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Post by agent817 on Jan 9, 2020 11:59:27 GMT -5
Is it still a thing? You know, the so-called "nice guys" who feel are entitled to a woman's heart (or body) because they "treat them well" or anything of that nature? I remember doing some research about this a while back, probably in either 2014 or 2015. I am not sure if I ever really qualified, though this picture below really shows that those types of guys have become the butt of jokes. Of course, this picture was from 2005, so there might be some differences compared to the 2010s to now. Then there is also the trope of wearing a fedora, some even with a trench-coat and possibly a neck-beard. Usually, when I come across guys of that caliber, it's mostly the nerdy types who are all into anime or fantasy stuff. Nothing wrong with those genres, by the way, as I respect them (Though never really got into them). I see nothing wrong with wearing fedoras or porkpie hats, but it usually depends on the situation. One of the reasons I did research during that time was because I remembered a Reddit post going viral about this guy stalking a Hot Topic employee and he fit some of the bill. This was a while ago, by the way. But are "nice guys" still a thing?
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 9, 2020 12:04:29 GMT -5
It's absolutely still a thing, perhaps even more insidious than ever. Incel culture will ruin your life.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 9, 2020 12:13:40 GMT -5
It's absolutely a thing, though I feel like more people are getting to be aware that it's a matter of entitlement, that these people feel owed sex, attention, or affection, all without considering the feelings and needs of others properly. Incels are the extreme end of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 12:14:04 GMT -5
All gals are treasures for sure!
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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 9, 2020 12:16:06 GMT -5
Spoiler: if you think women owe you attention because you are a nice guy-that makes you not a nice guy
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Post by Simon on Jan 9, 2020 12:19:01 GMT -5
That 2005-era picture has an awful lot of physical shaming and stereotyping going on. I wouldn't say those are accurate "tells" of being a Nice Guy. I've known good-looking, well-dressed guys who only treated women decently because they wanted or expected sex from them. They called it "game", but it was pretty obvious what it actually was.
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Post by thechase on Jan 9, 2020 12:24:05 GMT -5
I'm a nice guy [cans.wav]
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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 9, 2020 12:26:32 GMT -5
That 2005-era picture has an awful lot of physical shaming and stereotyping going on. I wouldn't say those are accurate "tells" of being a Nice Guy. I've known good-looking, well-dressed guys who only treated women decently because they wanted or expected sex from them. They called it "game", but it was pretty obvious what it actually was. Remember The Pickup Artist? I kept waiting for that guy to show up as a guest host on RAW.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 9, 2020 12:30:31 GMT -5
Yes, it's still a thing.
But not everybody who wears fedoras should be grouped in with those people. They could be wearing a fedora because they love Indiana Jones.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 12:32:09 GMT -5
Language warning
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Post by Malcolm on Jan 9, 2020 12:37:14 GMT -5
It's absolutely still a thing, perhaps even more insidious than ever. Incel culture will ruin your life. The term "incel" is a strange one since it implies that they are virgins through no fault of their own and that sex with other women is their god given right and that it's not a privilege requiring the agreement of two consenting people. Incel is short for involuntary celibacy, BTW.
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Post by ogreknee on Jan 9, 2020 12:38:41 GMT -5
It's absolutely still a thing, perhaps even more insidious than ever. Incel culture will ruin your life. Most girls end up with nice guys Most nice guys do well Fake nice guys are socially awkward people who think the world owes them are the worst
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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 9, 2020 13:03:34 GMT -5
It's absolutely still a thing, perhaps even more insidious than ever. Incel culture will ruin your life. The term "incel" is a strange one since it implies that they are virgins through no fault of their own and that sex with other women is their god given right and that it's not a privilege requiring the agreement of two consenting people. Incel is short for involuntary celibacy, BTW. My advice to them: If all you want is to have sex-then it is abundant, cheap, and not all that hard to come by. If all you want is to have sex with a Victoria’s Secret runway model without having to go through any motions like actually dating and winning her confidence, and who will be so blown away by your prowess in the bedroom that she becomes your willing love slave but won’t get upset if you pursue other women and you hold a seething hatred of other men who find it easy to come by sex-them put down the bong and step away from the fan fiction, you been over indulging in the bad shit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 13:05:53 GMT -5
Nice pussycat!
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Post by thechase on Jan 9, 2020 13:09:27 GMT -5
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 9, 2020 13:09:37 GMT -5
It's absolutely still a thing, perhaps even more insidious than ever. Incel culture will ruin your life. The term "incel" is a strange one since it implies that they are virgins through no fault of their own and that sex with other women is their god given right and that it's not a privilege requiring the agreement of two consenting people. Incel is short for involuntary celibacy, BTW. I honestly thought incel had something to do with terrorism until very recently. And not the domestic terrorism they’ve occasionally been linked to, but full blown ISIS style terrorism. Never at all thought it had anything to do with “neckbeards” Note: I’m not saying all “neckbeards” are psycho involuntary celibates. It’s just the term I was always familiar with to refer to that sorta thing.
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Post by agent817 on Jan 9, 2020 13:26:04 GMT -5
Yes, it's still a thing. But not everybody who wears fedoras should be grouped in with those people. They could be wearing a fedora because they love Indiana Jones. Or Humphrey Bogart.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jan 9, 2020 14:31:26 GMT -5
Reddit seems to have a lot of forums dedicated to both self identified “nice guys” and to making fun of them, so yeah, it’s definitely still a thing.
It’s also a cultural time bomb that unfortunately I can’t see any answer for. Sadly I think there’s going to be way more Elliot Rodgers in the future unless a way can be found to get these guys some help.
ETA: Just want to be clear I mean help with their personal neuroses, not in terms of teaching them how to be pickup artists or something.
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Post by H-Virus on Jan 9, 2020 14:31:45 GMT -5
Everyone knows that bowler hats are the real way to a woman’s bed heart bed.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 9, 2020 14:37:04 GMT -5
Spoiler: if you think women owe you attention because you are a nice guy-that makes you not a nice guy But it does make them Nice Guys (tm)* *Bit via Dr.Nerdlove.
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