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Post by Cyno on Jan 9, 2020 14:37:34 GMT -5
"Nice guys" evolved into PUA's, MGTOW's, incels, and all other matter of hideous creatures of male entitlement.
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Post by Mecca on Jan 9, 2020 14:39:35 GMT -5
This is a very interesting topic, when women are actually women just being yourself should be fine......My son is in high school and point blank told me that acting like a total dick gets him far more female attention than just being a caring nice person to which I said, welcome to the next 5 years.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 9, 2020 14:56:31 GMT -5
The term "incel" is a strange one since it implies that they are virgins through no fault of their own and that sex with other women is their god given right and that it's not a privilege requiring the agreement of two consenting people. Incel is short for involuntary celibacy, BTW. I honestly thought incel had something to do with terrorism until very recently. And not the domestic terrorism they’ve occasionally been linked to, but full blown ISIS style terrorism. Never at all thought it had anything to do with “neckbeards” Note: I’m not saying all “neckbeards” are psycho involuntary celibates. It’s just the term I was always familiar with to refer to that sorta thing. Some incels have killed so I'd say it kind of is; particularly since you could make a Venn diagram that would include incels with a lot of other bad shit. |
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Post by cjh on Jan 9, 2020 15:03:42 GMT -5
"Nice guys" evolved into PUA's, MGTOW's, incels, and all other matter of hideous creatures of male entitlement. Those are 3 very different groups, especially MGTOWs. |
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Post by Cyno on Jan 9, 2020 15:05:21 GMT -5
"Nice guys" evolved into PUA's, MGTOW's, incels, and all other matter of hideous creatures of male entitlement. Those are 3 very different groups, especially MGTOWs. I never said it was a linear evolution. |
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Post by Dub H on Jan 9, 2020 15:09:51 GMT -5
How do I get a non-threatning Genitalia? How can you spot it?DETAILS
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Post by cjh on Jan 9, 2020 15:11:13 GMT -5
Those are 3 very different groups, especially MGTOWs. I never said it was a linear evolution. That's a understatement. An incel desires what a MGTOW not only doesn't desire but also encourages other men to not desire, either. |
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Post by fw91 on Jan 9, 2020 15:13:17 GMT -5
Lol. I don’t hang out at the video store. And I’m over 6 feet!
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 9, 2020 15:26:58 GMT -5
I honestly thought incel had something to do with terrorism until very recently. And not the domestic terrorism they’ve occasionally been linked to, but full blown ISIS style terrorism. Never at all thought it had anything to do with “neckbeards” Note: I’m not saying all “neckbeards” are psycho involuntary celibates. It’s just the term I was always familiar with to refer to that sorta thing. Some incels have killed so I'd say it kind of is; particularly since you could make a Venn diagram that would include incels with a lot of other bad shit. Oh, I absolutely get they have been involved in violent acts including mass shootings. I just always associated the term with coordinated mass terrorist organisations more so then say the Parkland shooter. It wasn’t until I learned incel was a portmanteau for involuntary celibate that I figured out. And I only learned that within the past six months to a year. Pretty sure the reason for my mix up was inaccurately assuming a connection between incel and cell/terrorist cell. EDIT: And definitely agree with the Venn diagram comment, the crossover between incels, white supremacists and other shit people is probably disturbingly high |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 9, 2020 15:31:23 GMT -5
How do I get a non-threatning Genitalia? How can you spot it?DETAILS That's the catch - if you can spot it, it's threatening. |
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Post by Lupin the Third on Jan 9, 2020 15:38:14 GMT -5
Yes, it's still a thing. But not everybody who wears fedoras should be grouped in with those people. They could be wearing a fedora because they love Indiana Jones. Or Humphrey Bogart. Or Frank Sinatra. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 15:42:55 GMT -5
My gf's cousin wears a fedora constantly. I thought he was a teen when I first met him but he's like 26. He just doesn't do anything and bums around. He has this huge bald spot and my gf's little eleven year old cousin completely lost it when she found out he was nearly bald.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 15:46:55 GMT -5
"Nice guys" evolved into PUA's, MGTOW's, incels, and all other matter of hideous creatures of male entitlement. Now I'm far from an expert on the subject so I openly admit that I may be wrong, but I don't think MGTOW's really belong grouped with other "entitled" men. From what I understand, they are simply men that choose to be single instead of spending their lives trying to find a wife and please women. They decided to just say "f*** it" and focus on their own happiness. Maybe there's a darker side to it that I haven't researched, but they seem like they are just independent men. |
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Post by Cyno on Jan 9, 2020 15:58:58 GMT -5
"Nice guys" evolved into PUA's, MGTOW's, incels, and all other matter of hideous creatures of male entitlement. Now I'm far from an expert on the subject so I openly admit that I may be wrong, but I don't think MGTOW's really belong grouped with other "entitled" men. From what I understand, they are simply men that choose to be single instead of spending their lives trying to find a wife and please women. They decided to just say "f*** it" and focus on their own happiness. Maybe there's a darker side to it that I haven't researched, but they seem like they are just independent men. It all comes from the same root sense of entitlement and misogyny. I've seen way too many people who self-identify as MGTOW types who are incredibly misogynistic because they got rejected by women. It's just a different reaction to a similar situation. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 9, 2020 16:03:40 GMT -5
"Nice guys" evolved into PUA's, MGTOW's, incels, and all other matter of hideous creatures of male entitlement. Now I'm far from an expert on the subject so I openly admit that I may be wrong, but I don't think MGTOW's really belong grouped with other "entitled" men. From what I understand, they are simply men that choose to be single instead of spending their lives trying to find a wife and please women. They decided to just say "f*** it" and focus on their own happiness. Maybe there's a darker side to it that I haven't researched, but they seem like they are just independent men. The core belief of the MGTOW community is that feminism has poisoned society, where everything has an anti-men bias. Someone who does the kind of thing you describe generally isn't part of that community, though a good number of the more committed MGTOWs do swear off any kind of relationships with women. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 9, 2020 16:08:32 GMT -5
"I'm a nice guy, why can't these bitches appreciate that???"
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Post by zrowsdower on Jan 9, 2020 16:44:12 GMT -5
yet another reason why I'm done dealing with people and life
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Post by cjh on Jan 9, 2020 16:46:20 GMT -5
"Nice guys" evolved into PUA's, MGTOW's, incels, and all other matter of hideous creatures of male entitlement. Now I'm far from an expert on the subject so I openly admit that I may be wrong, but I don't think MGTOW's really belong grouped with other "entitled" men. From what I understand, they are simply men that choose to be single instead of spending their lives trying to find a wife and please women. They decided to just say "f*** it" and focus on their own happiness. Maybe there's a darker side to it that I haven't researched, but they seem like they are just independent men. Yes, that's basically it. The idea is that men's lives will be better with a focus on other things like career and hobbies rather than getting into relationships with women and having children. Some MGTOWs went through bad divorces or child custody battles while others haven't but just want to make sure it never happens to them. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 9, 2020 16:47:53 GMT -5
"Non threatening genitalia"
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 9, 2020 16:49:28 GMT -5
Now I'm far from an expert on the subject so I openly admit that I may be wrong, but I don't think MGTOW's really belong grouped with other "entitled" men. From what I understand, they are simply men that choose to be single instead of spending their lives trying to find a wife and please women. They decided to just say "f*** it" and focus on their own happiness. Maybe there's a darker side to it that I haven't researched, but they seem like they are just independent men. The core belief of the MGTOW community is that feminism has poisoned society, where everything has an anti-men bias. Someone who does the kind of thing you describe generally isn't part of that community, though a good number of the more committed MGTOWs do swear off any kind of relationships with women. Basically. It's still an unhealthy way to live, with all that bitterness towards half the population. And it's basically broadcasting your self-loathing for all to see. Deliberately labelling yourself as and choosing a lifestyle built around beating yourself up mentally is never healthy way to live, no matter how much you gussy it up. |
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