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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Dec 17, 2022 18:32:48 GMT -5
Having watched it recently, I can tell you that I think the big problem that plagued the movie was its failure at keeping a consistent tone, like it was trying to be two movies at the same time. Was it trying to be an edgy superhero movie about an amoral anti-hero? Or a standard superhero adventure with the usual beats?
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Post by mrtuesday on Dec 17, 2022 20:18:40 GMT -5
Rock’s biggest L since Summerslam 2002 We're not counting Baywatch or Doom anymore?
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Post by ace on Dec 17, 2022 20:37:10 GMT -5
Rock’s biggest L since Summerslam 2002 We're not counting Baywatch or Doom anymore? The L isn’t the box office…it’s trying to play it off as a win after declaring the hierarchy of the DCU has changed and then they torpedoed everything on him immediately
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Dec 17, 2022 21:17:57 GMT -5
TL;DR – the figures Team Rock gave to Deadline included home release revenue they expect the movie to take, not what it has actually taken. There's an increasingly loud portion of social media that think maybe Vin Diesel wasn't the problem but the Rock was on their F&F spat and questioning his motives and ego. Hot take is Rock took over Brendan Fraser's career and had him banished from Hollywood.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 18, 2022 0:44:27 GMT -5
Still love how Black Adam commercials are playing where Rock sounds so humble and is saying shit like "Black Adam means so much to me"
Meanwhile he and his team are trying to cook books, call the film a financial success when it wasn't and it wasn't even close, and oh also trying to big league the Shazam franchise by refusing to cameo in the sequel film, and now unfollowing DC and WBD socials because you know for the first time in your life, you're taking a really massive L and you don't know how to handle it
Seriously Rock has shown some true colors here, and none of them are pretty
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Post by Cyno on Dec 18, 2022 0:53:23 GMT -5
Tyrese was right.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 18, 2022 0:59:40 GMT -5
At last I know what the Rock is cookin'.
It's his reputation.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Dec 18, 2022 3:25:00 GMT -5
I still can't get over how shitty the end villain looked.
At first, I thought it was something ripped out of a Serious Sam game.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 18, 2022 3:29:48 GMT -5
Still love how Black Adam commercials are playing where Rock sounds so humble and is saying shit like "Black Adam means so much to me" Meanwhile he and his team are trying to cook books, call the film a financial success when it wasn't and it wasn't even close, and oh also trying to big league the Shazam franchise by refusing to cameo in the sequel film, and now unfollowing DC and WBD socials because you know for the first time in your life, you're taking a really massive L and you don't know how to handle it Seriously Rock has shown some true colors here, and none of them are pretty Black Adam cost over twice as much and only made $23 million more than the first Shazam. That's gotta sting for Rock. Like I've said, I enjoyed Black Adam, but dude, Rock, just take the L and admit you were wrong.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Dec 18, 2022 3:32:12 GMT -5
FAN has officially turned on the Rock.
I knew this would happen. Time to start that online petition to cancel Young Rock on NBC and replace it with reruns of Boston Common.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 18, 2022 5:34:49 GMT -5
Still love how Black Adam commercials are playing where Rock sounds so humble and is saying shit like "Black Adam means so much to me" Meanwhile he and his team are trying to cook books, call the film a financial success when it wasn't and it wasn't even close, and oh also trying to big league the Shazam franchise by refusing to cameo in the sequel film, and now unfollowing DC and WBD socials because you know for the first time in your life, you're taking a really massive L and you don't know how to handle it Seriously Rock has shown some true colors here, and none of them are pretty Black Adam cost over twice as much and only made $23 million more than the first Shazam. That's gotta sting for Rock. Like I've said, I enjoyed Black Adam, but dude, Rock, just take the L and admit you were wrong. And honestly Rock big leaguing an attempted cameo for Shazam 2 and saying "I only work the big leagues", where his character is the central villain of that universe is just really f***ing petty. Like he has no idea how much hype that could have pumped into his own character after Black Adam to see him and Shazam interact in a post credit and set something up for the future. Turns out he only really wanted to confront Superman and didn't want to put anyone else over, brother. That showed me he wanted to make Black Adam "more" than a Shazam antagonist and shit on the entire franchise as a whole, despite the fact Shazam's one of the most popular films of this DCEU era. And the whole world basically just told him "No, that's what he is" and he has to deal with it tbh. He's not dealing with it well. He thought this was gonna be a magnum opus for him, and it's becoming more of a black mark than anything.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 18, 2022 7:52:53 GMT -5
No one outside of comics fans give a shit or even know about Adam and I say that even as he's one of my favorite DC characters.
Plus, while I liked it fine, it's just an okayish superhero movie. Combine an obscure character w a movie whose most glowing reviews are gonna be "yeah that was decent". And you're not gonna have a blockbuster.
Also saw some interview where Rock said something along the lines of he was into Adam when he first saw him in the comics in high school. Haha no. I love ya Rock but you're fulla shit. For starters, in no way do I buy you, future college football player at Miami were reading comics in the late 80s. But even if you were, you 💯 weren't reading Black Adam stuff cuz all the things that make him interesting as a character weren't added till the JSA books of the early 2000s. Before that he was really one note. Anyone who cares about the character knows you're fulla shit there lol.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 18, 2022 8:11:31 GMT -5
No one outside of comics fans give a shit or even know about Adam and I say that even as he's one of my favorite DC characters. Plus, while I liked it fine, it's just an okayish superhero movie. Combine an obscure character w a movie whose most glowing reviews are gonna be "yeah that was decent". And you're not gonna have a blockbuster. Also saw some interview where Rock said something along the lines of he was into Adam when he first saw him in the comics in high school. Haha no. I love ya Rock but you're fulla shit. For starters, in no way do I buy you, future college football player at Miami were reading comics in the late 80s. But even if you were, you 💯 weren't reading Black Adam stuff cuz all the things that make him interesting as a character weren't added till the JSA books of the early 2000s. Before that he was really one note. Anyone who cares about the character knows you're fulla shit there lol. And even with the comics a constant thing you have to deal with with Black Adam is them trying to make him things he's not. He works very well as a supporting character or co-lead riding the line between a villain with a moral code and a hero with deep flaws but they do routinely try to make him carry his own stories or to make him more unambiguously heroic and it really just doesn't work. Like even in 52 his plot's probably the weakest part of it.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 18, 2022 8:14:36 GMT -5
Also saw some interview where Rock said something along the lines of he was into Adam when he first saw him in the comics in high school. Haha no. I love ya Rock but you're fulla shit. For starters, in no way do I buy you, future college football player at Miami were reading comics in the late 80s. But even if you were, you 💯 weren't reading Black Adam stuff cuz all the things that make him interesting as a character weren't added till the JSA books of the early 2000s. Before that he was really one note. Anyone who cares about the character knows you're fulla shit there lol. Of course he's full of shit. This is from an interview back in 2007: The middle paragraph in particular makes it plain he wasn't familiar with the character. Like, at all.
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Post by pinja on Dec 18, 2022 8:17:36 GMT -5
Natural athlete The Rock lying about something? Please no.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 18, 2022 9:03:29 GMT -5
No one outside of comics fans give a shit or even know about Adam and I say that even as he's one of my favorite DC characters.Plus, while I liked it fine, it's just an okayish superhero movie. Combine an obscure character w a movie whose most glowing reviews are gonna be "yeah that was decent". And you're not gonna have a blockbuster. Also saw some interview where Rock said something along the lines of he was into Adam when he first saw him in the comics in high school. Haha no. I love ya Rock but you're fulla shit. For starters, in no way do I buy you, future college football player at Miami were reading comics in the late 80s. But even if you were, you 💯 weren't reading Black Adam stuff cuz all the things that make him interesting as a character weren't added till the JSA books of the early 2000s. Before that he was really one note. Anyone who cares about the character knows you're fulla shit there lol. And you can make a great superhero movie that's a big success with a hero like that. Look at Guardians of the Galaxy, they were lower on the comic book list than Black Adam, and now they're freaking A-list heroes. And that's thanks to the cast (which no doubt Batista's gonna pop up in the DCEU in the future) and Gunn. They went out and make a fantastic fun superhero movie. Sometimes you have that success, sometimes you don't. Out of all the heroes in Black Adam, Hawkman and Dr Fate are higher on the comic book tier list than Black Adam when it comes to general audiences. Rock massively overestimated how popular Black Adam is, throw him in a Shazam movie so people can know him before his solo movie. Just realized, I remember nothing about the villain. The most forgettable villain ever.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 18, 2022 9:46:46 GMT -5
Having watched it recently, I can tell you that I think the big problem that plagued the movie was its failure at keeping a consistent tone, like it was trying to be two movies at the same time. Was it trying to be an edgy superhero movie about an amoral anti-hero? Or a standard superhero adventure with the usual beats? I just watched the movie and basically feel the same way. Of course it didn't help that I found a lot of the characters just unlikable
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Dec 18, 2022 12:23:03 GMT -5
Love Black Adam but I agree, not a solo film kind of guy. Think the film could have worked if they cut the JSA out completely, even if they were the best part about it, and at least allowed for some kind of weakness for Teth Adam. Allowed for fewer actions scenes to create actual character development. Have the villain to have some kind of character and interesting aspects. Film just fails on so many levels.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Dec 18, 2022 12:42:54 GMT -5
Got through about the first 45 minutes.
This is bad. Really bad.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Dec 18, 2022 19:46:27 GMT -5
TL;DR – the figures Team Rock gave to Deadline included home release revenue they expect the movie to take, not what it has actually taken. There's an increasingly loud portion of social media that think maybe Vin Diesel wasn't the problem but the Rock was on their F&F spat and questioning his motives and ego. Hot take is Rock took over Brendan Fraser's career and had him banished from Hollywood. With regards to Vin Diesel. that’s probably from his camp let’s be honest lol. Having said that, I wouldn’t be surprised if part of it was the Rock thinking he’s too big a star (read: Diva) to be put up with any delays . That whole report about him, Vin Diesel and Statham having it into their contracts not to lose fights/take equal damage kinda showed that the Rock isn’t as gee humble friendly as he’d like everyone to believe Watched the film tonight and enjoyed it well enough. Dunno if I’d go out my way to watch it again though
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