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Post by WoodStoner1 on Sept 13, 2022 11:53:11 GMT -5
She has the pipes. And looks good as Airel. But I'm always cautious about Disney reboots. It's always a crapshoot. But I think I'm going to have to watch this one just to stick it to the racists Meh if it's another mediocre remake, I'll do what I always do and ignore it. I support women but didn't make a statement by watching Ghostbusters 2016. (Say who's Ursula again?)
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Post by mrtuesday on Sept 13, 2022 12:01:37 GMT -5
She has the pipes. And looks good as Airel. But I'm always cautious about Disney reboots. It's always a crapshoot. But I think I'm going to have to watch this one just to stick it to the racists Meh if it's another mediocre remake, I'll do what I always do and ignore it. I support women but didn't make a statement by watching Ghostbusters 2016. (Say who's Ursula again?) I also have to see it to stick it to the fatphobics.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Sept 13, 2022 12:38:55 GMT -5
Meh if it's another mediocre remake, I'll do what I always do and ignore it. I support women but didn't make a statement by watching Ghostbusters 2016. (Say who's Ursula again?) I also have to see it to stick it to the fatphobics. Enabling MM being a clown cause she's a PSW? It'll work somehow....
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Sept 13, 2022 14:29:19 GMT -5
When Melissa's not doing her "fat lady falls down" stuff she can be pretty good.
(also provided she has a decent director behind her.)
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Sept 13, 2022 14:44:27 GMT -5
When Melissa's not doing her "fat lady falls down" stuff she can be pretty good. (also provided she has a decent director behind her.) Indeed. Too bad most people do the other thing.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Sept 14, 2022 7:08:26 GMT -5
She has the pipes. And looks good as Airel. But I'm always cautious about Disney reboots. It's always a crapshoot. But I think I'm going to have to watch this one just to stick it to the racists Meh if it's another mediocre remake, I'll do what I always do and ignore it. I support women but didn't make a statement by watching Ghostbusters 2016. (Say who's Ursula again?) Have any of the Disney "live action" remakes not been mediocre? Maybe Jungle Book?
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Post by thechase on Sept 14, 2022 7:23:23 GMT -5
She has the pipes. And looks good as Airel. But I'm always cautious about Disney reboots. It's always a crapshoot. But I think I'm going to have to watch this one just to stick it to the racists Meh if it's another mediocre remake, I'll do what I always do and ignore it. I support women but didn't make a statement by watching Ghostbusters 2016. (Say who's Ursula again?) Exactly. As much as some people like to think this is the time to change the world, the truth is it's always going to go back to the way it's always been. People think this woke climate is new, it's not, we had this all in the 90s and it was much better, and far less radicalized. Making these movies diverse and inclusive doesn't change the fact they're utter crap with no drive, no heart and no soul, they are a waste of time and people's profit. If people are treating these movies more as a protest than a good time, sorry, there's nothing worse than an aging hipster and they're just feeding precisely into what the machine wants. And by the machine I don't mean the studios, but the naysayers and fandom menace who profit from their outrage videos, the ones with the persecution complexes whenever they're labelled an 'ist' or 'phobe' by these people. Their brand is negativity and they have more influence than these studios will ever muster.
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Post by Paul on Sept 14, 2022 8:26:17 GMT -5
She's a terrible actress and an awful choice for the role.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Sept 14, 2022 9:34:26 GMT -5
Meh if it's another mediocre remake, I'll do what I always do and ignore it. I support women but didn't make a statement by watching Ghostbusters 2016. (Say who's Ursula again?) Have any of the Disney "live action" remakes not been mediocre? Maybe Jungle Book? And figures that's the one I never saw. Other than that they pretty much run the range of bland and mediocre like BATB to outrageous and bad, like the original Maleficent. Oddly enough, the live action reboot I liked the best is Rescue Rangers.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Sept 14, 2022 9:38:40 GMT -5
Meh if it's another mediocre remake, I'll do what I always do and ignore it. I support women but didn't make a statement by watching Ghostbusters 2016. (Say who's Ursula again?) Exactly. As much as some people like to think this is the time to change the world, the truth is it's always going to go back to the way it's always been. People think this woke climate is new, it's not, we had this all in the 90s and it was much better, and far less radicalized. Making these movies diverse and inclusive doesn't change the fact they're utter crap with no drive, no heart and no soul, they are a waste of time and people's profit. If people are treating these movies more as a protest than a good time, sorry, there's nothing worse than an aging hipster and they're just feeding precisely into what the machine wants. And by the machine I don't mean the studios, but the naysayers and fandom menace who profit from their outrage videos, the ones with the persecution complexes whenever they're labelled an 'ist' or 'phobe' by these people. Their brand is negativity and they have more influence than these studios will ever muster. Don't know if it's up to me to place labels on movements, but yeah....same stuff was accomplished in decades past, and it was more.... subtle? Organic? And they didn't have to change existing characters. Rather they did it oddly enough with existing characters. Take the DCAU Justice League. They created a diverse and iconic team by remembering they had John Stewart and Shayera to include instead of Hal and Katar. The X-Men universe was another excellent example. Doing it the way they do now only invites the clashes you describe. And not both sides are innocent (with GB16, Feig fanned the flames with the "if you don't like this, you don't like women" rhetoric)
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Post by Joker on Sept 14, 2022 9:46:21 GMT -5
I'm waiting until I see the live action Sebastian the Crab in a trailer before making any judgement on this.
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Post by lucas_lee on Sept 14, 2022 10:26:18 GMT -5
Exactly. As much as some people like to think this is the time to change the world, the truth is it's always going to go back to the way it's always been. People think this woke climate is new, it's not, we had this all in the 90s and it was much better, and far less radicalized. Making these movies diverse and inclusive doesn't change the fact they're utter crap with no drive, no heart and no soul, they are a waste of time and people's profit. If people are treating these movies more as a protest than a good time, sorry, there's nothing worse than an aging hipster and they're just feeding precisely into what the machine wants. And by the machine I don't mean the studios, but the naysayers and fandom menace who profit from their outrage videos, the ones with the persecution complexes whenever they're labelled an 'ist' or 'phobe' by these people. Their brand is negativity and they have more influence than these studios will ever muster. Don't know if it's up to me to place labels on movements, but yeah....same stuff was accomplished in decades past, and it was more.... subtle? Organic? And they didn't have to change existing characters. Rather they did it oddly enough with existing characters. Take the DCAU Justice League. They created a diverse and iconic team by remembering they had John Stewart and Shayera to include instead of Hal and Katar. The X-Men universe was another excellent example. Doing it the way they do now only invites the clashes you describe. And not both sides are innocent (with GB16, Feig fanned the flames with the "if you don't like this, you don't like women" rhetoric) I'm sorry but if thats seen as bad in terms of one side. The other side is one that supports bigotry and possibly racism. Ill take Feigs side anyday. And the only reason stuff has gotten so bad is youtube and twitter giving a platform to chuds like the Critical Drinker, The Quartering, and Ben Shapiro who get to peddle their hatred and moronic takes of woke this and woke that. And back then even in the 90s the majority of movies were still led by white males, finally people are seeing there's something wrong with that. The pushback against diverse casting is ridiculous. No one batted an eye when Heston played Egyptians or Mexicans, or John Wayne playing Gheghis Khan, or Laurence Oliver donning blackface to play Othello. So until their rhetoric stops, people won't and rightfully so be content with the state of Hollywood. Even now in a so called more "woke" era POC actors and actresses receive backlash for getting starring roles. Also white actors and actresses are still dominating the silver screen and getting the majority of the awards too. So things really haven't changed people are just more outgoing with their bigotry.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Sept 14, 2022 11:18:04 GMT -5
Don't know if it's up to me to place labels on movements, but yeah....same stuff was accomplished in decades past, and it was more.... subtle? Organic? And they didn't have to change existing characters. Rather they did it oddly enough with existing characters. Take the DCAU Justice League. They created a diverse and iconic team by remembering they had John Stewart and Shayera to include instead of Hal and Katar. The X-Men universe was another excellent example. Doing it the way they do now only invites the clashes you describe. And not both sides are innocent (with GB16, Feig fanned the flames with the "if you don't like this, you don't like women" rhetoric) I'm sorry but if thats seen as bad in terms of one side. The other side is one that supports bigotry and possibly racism. Ill take Feigs side anyday. And the only reason stuff has gotten so bad is youtube and twitter giving a platform to chuds like the Critical Drinker, The Quartering, and Ben Shapiro who get to peddle their hatred and moronic takes of woke this and woke that. And back then even in the 90s the majority of movies were still led by white males, finally people are seeing there's something wrong with that. The pushback against diverse casting is ridiculous. No one batted an eye when Heston played Egyptians or Mexicans, or John Wayne playing Gheghis Khan, or Laurence Oliver donning blackface to play Othello. So until their rhetoric stops, people won't and rightfully so be content with the state of Hollywood. Even now in a so called more "woke" era POC actors and actresses receive backlash for getting starring roles. Also white actors and actresses are still dominating the silver screen and getting the majority of the awards too. So things really haven't changed people are just more outgoing with their bigotry. There's other causes and people too...we just can't discuss them here. Not being there from the beginning, how did 2016 hate begin? With it just being a bad remake, or being all female?
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Post by lucas_lee on Sept 14, 2022 11:24:39 GMT -5
I'm sorry but if thats seen as bad in terms of one side. The other side is one that supports bigotry and possibly racism. Ill take Feigs side anyday. And the only reason stuff has gotten so bad is youtube and twitter giving a platform to chuds like the Critical Drinker, The Quartering, and Ben Shapiro who get to peddle their hatred and moronic takes of woke this and woke that. And back then even in the 90s the majority of movies were still led by white males, finally people are seeing there's something wrong with that. The pushback against diverse casting is ridiculous. No one batted an eye when Heston played Egyptians or Mexicans, or John Wayne playing Gheghis Khan, or Laurence Oliver donning blackface to play Othello. So until their rhetoric stops, people won't and rightfully so be content with the state of Hollywood. Even now in a so called more "woke" era POC actors and actresses receive backlash for getting starring roles. Also white actors and actresses are still dominating the silver screen and getting the majority of the awards too. So things really haven't changed people are just more outgoing with their bigotry. There's other causes and people too...we just can't discuss them here. Not being there from the beginning, how did 2016 hate begin? With it just being a bad remake, or being all female? I think it was due to it being all female and it being remake. Plus the AVGNs saying he won't review it blew that issue up. Which is shocking because he usually stays out of controversy but it just stoked the flames and caused it to erupt.
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Post by Schizo on Sept 14, 2022 11:42:23 GMT -5
It’s this what humanity has come down to?!. Grown adults on social media throwing a rage fit over The Little Mermaid?! LOL! this is like, really really pathetic. It’s a kids movie. All the kids, the target demographic, who are going to go see it won’t give a shit what Ariel looks like lol!. Besides, the characters main attributes was her singing voice, I have no doubt they picked the right actress for the role.
People need to f***ing grow up
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Post by chrom on Sept 14, 2022 11:48:35 GMT -5
I'm sorry but if thats seen as bad in terms of one side. The other side is one that supports bigotry and possibly racism. Ill take Feigs side anyday. And the only reason stuff has gotten so bad is youtube and twitter giving a platform to chuds like the Critical Drinker, The Quartering, and Ben Shapiro who get to peddle their hatred and moronic takes of woke this and woke that. And back then even in the 90s the majority of movies were still led by white males, finally people are seeing there's something wrong with that. The pushback against diverse casting is ridiculous. No one batted an eye when Heston played Egyptians or Mexicans, or John Wayne playing Gheghis Khan, or Laurence Oliver donning blackface to play Othello. So until their rhetoric stops, people won't and rightfully so be content with the state of Hollywood. Even now in a so called more "woke" era POC actors and actresses receive backlash for getting starring roles. Also white actors and actresses are still dominating the silver screen and getting the majority of the awards too. So things really haven't changed people are just more outgoing with their bigotry. There's other causes and people too...we just can't discuss them here. Not being there from the beginning, how did 2016 hate begin? With it just being a bad remake, or being all female? People didn't like it because of the all Female cast, they disliked it because it was a bad movie
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Post by lucas_lee on Sept 14, 2022 11:54:04 GMT -5
There's other causes and people too...we just can't discuss them here. Not being there from the beginning, how did 2016 hate begin? With it just being a bad remake, or being all female? People didn't like it because of the all Female cast, they disliked it because it was a bad movie It was before the movie released the vitriol started especially with YouTube starting to take off as a platform to take off. Im not denying the movie is bad, but people didn't see the film before they were convinced its a "woke" movie. Which now has become a weapon a certain political party likes to use to dismiss other points of view or media.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Sept 14, 2022 12:12:34 GMT -5
Meh. It’s still going to make an ass ton of money, just as Captain Marvel and the latest Star Wars did or whatever people wanna bitch about.
I thought that 2016 GB movie was pretty average overall. The 1984 movie is much funnier but I didn’t find anything too offensive about it.
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Post by thechase on Sept 14, 2022 12:29:13 GMT -5
There's other causes and people too...we just can't discuss them here. Not being there from the beginning, how did 2016 hate begin? With it just being a bad remake, or being all female? I think it was due to it being all female and it being remake. Plus the AVGNs saying he won't review it blew that issue up. Which is shocking because he usually stays out of controversy but it just stoked the flames and caused it to erupt. I love also how that move from James didn't actually affect him at all and his channel and series grew and grew.
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Post by lucas_lee on Sept 14, 2022 12:33:45 GMT -5
I think it was due to it being all female and it being remake. Plus the AVGNs saying he won't review it blew that issue up. Which is shocking because he usually stays out of controversy but it just stoked the flames and caused it to erupt. I love also how that move from James didn't actually affect him at all and his channel and series grew and grew. Yeah it also helps James is a pretty cool and shy dude who doesn't feel the need to put himself out there on social media. And hasn't been outted like Channel Awesome was.
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