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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Mar 6, 2020 20:56:19 GMT -5
He may care if attendance is like, a third of what was anticipated and they’ve got to try and cover for a mostly empty space. Mostly I feel bad for the indie companies and wrestlers who are about to feel the pain much more intensely that weekend. I wonder if attendance is already suffering. Raw is in Pittsburgh on March 16th (3:16), and I saw on my local Pittsburgh news last night that they promoted Stone Cold being there. Apparently it will be Austin's first time in the 'Burgh in seventeen years. It was a weird thing to see on the news. One thing to see it hyped on WWE shows, but maybe ticket sales were way low due to fears of huge crowds and the coronavirus. Friend and I talked earlier today about what if they’ve got to cancel live events for the foreseeable future and just tape in a gym or something. Make for some spectacularly awkward viewing. All your timing as a performer in terms of moves and your promos would be completely off with no crowd to work with. It’d be like learning it all over again.
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Post by paulbearer on Mar 6, 2020 20:56:47 GMT -5
Could there be lawsuits agaionst WWE if many people gets the flu in the arena or is this force majeure meaning WWE can not be held responsible should it happen ?
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Mar 6, 2020 21:07:02 GMT -5
Could there be lawsuits agaionst WWE if many people gets the flu in the arena or is this force majeure meaning WWE can not be held responsible should it happen ? I don’t think so, unless the WWE actively worked to downplay the risk. Caveat emptor should protect them otherwise unless someone can prove it was actually a WWE performer or personnel who infected them.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 6, 2020 21:40:47 GMT -5
So, the first instance of WWE changing plans because of coronavirus occurred today. The Bella Twins will not be appearing for their scheduled VIP meet and greets. Given that both are pregnant, they would be at higher risk for the disease. Funny thing is that COVID-19 is not uniquely dangerous to pregnant women, and the virus isn't transferable to their wombs and the fetuses inside. But I can't blame them for not wanting to get sick unnecessarily.
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Post by The Trashman on Mar 6, 2020 22:14:43 GMT -5
I just don't see any way they won't have to cancel.
It is only going to be exponentially worse in 3 weeks and with SXSW cancelled the pressure will mount.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Mar 6, 2020 23:25:48 GMT -5
They’ll have to cancel.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Mar 7, 2020 1:33:40 GMT -5
I’m sure this point has been made already.
But WrestleMania is not another travelling wrestling show. People from various parts of the planet come to this event in great numbers.
And with pandemics the key is stop it from spreading far and wide. Now, it’s not going to be like in Stephen King’s The Stand with a weaponised flu strain that kills almost everybody.
But with people coming in who may or maybe not sick, getting together in one space with maybe sick people, and then once it’s over they go home where ever it is in the world. It just seems irresponsible.
I know the numbers of infected are small, but it’s best to stop the spread before it gets worse.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Mar 7, 2020 1:36:52 GMT -5
I’m sure this point has been made already. But WrestleMania is not another travelling wrestling show. People from various parts of the planet come to this event in great numbers. And with pandemics the key is stop it from spreading far and wide. Now, it’s not going to be like in Stephen King’s The Stand with a weaponised flu strain that kills almost everybody. But with people coming in who may or maybe not sick, getting together in one space with maybe sick people, and then once it’s over they go home where ever it is in the world. It just seems irresponsible. I know the numbers of infected are small, but it’s best to stop the spread before it gets worse. You know, I am of the mind that its the media overblowing the sickness in general. But your quote makes a lot of sense given the attendance at WrestleMania. Unless they intend on testing every single audience member coming through?
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Post by Hypnosis on Mar 7, 2020 14:07:50 GMT -5
How devastating might the Coronavirus be on pro wrestling as a whole should WWE and other companies have to cancel shows next month that same weekend?
Could this last to the end of the year? Will indy wrestlers possibly have to seek another line of work?
I admit this might be paranoid on my part, but I am curious about the long-term future regarding this disease on everyday life.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 7, 2020 14:15:52 GMT -5
The thing with this virus is to take it seriously, but don't panic. The overwhelming majority of healthy, non-elderly adults who get the virus won't have serious complications and at worst will feel like a bad cold or the flu for about a week. Kids will also be fine (if anything, they'll be better off than adults, which is unusual for these types of epidemics). But be considerate towards the elderly or those with chronic health issues or compromised immune systems as they'll be at significantly higher risk for serious or fatal complications. The most dangerous thing about this virus isn't its strength, but how easily it can spread. Yes, inciting riots and people getting paranoid about toilet paper and water bottles is a big overreaction, but brushing it off as nothing is a huge disservice to people around you who aren't as fortunate with their health.
An event like Wrestlemania could be a recipe for disaster if even one person that has the virus attends. A big football stadium's worth of attendance where you're around people for several hours on end. Potentially tens of thousands of people could get infected who in turn go back to their homes and could infect that many more people. The only thing that might help is that the stadium is open air and not domed.
This would be logistically impossible. It's not like the flu where they can stick a swab up your nose and see if you've got it. As of now there's no quick testing process for COVID-19.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 7, 2020 17:10:02 GMT -5
Unless we have people dying in the streets then they're not canceling Mania I saw a tweet from someone earlier that basically said, “If a performer can literally die in the ring on live TV and the show keeps going, then Vince isn’t cancelling WrestleMania over the super-flu.” Vince himself probably wouldn't choose to cancel WrestleMania, but the final says isn't his. If the City of Tampa pulls clearance over concerns about public health and safety, the show's over.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 7, 2020 18:04:01 GMT -5
How devastating might the Coronavirus be on pro wrestling as a whole should WWE and other companies have to cancel shows next month that same weekend? Could this last to the end of the year? Will indy wrestlers possibly have to seek another line of work? I admit this might be paranoid on my part, but I am curious about the long-term future regarding this disease on everyday life. AEW might be impacted less since they just run weekly shows on a national level, though it may affect any chances of running Dynamite shows abroad like in the UK. If it gets worse by May, Double or Nothing could be affected.
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Post by Tenshigure on Mar 7, 2020 18:16:43 GMT -5
This is really precarious because, if this thing takes hold enough to cancel WrestleMania, then surely they’d have to stop running TV as well. Wrestling will just STOP for who knows how long. Not just WWE, but AEW, ROH, Impact, countless indies... All stopped. Stardom, ONE Fighting, and NJPW are running empty arena shows and streaming them to keep their plans going. If it got to that point, I have no doubt that the WWE would simply broadcast their shows from somewhere like the Performance Center to keep them going; same with AEW finding a place to run an "empty arena" show at for the same purpose.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 7, 2020 19:01:02 GMT -5
The thing with this virus is to take it seriously, but don't panic. The overwhelming majority of healthy, non-elderly adults who get the virus won't have serious complications and at worst will feel like a bad cold or the flu for about a week. Kids will also be fine (if anything, they'll be better off than adults, which is unusual for these types of epidemics). But be considerate towards the elderly or those with chronic health issues or compromised immune systems as they'll be at significantly higher risk for serious or fatal complications. The most dangerous thing about this virus isn't its strength, but how easily it can spread. Yes, inciting riots and people getting paranoid about toilet paper and water bottles is a big overreaction, but brushing it off as nothing is a huge disservice to people around you who aren't as fortunate with their health.
An event like Wrestlemania could be a recipe for disaster if even one person that has the virus attends. A big football stadium's worth of attendance where you're around people for several hours on end. Potentially tens of thousands of people could get infected who in turn go back to their homes and could infect that many more people. The only thing that might help is that the stadium is open air and not domed.
This would be logistically impossible. It's not like the flu where they can stick a swab up your nose and see if you've got it. As of now there's no quick testing process for COVID-19.
There’s still thousands upon thousands of people gathering for all manner of sporting events, right this instant. Is it 65,000 in one place? No, but it’s far more people than in various places around the country. Obviously you don’t want people sick and dying if you can prevent it but this virus isn’t even close to touching fatality rates of just the seasonal flu that happen each year that we just accept as life. The hysteria over this virus really needs to calm down.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Mar 7, 2020 20:13:37 GMT -5
The thing with this virus is to take it seriously, but don't panic. The overwhelming majority of healthy, non-elderly adults who get the virus won't have serious complications and at worst will feel like a bad cold or the flu for about a week. Kids will also be fine (if anything, they'll be better off than adults, which is unusual for these types of epidemics). But be considerate towards the elderly or those with chronic health issues or compromised immune systems as they'll be at significantly higher risk for serious or fatal complications. The most dangerous thing about this virus isn't its strength, but how easily it can spread. Yes, inciting riots and people getting paranoid about toilet paper and water bottles is a big overreaction, but brushing it off as nothing is a huge disservice to people around you who aren't as fortunate with their health.
An event like Wrestlemania could be a recipe for disaster if even one person that has the virus attends. A big football stadium's worth of attendance where you're around people for several hours on end. Potentially tens of thousands of people could get infected who in turn go back to their homes and could infect that many more people. The only thing that might help is that the stadium is open air and not domed.
This would be logistically impossible. It's not like the flu where they can stick a swab up your nose and see if you've got it. As of now there's no quick testing process for COVID-19.
There’s still thousands upon thousands of people gathering for all manner of sporting events, right this instant. Is it 65,000 in one place? No, but it’s far more people than in various places around the country. Obviously you don’t want people sick and dying if you can prevent it but this virus isn’t even close to touching fatality rates of just the seasonal flu that happen each year that we just accept as life. The hysteria over this virus really needs to calm down. I’m coming back to this post in a month to laugh.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 7, 2020 20:18:04 GMT -5
The thing with this virus is to take it seriously, but don't panic. The overwhelming majority of healthy, non-elderly adults who get the virus won't have serious complications and at worst will feel like a bad cold or the flu for about a week. Kids will also be fine (if anything, they'll be better off than adults, which is unusual for these types of epidemics). But be considerate towards the elderly or those with chronic health issues or compromised immune systems as they'll be at significantly higher risk for serious or fatal complications. The most dangerous thing about this virus isn't its strength, but how easily it can spread. Yes, inciting riots and people getting paranoid about toilet paper and water bottles is a big overreaction, but brushing it off as nothing is a huge disservice to people around you who aren't as fortunate with their health.
An event like Wrestlemania could be a recipe for disaster if even one person that has the virus attends. A big football stadium's worth of attendance where you're around people for several hours on end. Potentially tens of thousands of people could get infected who in turn go back to their homes and could infect that many more people. The only thing that might help is that the stadium is open air and not domed.
This would be logistically impossible. It's not like the flu where they can stick a swab up your nose and see if you've got it. As of now there's no quick testing process for COVID-19.
There’s still thousands upon thousands of people gathering for all manner of sporting events, right this instant. Is it 65,000 in one place? No, but it’s far more people than in various places around the country. Obviously you don’t want people sick and dying if you can prevent it but this virus isn’t even close to touching fatality rates of just the seasonal flu that happen each year that we just accept as life. The hysteria over this virus really needs to calm down. Uh, current mortality estimates vary from about 1%-3.5% (difficult to determine until we get a full idea of how many people are infected). The annual flu's mortality rate is approximately 0.1%-0.2%.
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Post by The Trashman on Mar 7, 2020 20:30:15 GMT -5
The thing with this virus is to take it seriously, but don't panic. The overwhelming majority of healthy, non-elderly adults who get the virus won't have serious complications and at worst will feel like a bad cold or the flu for about a week. Kids will also be fine (if anything, they'll be better off than adults, which is unusual for these types of epidemics). But be considerate towards the elderly or those with chronic health issues or compromised immune systems as they'll be at significantly higher risk for serious or fatal complications. The most dangerous thing about this virus isn't its strength, but how easily it can spread. Yes, inciting riots and people getting paranoid about toilet paper and water bottles is a big overreaction, but brushing it off as nothing is a huge disservice to people around you who aren't as fortunate with their health.
An event like Wrestlemania could be a recipe for disaster if even one person that has the virus attends. A big football stadium's worth of attendance where you're around people for several hours on end. Potentially tens of thousands of people could get infected who in turn go back to their homes and could infect that many more people. The only thing that might help is that the stadium is open air and not domed.
This would be logistically impossible. It's not like the flu where they can stick a swab up your nose and see if you've got it. As of now there's no quick testing process for COVID-19.
There’s still thousands upon thousands of people gathering for all manner of sporting events, right this instant. Is it 65,000 in one place? No, but it’s far more people than in various places around the country. Obviously you don’t want people sick and dying if you can prevent it but this virus isn’t even close to touching fatality rates of just the seasonal flu that happen each year that we just accept as life. The hysteria over this virus really needs to calm down. Uh the mortality rate is much much higher than the flu. Furthermore when have they ever considered empty arenas for the NCAA tournament and the NBA?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 7, 2020 20:31:00 GMT -5
There’s still thousands upon thousands of people gathering for all manner of sporting events, right this instant. Is it 65,000 in one place? No, but it’s far more people than in various places around the country. Obviously you don’t want people sick and dying if you can prevent it but this virus isn’t even close to touching fatality rates of just the seasonal flu that happen each year that we just accept as life. The hysteria over this virus really needs to calm down. Uh, current mortality estimates vary from about 1%-3.5% (difficult to determine until we get a full idea of how many people are infected). The annual flu's morality rate is approximately 0.1%-0.2%. 61,000 for flu deaths is the top end number since 2010, with 12, 000 as the low end.
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Post by wildojinx on Mar 7, 2020 20:41:15 GMT -5
If they have to do the empty arena WM, couldnt they just have employees, road agents, and heck, even wrestlers fill the seats? It wouldnt fill the arena (heck, there's probably more seats there than WWE employees), but it would at least give the impression of a normal show. At least Roman and Goldberg wont have to worry about getting booed out of the arena.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 7, 2020 21:26:57 GMT -5
Uh, current mortality estimates vary from about 1%-3.5% (difficult to determine until we get a full idea of how many people are infected). The annual flu's morality rate is approximately 0.1%-0.2%. 61,000 for flu deaths is the top end number since 2010, with 12, 000 as the low end. Right, approximately a 0.1-0.2% mortality rate. If corona spreads to similar levels as the flu, which given its highly contagious nature it might, then in the US you’d be looking at least at six figures dead.
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