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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Jan 9, 2020 20:45:38 GMT -5
I saw a blog or some shit where an incel (he identified himself as one, I’m not making a generalization) said he stopped taking showers because it was unfair that woman demand men smell good or some shit. It’s like, buddy, if you’re not showering, you’re taking the “in” out of “incel.”
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jan 9, 2020 20:52:57 GMT -5
I saw a blog or some shit where an incel (he identified himself as one, I’m not making a generalization) said he stopped taking showers because it was unfair that woman demand men smell good or some shit. It’s like, buddy, if you’re not showering, you’re taking the “in” out of “incel.” Coincidentally I just read in the latest issue of Psychology Today thst showering far less might be a future key to rebuilding an immune system and defending against disease So homey might be inadvertently doing himself a favor whilst remaining stank.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 20:54:27 GMT -5
It's absolutely still a thing. Hell, just the other day I watched a stream that included someone tearing into a video of a guy throwing a tantrum over a woman saying that she's only looking for friends and saying it's exactly the same thing as if someone's only looking for sex.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 9, 2020 20:55:35 GMT -5
I saw a blog or some shit where an incel (he identified himself as one, I’m not making a generalization) said he stopped taking showers because it was unfair that woman demand men smell good or some shit. It’s like, buddy, if you’re not showering, you’re taking the “in” out of “incel.” Coincidentally I just read in the latest issue of Psychology Today thst showering far less might be a future key to rebuilding an immune system and defending against disease So homey might be inadvertently doing himself a favor whilst remaining stank. Crippling depression is finally good for something!
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Post by Malcolm on Jan 9, 2020 21:15:59 GMT -5
One thing that could help would be to get rid of the stupid social stigma of being a male virgin.
Sex isn't the end all be all in life.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 9, 2020 21:47:47 GMT -5
The distinction I've always seen is that it's a matter of distinction between being a nice guy and being a "Nice Guy"(tm). An actual nice guy is at least mostly comfortable in their own skin, doesn't force their desires and projections onto other people, makes time for others out of a genuine desire to be friendly and social, etc. A "Nice Guy" is basically doing it all with the expectation of sex or a relationship as a form of payment, a reward earned because you "put the work in" as if life was a RPG and you have to level up to get what you want. As said previously, it's the embodiment of entitlement.
What's sad about it is that we've made the "nice guy" phase something that's almost natural for most young men to go through. Thanks to the socializing of male sexual entitlement, the previously mentioned Hollywood-style imagery of the good guy "winning" an impossibly (and conventionally) beautiful girl as his "prize" for doing heroic deeds, and the expectation that men will "make the first move" to get a date, we've seemingly made it a normal rite of passage for guys to internalize all this stuff and get down on themselves if they're not attracting knockout gorgeous women by the time they're 17 years old, the message being that there's something wrong with you or you're somehow a lesser man (e.g. that stupid "beta male" bullshit...spoiler alert, "alphas" and "betas" don't exist among wolves in the wild, only those in captivity, ironically enough).
And, guess what? Most young guys don't attract many women most of the time! It's fine! It's normal! Yes, there are some guys when you're in school who do get more attention from girls, but that's life, and being in your late teens means there's a whole lot of extra time left!
Thankfully, most guys outgrow the worst of this stuff at some point. You get older, and you begin to get more comfortable with yourself, your interests, your likes and dislikes, etc., and you get away from the insular world of high school and find other people who share your interests, like you for you, and suddenly meeting people becomes a bit simpler.
How nice would it be if we had people more wired that way early on? Obviously some of that comfort in one's self can only really come with age and experience, but if we could move away from tying a man's worth to attracting women, or teach young men that women have more value as individual human beings and not as prizes to be won, that'd at least deal with part of the root causes of these problems.
And like some of you guys have said, you then get the people who never grow out of the mindset, and it's sad to see. Incels, "MGTOWs" (sorry, I don't trust this group at all; it's fine not to date, in fact it can be healthy to be happy without needing a relationship to define you, but that label is usually synonymous with misogyny), etc., it's all rotten fruit from the same rotten tree. Fight the entitlement, fight the stereotypes, treat other people like human beings instead of prizes or goals, and do away with the worst of this stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 21:56:23 GMT -5
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 9, 2020 22:06:08 GMT -5
How do I get a non-threatning Genitalia? How can you spot it?DETAILS Seth Rollins?
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Post by Jacy Derangement Syndrome on Jan 9, 2020 22:13:48 GMT -5
They could never have a less threatening genitalia than me
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 9, 2020 22:17:55 GMT -5
One thing that could help would be to get rid of the stupid social stigma of being a male virgin. Sex isn't the end all be all in life. You say that, but have you tried it? It's the Bee's Knees! I am being facetious, if any of you didn't figure that out. I mean, what I said isn't wrong but it isn't that big of a deal.
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Post by Perd on Jan 9, 2020 22:37:20 GMT -5
Every time I’ve ever read the term “threatening genitailia” happened today. You complete me, FAN.
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Post by XIII on Jan 9, 2020 22:46:42 GMT -5
Welp Threatening Genitalia is now the name of my death metal band
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Post by FinalGwen on Jan 9, 2020 22:49:25 GMT -5
This is what threatening genitalia looks like.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jan 9, 2020 23:02:05 GMT -5
Coincidentally I just read in the latest issue of Psychology Today thst showering far less might be a future key to rebuilding an immune system and defending against disease So homey might be inadvertently doing himself a favor whilst remaining stank. Crippling depression is finally good for something! Never made this guy any less adorable
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Post by Cyno on Jan 9, 2020 23:06:44 GMT -5
One thing that could help would be to get rid of the stupid social stigma of being a male virgin. Sex isn't the end all be all in life. Virginity as a social construct is outdated and in a lot of cases, actively harmful to all sexes. I'd be fine with it being killed altogether, with an exception made for Rocky Horror Picture Show viewings.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 23:44:35 GMT -5
To one person your the “nice guy” to someone else your the “asshole.”
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 0:03:17 GMT -5
Let me differentiate between incels and "nice guys," and explain why I feel sorry for the former while hating the latter.
A lot of the obnoxious behavior among the incel crowd is a result of learned and reinforced helplessness within online communities. I know this because I lurked a prominent incel subreddit for quite some time (it was a dark time in my life that led to suicidal thoughts - I'm in therapy now thankfully), and I can tell you that those environments are utterly and completely toxic. Take a socially awkward, probably unhygienic young man. He strikes out with a woman, probably not for the first time. His complaints are undoubtedly childish and simplistic ("women only like jerks!") but it's all rooted in the fact that he feels bad about himself. So he goes to an incel community which tells him "yes you're an utter failure, but you never had a chance to begin with, the deck is stacked against you because of your race/height/bone structure, all you can do is either kill yourself or laugh at all the normies." Now, he's got a gigantic chip on his shoulder and is probably way more vocal about how all women are thots or whatever, but his dislike of himself has been amplified into full-on self-loathing. The incel community can take someone who could almost certainly get a date or have sex if certain conditions were met (which could range from going to therapy, to making friends, to simply a new haircut and wardrobe) and turns them into misanthropic rejects unfit for society.
The incels who commit violence or harass women are of course beyond saving, but most of 'em are really just men with severe self-esteem issues partaking in a community that reinforces those self-esteem issues until it becomes the defining element of their personality. And while it's not a great tragedy of the world or anything, I feel bad dog piling on some socially awkward dude who desperately wants intimacy but believes he's too deeply flawed to ever experience it. Because I've been there, and don't wanna' crap on some dude who wasn't able to escape the same pit I was in.
"Nice guys" are a different story. While undoubtedly a lot of their manipulative tactics come from a similar sense of self-loathing as the incels, it's still manipulation, and their attempts at seduction under the guise of friendship stigmatize the idea of opposite sex friendships and make things that much harder for genuinely nice guys. Not to toot my own horn but most of my friends are women, and there's been so many instances where I've doubted myself or worried that something I said or did would come off as creepy, on account of these fedora-clad man-children poisoning the well. So in the words of Bad Luck Fale, **** em. Not literally though.
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Post by agent817 on Jan 10, 2020 0:42:48 GMT -5
Okay, what would you call a guy like myself? A guy who just doesn't have much of a drive to meet women. I mean, I would get attracted to some, but for the most part, I don't feel like meeting women is a priority. I remember a guy who is only two years older than I am giving me shit about how I don't seem interested in meeting women, or getting laid for that matter. It's like it's a priority to get some laid. Not only that, it seems he is affected by my lack of interest. It's not important to me right now, but I don't know why he should care.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 10, 2020 1:11:39 GMT -5
I'm now picturing a chart of threat levels for genitalia where 1 is "Mitch Bennett" and 10 is "The dude in the sauna it's apparently okay to look at".
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Post by romanstylesiii on Jan 10, 2020 1:11:44 GMT -5
Communities like that are reasons I only visit non-serious reddits/forums like this one. No social issues are going to be solved in an online debate.
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