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Post by willywonka666 on Sept 3, 2019 11:03:39 GMT -5
Reading about Triple H being awarded the title back in 2002, made me think of other situations that were lousy for title wins.
I was fine with Larry Zbysko being AWA champ, but from winning a battle royal rather than a tournament didn’t seem as important.
Actually the AWA had a few like that-I can think of at least one more, when Nick Bockwinkel won the title when Stan Hansen no showed-and later lost it after obvious interference from Larry Zbysko in his match with Curt Hennig. They held it up to review the tapes. It would have made more sense to just let it stand if they couldn’t see anything in the tapes that everyone else did.
What are some others?
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Sept 3, 2019 11:05:34 GMT -5
WCW had a nasty habit in 2000 where unless it was a world title win to end the show, they would cut away from a title win in like five seconds. You never had the chance to digest it or see the guy celebrate.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 3, 2019 11:06:16 GMT -5
Jinder. Also of course Fingerpoke of Doom I assume beyond world title wins?That opens a much bigger can of awful title wins
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Post by Nosnorb on Sept 3, 2019 11:08:52 GMT -5
Roman Reigns, Summerslam 2018. Won the title thanks to Braun Strowman distracting Brock Lesnar.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Sept 3, 2019 11:12:35 GMT -5
HHH was involved in 2 instances in the span of a month. First the deal with Foley/Austin at SS 99 . It was REALLY obvious the second Foley was inserted into the match that HHH was going to pin him at Summerslam. But instead of doing *that*, they gave Foley win only to have him drop it the next night in an outcome that was so obvious that Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder both saw it coming a mile away.
It was pointless, and it hurt HHH because beating Austin would have meant more.
Then he drops it to Vince like, 2 weeks late because.....reasons.... only to win it back in a 6 pack challenge due in large part because special ref Austin knocked someone silly with a chair at the end.
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Post by Hypnosis on Sept 3, 2019 11:14:41 GMT -5
Chris Sabin and Magnus in TNA.
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Post by Burst on Sept 3, 2019 11:32:32 GMT -5
Randy Orton beating Christian for seemingly no good reason after a day long title reign and Christian somehow winding up with a half assed heel turn out of it
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Sept 3, 2019 11:33:21 GMT -5
Winning the Knockouts title by opening a box.
I don’t even follow TNA/Impact/Global/Clown Show of Death Wrestling, but wow.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Sept 3, 2019 11:33:55 GMT -5
Booking Eric Young as a Dollar Store Daniel Bryan like, 2 days after Wrestlemania 30
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Post by Nosnorb on Sept 3, 2019 11:34:24 GMT -5
Chris Sabin and Magnus in TNA. As bad as the hot-shotted title reign of Sabin and both (him beating Jeff Hardy and beating AJ Styles in his final TNA match was) of the title wins of Magnus, they weren't as bad as Angelina Love winning the belt in the Lockbox Challenge. Holy shit, that was awful.
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Post by Hypnosis on Sept 3, 2019 12:00:36 GMT -5
Chris Sabin and Magnus in TNA. As bad as the hot-shotted title reign of Sabin and both (him beating Jeff Hardy and beating AJ Styles in his final TNA match was) of the title wins of Magnus, they weren't as bad as Angelina Love winning the belt in the Lockbox Challenge. Holy shit, that was awful. I'll grant you that. Two other ones where a title wasn't won in a match: Shane McMahon giving the European Title to Mideon, and Jim Duggan finding the WCW TV Title in a trash can, then declared himself champion.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 3, 2019 12:24:05 GMT -5
Randy Orton beating Christian for seemingly no good reason after a day long title reign and Christian somehow winding up with a half assed heel turn out of it That belongs in the best
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 3, 2019 12:24:38 GMT -5
Abyss winning the title by DQ
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Post by Cyno on Sept 3, 2019 12:39:46 GMT -5
Jinder Mahal and his paint-by-numbers foreign heel reign as WWE Champion.
And really, take your pick of the WCW Championship wins in 1999 and 2000.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Sept 3, 2019 13:01:12 GMT -5
HHH was involved in 2 instances in the span of a month. First the deal with Foley/Austin at SS 99 . It was REALLY obvious the second Foley was inserted into the match that HHH was going to pin him at Summerslam. But instead of doing *that*, they gave Foley win only to have him drop it the next night in an outcome that was so obvious that Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder both saw it coming a mile away. It was pointless, and it hurt HHH because beating Austin would have meant more. Then he drops it to Vince like, 2 weeks late because.....reasons.... only to win it back in a 6 pack challenge due in large part because special ref Austin knocked someone silly with a chair at the end. IMO this stuff is the reason nobody took him seriously as world champ until he beat Big Show. Not sure if Austin was politicking cause he didn't like him or Ventura didn't want to raise his hand or what, but his first couple reigns were a joke.
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 3, 2019 13:02:29 GMT -5
Seems every other GWF title "victory" came about because the previous champion quit or the title was vacated for reasons. I recall every other week there would be a title tournament or battle of the top contenders for the vacant title throughout the history of the company.
Think the TV title got it particularly bad...they had a tournament in the first few weeks of the GWF's existence, the Patriot won it, then he won the North American title and so he vacated the TV one, necessitating another tournament. I want to say Eddie Gilbert never lost the TV title either, as I am sketchy as to how Sam Houston wound up with it. Then HE got stripped and suspended (GWF commissioner, one of the original heel authority figures BTW, took the title from him for bringing a chainsaw to the ring) only for a masked Houston to lose a match to fill the vacancy to Maniac Mike Davis.
(The ending to this story is, Houston actually kept the physical belt like most of the champs who abandoned Global, and admitted to pawning it somewhere)
The North American/GWF title should be mentioned for the random tag wrestlers given it. After Eddie Gilbert (repeat after me) left the company, took the belt, and was stripped of the title, champs included Scott Putski, Rod Price, and Stevie Ray...yes THAT one. Granted some of them became or were at least established as good singles wrestlers, still it seemed wonky.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Sept 3, 2019 13:10:56 GMT -5
HHH was involved in 2 instances in the span of a month. First the deal with Foley/Austin at SS 99 . It was REALLY obvious the second Foley was inserted into the match that HHH was going to pin him at Summerslam. But instead of doing *that*, they gave Foley win only to have him drop it the next night in an outcome that was so obvious that Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder both saw it coming a mile away. It was pointless, and it hurt HHH because beating Austin would have meant more. Then he drops it to Vince like, 2 weeks late because.....reasons.... only to win it back in a 6 pack challenge due in large part because special ref Austin knocked someone silly with a chair at the end. IMO this stuff is the reason nobody took him seriously as world champ until he beat Big Show. Not sure if Austin was politicking cause he didn't like him or Ventura didn't want to raise his hand or what, but his first couple reigns were a joke. The R&I is that the Governor would not raise the hand of a heel champion so the finish was changed to Foley winning the belt.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Sept 3, 2019 13:13:02 GMT -5
HHH was involved in 2 instances in the span of a month. First the deal with Foley/Austin at SS 99 . It was REALLY obvious the second Foley was inserted into the match that HHH was going to pin him at Summerslam. But instead of doing *that*, they gave Foley win only to have him drop it the next night in an outcome that was so obvious that Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder both saw it coming a mile away. It was pointless, and it hurt HHH because beating Austin would have meant more. Then he drops it to Vince like, 2 weeks late because.....reasons.... only to win it back in a 6 pack challenge due in large part because special ref Austin knocked someone silly with a chair at the end. IMO this stuff is the reason nobody took him seriously as world champ until he beat Big Show. Not sure if Austin was politicking cause he didn't like him or Ventura didn't want to raise his hand or what, but his first couple reigns were a joke. I've heard both, actually. Oh, and while we're at it, the Big Show's title win counts in this category too. Shoehorned into the match when Austin had to be written off, and then wins in an overbooked mess of a triple threat. An added bonus, HHH loses the title for the 2nd time in less than 3 months. Way to book your #1 heel. Only after Foley made him look like a million bucks in back to back PPVs did HHH finally get his mojo back.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Sept 3, 2019 13:17:14 GMT -5
IMO this stuff is the reason nobody took him seriously as world champ until he beat Big Show. Not sure if Austin was politicking cause he didn't like him or Ventura didn't want to raise his hand or what, but his first couple reigns were a joke. The R&I is that the Governor would not raise the hand of a heel champion so the finish was changed to Foley winning the belt. IF that's indeed true, then there's no reason Austin couldn't have dropped it the next night. I think it was that, combined with Austin not wanting to do the job. Either way, it sucked. Foley might as well have come down to the ring with a shirt that read "soon to be former champ" written in huge letters
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Post by bob on Sept 3, 2019 13:33:44 GMT -5
David Arquette winning the WCW Championship........in a tag match ...….. when he pinned non-champion Eric Bischoff
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