. take Kai Opaka to a weird penal colony planet, Opaka "dies" but then is revived under the caveat of having to stay with these convicts who want to just kill each other, revive, repeat. This also had future ramifications since it opened up the Kai position for Vedek Winn. --Necessary Evil. Just a bleak episode where Odo finds out Kira did some bad stuff years earlier. --Life Support. Entire episode is basically about Vedek Bareil being critically injured and dying...leading to Winn becoming Kai. --Sons of Mogh. Worf's brother Kurn is a depressed, suicidal wreck over the loss of their property back home, and finally they have to erase his memory. The last scene is especially heartbreaking as Kurn asks Worf who his family is and Worf responds "I have no family." --The Quickening. Bashir tries to solve a plague that is wrecking a Dominion controlled planet. He kinda does find a cure but only for the newborn generation...everyone else has to die. --The Ship. A tense confrontation between the DS9 crew and the Dominion over a downed warship, and some of the lesser DS9 crew die. --Things Past. Another past tense episode, with it being revealed that Odo ignored credible evidence to send 3 Bajoran dudes to their deaths over trying to kill Dukat. --Empok Nor. Underrated O'Brien/Garak episode where Garak is poisoned by a gas that turns Cardassians mad and they play cat and mouse. Garak actually kills a couple of redshirts here. --Most of the first 6 episodes of season 6, as well as the finale of 5 where the Dominion takes DS9 by force. --Far Beyond the Stars. The famed 1950s episode where Sisko is sci fi writer Benny Russell, who goes insane over his lack of opportunities. Not overly dark, but sad by the end. --Honor Among Thieves. O'Brien befriends an Orion Syndicate dude but once this is revealed the guy's gangster buddies have him killed. --Wrongs Darker than Death or Night. Kira has to come to terms with her mother having been Dukat's lover and a collaborator during the Cardassian occupation. --In the Pale Moonlight. Not necessarily dark exactly but the most cynical episode of any Trek show. --The Sound of Her Voice. The DS9 crew races against time to rescue a female captain only to find out the messages they've been getting are old and she's been dead for a while. --Tears of the Prophets. About as dark as it gets, folks. Dukat kills Dax in cold blood. --Treachery, Faith, and the Great River. A good guy Weyoun clone tries to do the right thing but ends up dying for it.
Those are in addition to the previously mentioned episodes. I am probably forgetting a few here, including various Section 31 episodes, which are more cynical than outright dark.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jun 22, 2019 1:40:00 GMT -5
DS9 could practically have a corner on the market for this topic. Consider all of the following episodes: --Battle Lines. Sisko and Co. take Kai Opaka to a weird penal colony planet, Opaka "dies" but then is revived under the caveat of having to stay with these convicts who want to just kill each other, revive, repeat. This also had future ramifications since it opened up the Kai position for Vedek Winn. --Necessary Evil. Just a bleak episode where Odo finds out Kira did some bad stuff years earlier. --Life Support. Entire episode is basically about Vedek Bareil being critically injured and dying...leading to Winn becoming Kai. --Sons of Mogh. Worf's brother Kurn is a depressed, suicidal wreck over the loss of their property back home, and finally they have to erase his memory. The last scene is especially heartbreaking as Kurn asks Worf who his family is and Worf responds "I have no family." --The Quickening. Bashir tries to solve a plague that is wrecking a Dominion controlled planet. He kinda does find a cure but only for the newborn generation...everyone else has to die. --The Ship. A tense confrontation between the DS9 crew and the Dominion over a downed warship, and some of the lesser DS9 crew die. --Things Past. Another past tense episode, with it being revealed that Odo ignored credible evidence to send 3 Bajoran dudes to their deaths over trying to kill Dukat. --Empok Nor. Underrated O'Brien/Garak episode where Garak is poisoned by a gas that turns Cardassians mad and they play cat and mouse. Garak actually kills a couple of redshirts here. --Most of the first 6 episodes of season 6, as well as the finale of 5 where the Dominion takes DS9 by force. --Far Beyond the Stars. The famed 1950s episode where Sisko is sci fi writer Benny Russell, who goes insane over his lack of opportunities. Not overly dark, but sad by the end. --Honor Among Thieves. O'Brien befriends an Orion Syndicate dude but once this is revealed the guy's gangster buddies have him killed. --Wrongs Darker than Death or Night. Kira has to come to terms with her mother having been Dukat's lover and a collaborator during the Cardassian occupation. --In the Pale Moonlight. Not necessarily dark exactly but the most cynical episode of any Trek show. --The Sound of Her Voice. The DS9 crew races against time to rescue a female captain only to find out the messages they've been getting are old and she's been dead for a while. --Tears of the Prophets. About as dark as it gets, folks. Dukat kills Dax in cold blood. --Treachery, Faith, and the Great River. A good guy Weyoun clone tries to do the right thing but ends up dying for it. Those are in addition to the previously mentioned episodes. I am probably forgetting a few here, including various Section 31 episodes, which are more cynical than outright dark. I'd throw in Valiant, a crew of plucky cadets has to take over a dangerous mission in enemy territory. The leader is on drugs, turns the ship into a fascist state, their attack is totally pointless and everyone does. Also from Star Trek, there's Course: Oblivion from Voyager, that might be the bleakest episode they ever made.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Jun 22, 2019 2:05:42 GMT -5
DS9 could practically have a corner on the market for this topic. Consider all of the following episodes: --Battle Lines. Sisko and Co. take Kai Opaka to a weird penal colony planet, Opaka "dies" but then is revived under the caveat of having to stay with these convicts who want to just kill each other, revive, repeat. This also had future ramifications since it opened up the Kai position for Vedek Winn. --Necessary Evil. Just a bleak episode where Odo finds out Kira did some bad stuff years earlier. --Life Support. Entire episode is basically about Vedek Bareil being critically injured and dying...leading to Winn becoming Kai. --Sons of Mogh. Worf's brother Kurn is a depressed, suicidal wreck over the loss of their property back home, and finally they have to erase his memory. The last scene is especially heartbreaking as Kurn asks Worf who his family is and Worf responds "I have no family." --The Quickening. Bashir tries to solve a plague that is wrecking a Dominion controlled planet. He kinda does find a cure but only for the newborn generation...everyone else has to die. --The Ship. A tense confrontation between the DS9 crew and the Dominion over a downed warship, and some of the lesser DS9 crew die. --Things Past. Another past tense episode, with it being revealed that Odo ignored credible evidence to send 3 Bajoran dudes to their deaths over trying to kill Dukat. --Empok Nor. Underrated O'Brien/Garak episode where Garak is poisoned by a gas that turns Cardassians mad and they play cat and mouse. Garak actually kills a couple of redshirts here. --Most of the first 6 episodes of season 6, as well as the finale of 5 where the Dominion takes DS9 by force. --Far Beyond the Stars. The famed 1950s episode where Sisko is sci fi writer Benny Russell, who goes insane over his lack of opportunities. Not overly dark, but sad by the end. --Honor Among Thieves. O'Brien befriends an Orion Syndicate dude but once this is revealed the guy's gangster buddies have him killed. --Wrongs Darker than Death or Night. Kira has to come to terms with her mother having been Dukat's lover and a collaborator during the Cardassian occupation. --In the Pale Moonlight. Not necessarily dark exactly but the most cynical episode of any Trek show. --The Sound of Her Voice. The DS9 crew races against time to rescue a female captain only to find out the messages they've been getting are old and she's been dead for a while. --Tears of the Prophets. About as dark as it gets, folks. Dukat kills Dax in cold blood. --Treachery, Faith, and the Great River. A good guy Weyoun clone tries to do the right thing but ends up dying for it. Those are in addition to the previously mentioned episodes. I am probably forgetting a few here, including various Section 31 episodes, which are more cynical than outright dark. I'd throw in Valiant, a crew of plucky cadets has to take over a dangerous mission in enemy territory. The leader is on drugs, turns the ship into a fascist state, their attack is totally pointless and everyone does. "We're red squad, and we can do anything!"
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Post by chrom on Jun 22, 2019 7:38:15 GMT -5
Family Matters, Laura gets mugged and beaten up and thinks about buying a gun for defense.
Steve goes with and manages to talk her out of it when a shot is fired nearby and a girl is seen on the ground having been shot in the arm. Its implied by Carl and Harriet she'll never be able to use it again.
Little if any comedy in the episode
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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 22, 2019 9:34:49 GMT -5
Someone already mentioned Valiant, which is why I didn't. Also Duet. I remember thinking with that Valiant episode that if they did it now they would successfully blow up the Dominion ship at the end, they'd live, etc. Because they would want to draw the teen demographic or something.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 22, 2019 11:26:49 GMT -5
South Park. "Stanley's Cup". To the point where it wrapped back around to being hilarious again.
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Post by Clint Bobski on Jun 22, 2019 13:41:04 GMT -5
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Post by thetower52 on Jun 22, 2019 14:42:23 GMT -5
The end of season one of the west wing with president Bartlet getting shot
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Post by thechase on Jun 22, 2019 14:59:36 GMT -5
*Peruses thread. ...how did we miss this one? Spare a thought for "A Very Special Blossom" now and again will ya?
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Post by Shark on Jun 28, 2019 0:31:49 GMT -5
One I just thought of that while not totally dark, it's actually played for a laugh, but at the end of an episode of Seinfeld, a friend of Jerry's is in the hospital and is very depressed and Jerry keeps being told to go over and try and make him laugh since Jerry's a comedian. Jerry tries once and fails so he goes a second time with new material and he's got his friend in stitches with laughter. Jerry tells another joke and we hear the laughter abruptly cut off. Jerry calls his friend's name a few times, but we realize that the guy actually laughed himself to death. Again, it is played for a laugh, but Jerry did technically cause the man to die.
Similar to the infamous episode a few seasons later when George inadvertently causes his fiance, Susan, to die after picking the cheap envelops that George picked out. George then barely has any reaction to the news that not only is Susan dead, but that he's the reason for it.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jun 28, 2019 3:04:19 GMT -5
The Battlestar Galactica remake series had a few including Dualla killing herself half way through an episode after having a nice date with her estranged husband (wanting her last memory to be a positive one).
Also Cally intended to kill herself and her baby (but she is the only one who ends up dying)
A lot of notable characters died in the show thinking about it
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 28, 2019 3:39:23 GMT -5
Family Matters, Laura gets mugged and beaten up and thinks about buying a gun for defense. Steve goes with and manages to talk her out of it when a shot is fired nearby and a girl is seen on the ground having been shot in the arm. Its implied by Carl and Harriet she'll never be able to use it again. Little if any comedy in the episode "Fight the Good Fight" would be another example from that show. Like, there were a few jokes, but uhhhh, things are mostly pretty rough.
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