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Post by Spider2024 on Jan 9, 2020 17:19:16 GMT -5
"I'm a nice guy, why can't these bitches appreciate that???" "Non threatening genitalia" ...JFC, you literally always take a "f*** you, male gender" position on social issues.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 9, 2020 17:22:32 GMT -5
Now I'm far from an expert on the subject so I openly admit that I may be wrong, but I don't think MGTOW's really belong grouped with other "entitled" men. From what I understand, they are simply men that choose to be single instead of spending their lives trying to find a wife and please women. They decided to just say "f*** it" and focus on their own happiness. Maybe there's a darker side to it that I haven't researched, but they seem like they are just independent men. The core belief of the MGTOW community is that feminism has poisoned society, where everything has an anti-men bias. Someone who does the kind of thing you describe generally isn't part of that community, though a good number of the more committed MGTOWs do swear off any kind of relationships with women. That's pretty much it.
To put it in terms people can understand better, the "nice guy" is the Eevee of sexual entitlement.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 9, 2020 17:24:56 GMT -5
Woman here. It is absolutely still a thing.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 9, 2020 17:25:41 GMT -5
Spoiler: if you think women owe you attention because you are a nice guy-that makes you not a nice guy I mean, I was involuntarily celibate for the first 20 years of my life. I may have gotten jealous of guys who got to have the things I wanted (that was sex with women, in case you missed that), but at no time did I feel like I was being denied my birthright by ANYBODY. I was very confident that I wasn't a sex-having guy because I did not attract any sex-having gals. Full stop. The person who was keeping me from getting busy was the same ugly bastard I saw in the mirror every morning. I also thought that I would simply be the nice guy who would get the girl. I mean, I'd like to think I am always nice, even today, but I definitely have had my shitty moments through the years. I did not think that would guarantee that it would work, but I was generally a nice enough guy so I cranked that shit to 11. I sure was a nice guy. Girls even seemed to like being around me....as a friend. You know, since I was such a friendly guy. I even got the "some lucky girl is going to be so happy with you some day" line several times, but it did not really do much for me. I did not get bitter about it. No, I knew the issue was still with me. I didn't get the girl because I didn't interest them that way. That was on me, not them or the guys that they were attracted to. I eventually stopped trying for that crap. I got extremely depressed (not because I wasn't getting any, but the loneliness certainly did not help). I took a few months having a pity party for myself, then realized that no matter how depressed I may have been the Sun kept coming up each day (the bastard), forcing me to live another day in my life. I took stock of my own life, worked at improving some of the things that I did not like about myself, and simply lived my best life. I defined myself by the person I was, not what I wanted people to think of me. I still was a nice guy, but that was simply because I enjoyed interacting with people like that. I did nerdy things because I enjoyed them (they would not become cool for a few more decades, sadly). I focused on improving my grades because I knew I was smart enough to do better, which to my relief I did. I have now been married for over 20 years to a nice, pretty lady. I even get to be a sex-having guy from time to time, but that is a bonus, not the goal. The potentially creepy "nice" guy that I was probably would not have understood that. Life is not like the movies, where you beat the bad guy and get the girl. No, life isn't like that at all; it's about being the best person you can be for yourself, interacting with others in ways that improve both of your lives, and not wasting your limited time looking for someone to blame for things not being perfect. Unfortunately, Hollywood doesn't make that movie. I guess that it might not sell as well as "Win and get laid!".
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Post by XIII on Jan 9, 2020 17:30:19 GMT -5
Not sure where these dudes are going wrong but sex is abundant and plentiful you just have to put in a little bit of effort and it helps to know what you’re doing when you actually get a shot of lust. women will want you. Women can sense that stuff.
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Post by Mecca on Jan 9, 2020 17:47:30 GMT -5
I think some of that stuff will never go away, there will be guys who have this issue just the same as their are women who do the same. Humans are to flawed to ever escape these simple problems tons of them fall into.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Jan 9, 2020 17:57:21 GMT -5
I grew out of this years ago. It's easier to not give a shit and just enjoy your life. If you find yourself in the company of a woman, that's a rare feat.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 9, 2020 18:18:16 GMT -5
"I'm a nice guy, why can't these bitches appreciate that???" "Non threatening genitalia" ...JFC, you literally always take a "f*** you, male gender" position on social issues. You must have me confused with someone else, or be intentionally obtuse if you gleaned such an opinion from two quotes which you have obviously misunderstood completely.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 9, 2020 18:21:29 GMT -5
How do I get a non-threatning Genitalia? How can you spot it?DETAILS Seth Rollins?
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Jan 9, 2020 18:35:37 GMT -5
How do I get a non-threatning Genitalia? How can you spot it?DETAILS Seth Rollins? Goddamn, Australia's got nothing on that burn.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jan 9, 2020 19:03:10 GMT -5
The graphics in OPs post are trash.
It’s weird. Cause to me “the nice guy” and “incel” thing seem like completely different things. But I’m a 31 year old that feels 61, so maybe that’s just me. I know there are people that claim to be incels but the concept is strange to me. And a while back I was thinking to myself if it’s really a thing. A straight male that says they’re deliberately staying away from it..just sounds like someone struggling with it and trying to bypass the “middle-man” (girl?). Which, hey, whatever. Do you, I guess? One of my former best friends claimed for years and years he was “A-Sexual” when what was probably occurring (through known anecdotes and conclusions reached by most of our group) was he was gay but had to remain “in the closet” cause his Asian family was very “old-school” culture and looked down upon homosexuality. And he was never bitter towards women, obviously.
Closest example I can think of is a friend who seems very introverted, very emotional, seems to try a lil extra hard with girls, and gets mopey when turned down. Dunno if he’s still a “nice guy” or whatever, lives in a different state now.
What I think of when it comes to “nice guys” is these two dudes I know, who are almost too nice to a fault. Are constantly surrounding themselves with girls, they go out. They’re both very extroverted, social and upbeat, but I’ve known both now for over ten years, and they haven’t been able to get in a relationship. “Friend-zone”, whatever ya wanna call it. But they too, don’t resent women for it as a whole or get bitter or mad. They just seem to be hurt momentarily about it and then continue being their nice, uplifted selves.
As for “the nice guy that expects sex”, I have no doubt there’s dudes like that out there. There’s probably a lot going on there besides “just not getting any” but it’s absolutely not a healthy mentality.
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Post by Spider2024 on Jan 9, 2020 19:13:34 GMT -5
...JFC, you literally always take a "f*** you, male gender" position on social issues. You must have me confused with someone else, or be intentionally obtuse if you gleaned such an opinion from two quotes which you have obviously misunderstood completely. You say that, but you didn't even try to clarify what you meant. So you basically did nothing to fix whatever misunderstanding there was or might've been.
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Post by cjh on Jan 9, 2020 19:21:07 GMT -5
The graphics in OPs post are trash. It’s weird. Cause to me “the nice guy” and “incel” thing seem like completely different things. But I’m a 31 year old that feels 61, so maybe that’s just me. I know there are people that claim to be incels but the concept is strange to me. And a while back I was thinking to myself if it’s really a thing. A straight male that says they’re deliberately staying away from it..just sounds like someone struggling with it and trying to bypass the “middle-man” (girl?). Which, hey, whatever. Do you, I guess? One of my former best friends claimed for years and years he was “A-Sexual” when what was probably occurring (through known anecdotes and conclusions reached by most of our group) was he was gay but had to remain “in the closet” cause his Asian family was very “old-school” culture and looked down upon homosexuality. And he was never bitter towards women, obviously.Closest example I can think of is a friend who seems very introverted, very emotional, seems to try a lil extra hard with girls, and gets mopey when turned down. Dunno if he’s still a “nice guy” or whatever, lives in a different state now. What I think of when it comes to “nice guys” is these two dudes I know, who are almost too nice to a fault. Are constantly surrounding themselves with girls, they go out. They’re both very extroverted, social and upbeat, but I’ve known both now for over ten years, and they haven’t been able to get in a relationship. “Friend-zone”, whatever ya wanna call it. But they too, don’t resent women for it as a whole or get bitter or mad. They just seem to be hurt momentarily about it and then continue being their nice, uplifted selves. As for “the nice guy that expects sex”, I have no doubt there’s dudes like that out there. There’s probably a lot going on there besides “just not getting any” but it’s absolutely not a healthy mentality. Incel means " involuntary celibate." They desire a relationship and/or sex but either constantly get rejected or having stopped trying due to past rejection. MGTOWs (Men Going Their Own Way) are avoiding romantic relationships (and possibly sex, too), mostly due to either their own experiences with bad break ups, divorces, and child custody battles or because they have witnessed those things and strongly want to avoid them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 19:25:21 GMT -5
You must have me confused with someone else, or be intentionally obtuse if you gleaned such an opinion from two quotes which you have obviously misunderstood completely. You say that, but you didn't even try to clarify what you meant. So you basically did nothing to fix whatever misunderstanding there was or might've been. Alright you two, drop it.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jan 9, 2020 19:28:01 GMT -5
The graphics in OPs post are trash. It’s weird. Cause to me “the nice guy” and “incel” thing seem like completely different things. But I’m a 31 year old that feels 61, so maybe that’s just me. I know there are people that claim to be incels but the concept is strange to me. And a while back I was thinking to myself if it’s really a thing. A straight male that says they’re deliberately staying away from it..just sounds like someone struggling with it and trying to bypass the “middle-man” (girl?). Which, hey, whatever. Do you, I guess? One of my former best friends claimed for years and years he was “A-Sexual” when what was probably occurring (through known anecdotes and conclusions reached by most of our group) was he was gay but had to remain “in the closet” cause his Asian family was very “old-school” culture and looked down upon homosexuality. And he was never bitter towards women, obviously.Closest example I can think of is a friend who seems very introverted, very emotional, seems to try a lil extra hard with girls, and gets mopey when turned down. Dunno if he’s still a “nice guy” or whatever, lives in a different state now. What I think of when it comes to “nice guys” is these two dudes I know, who are almost too nice to a fault. Are constantly surrounding themselves with girls, they go out. They’re both very extroverted, social and upbeat, but I’ve known both now for over ten years, and they haven’t been able to get in a relationship. “Friend-zone”, whatever ya wanna call it. But they too, don’t resent women for it as a whole or get bitter or mad. They just seem to be hurt momentarily about it and then continue being their nice, uplifted selves. As for “the nice guy that expects sex”, I have no doubt there’s dudes like that out there. There’s probably a lot going on there besides “just not getting any” but it’s absolutely not a healthy mentality. Incel means " involuntary celibate." They desire a relationship and/or sex but either constantly get rejected or having stopped trying due to past rejection. MGTOWs (Men Going Their Own Way) are avoiding romantic relationships (and possibly sex, too), mostly due to either their own experiences with bad break ups, divorces, and child custody battles or because they have witnessed those things and strongly want to avoid them. Ah. Lol..*throws my hands up* Alright. I’m kinda glad being so ignorant on terms and labels these days, but thanks cause I definitely wasn’t clear about the distinction between those two. I kept seeing MGTOW in this thread and kept telling myself “don’t even ask...” haha
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 19:30:37 GMT -5
Always get the pootang pie with these lines:
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Jan 9, 2020 19:42:49 GMT -5
I thankfully never got to the point of that cesspool known as incel culture, but, from about 14-16 and again in my early 20s (basically when I wasn't in a relationship), I definitely felt bitter, angry, and almost depressed that women weren't interested in me. I thought I was a "nice guy" and did everything right and I couldn't understand the lack of interest. I didn't feel entitled to sex, but I did feel entitled to being given a chance to prove myself, and when I didn't get that, I simply concluded that women were drawn only to assholes and I'd probably be single the rest of my life. Thankfully, I learned both those things were false and I'm now a happily married man. But yeah, it's an easy trap to fall into if you're not careful.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 9, 2020 19:50:22 GMT -5
You must have me confused with someone else, or be intentionally obtuse if you gleaned such an opinion from two quotes which you have obviously misunderstood completely. You say that, but you didn't even try to clarify what you meant. So you basically did nothing to fix whatever misunderstanding there was or might've been. I want to remind you that you are on SERIOUS thin ice here.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 9, 2020 20:04:03 GMT -5
Not sure where these dudes are going wrong but sex is abundant and plentiful you just have to put in a little bit of effort and it helps to know what you’re doing when you actually get a shot of lust. women will want you. Women can sense that stuff. Generally the ones that take the attitude that they're owed sex, are ones that think a woman should be completely subservient, and they'd only go for a woman who was like a cross between Kate Upton, and Daisy Ridley. They're toxic. To be clear, I'm not talking about guys that have made the decision to remain single, because they're perfectly happy that way. Guys like that generally have healthy relationships with women, and have absolutely no problems making friends with women.
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Post by Spider2024 on Jan 9, 2020 20:04:44 GMT -5
You say that, but you didn't even try to clarify what you meant. So you basically did nothing to fix whatever misunderstanding there was or might've been. I want to remind you that you are on SERIOUS thin ice here. ...Thank you for that reminder.
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