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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 4, 2023 16:37:07 GMT -5
I felt about this like I did Rocky Balboa was to Rocky V- a nice little send-off to a character after what was previously the worst movie in the franchise.
It was pretty good. I'm baffled it cost 300 million.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jul 4, 2023 16:40:43 GMT -5
I think more than anything it comes down to the movies just not having that much cultural cache with young people. Is how the ticket sales skew and, I know one person isn't a valid sample of the population and all, but personally I'm coming up on 33 and I've never seen any of these movies. Know them from pop culture references certainly but there's never been anything that's made me want to go out of my way to watch them.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 4, 2023 16:44:08 GMT -5
Yeah unless you're Gen X you do not give 2 shits about Indy. Skull came out 15 years ago, if you're 21 now, you were six then. Crusade was what 89? It's just a huge gulf between the last time a good movie in the franchise came out& it's had next to no presence in pop culture since outside of one bad movie previously
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Post by BorneAgain on Jul 4, 2023 16:53:21 GMT -5
Adding to that, unlike a Tom Cruise who had kept up an action movie presence (to the point where Top Gun Maverick had hype even from young people because he's a consistent exciting movie commodity outside stuff like the Mummy) Harrison Ford has not really done that. Some solid roles and obviously his big role in Force Awakens, but not the kind of must see exciting movie pedigree that a Cruise or Keanu Reeves has.
So between a character that's increasingly had less resonance to younger audiences due to the lack of media, and an actor that is largely seen as an 80 year old man that was in adventure/action movies decades ago?
You don't really have a solid formula for major success unless your budget is modest or you have really strong word of mouth.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 4, 2023 17:02:45 GMT -5
And does Indy really even exist in other media currently? TV shows, video games, etc.?
It's like Indiana Jones lays dormant like a cicada for a decade+ then expects people to run out and see the movie.
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Post by KingPooper on Jul 4, 2023 17:09:18 GMT -5
I see almost every blockbuster that comes out, I enjoy turning my brain off for a few hours and seeing explosions. This was probably one of the better ones to come out this year, nowhere near as good as GOTG 3 or Across the Spider-Verse, but better than The Flash or Transformers.
It does feel like this movie came out 10 years too late and was kinda unnecessary. Still better than Crystal Skull (though I did really enjoy the first 20 minutes of that film, and am one of the few people that liked Nuke the Fridge.) I thought Waller did great. Though how many chase scenes does a movie need? It felt they kept adding them pad the run time and Harrison’s limitations.
It does feel like this movie only exists because Disney bought the rights and had to make a movie before Harrison dies and they wanted to give the character a better send off than the last film that people hated.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 4, 2023 17:43:41 GMT -5
With Red Letter Media I pretty much only watch Best of the Worst. Don't really pay attention to their modern day stuff at all. Just on that briefly The crappy youtube channels (drinker, nerdrotic) are all "feminist...sjw..woke...PWB insufferable feminist ruined movie and my childhood blah blah" The RLM boys review wasn't that at all. That's why I like them so much. They even liked Phoebe Waller Bridge if not so much the movie as a whole. They're manchildren but likeable ones and not completely embarrassing ones to me anyway.
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Post by KingPooper on Jul 4, 2023 19:50:34 GMT -5
Also the theatre was completely packed today. Haven’t seen that much this summer.
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Post by Giul T. on Jul 4, 2023 20:30:33 GMT -5
Went to see it. It was fine. It was a turn off your brain kinda film.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jul 5, 2023 0:19:24 GMT -5
My thing is why is Indiana Jones costing 300 million to make?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 5, 2023 0:36:26 GMT -5
My thing is why is Indiana Jones costing 300 million to make? Extensive location shooting in England, Scotland, Morocco, and Sicily during the worst of the pandemic, which ballooned costs, plus copious amounts of CGI.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jul 5, 2023 4:16:47 GMT -5
There was no demand for it, nobody wanted an 80 year old Indy doing much of anything, especially not after Crystal Skull. There wasn't some deep, complex lore set up that people needed more of, the three originals were more than enough to tell his story on the big screen.
If Disney really had to do more Indy, a young Indiana jones style prequel, or even a reboot series would have sufficed.
It reminds me of the Fallout Boy thread, just because you can make a sequel to something, doesn't mean you're going to do it well, or even that you should.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Jul 5, 2023 19:49:04 GMT -5
TLC was the perfect ending. Everything since has been unnecessary. No, I don't want no scrub A scrub is a guy that can't get no love from me Hangin' out the passenger side of his best friend's ride Trying to holla at me I don't want no scrub A scrub is a guy that can't get no love from me Hangin' out the passenger side of his best friend's ride Trying to holla at me
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Jul 6, 2023 6:20:42 GMT -5
Saw it yesterday, it was alright nothing too great, nothing really bad. Opening section and morocco were my favourite parts. Didn't really find any charm in any of the supporting cast apart from Mads Mikkelsen.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jul 7, 2023 2:51:18 GMT -5
People should picket this movie at the theaters and bring signs that say, "Bring Back The Magic Potatoes!!!" And have a picture of an angry potato on them.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jul 8, 2023 14:21:05 GMT -5
So I just got back from this. Didn't see it last weekend because I was in rough shape with the flu. It's been out for a week now so I'm not gonna bother with spoilers. Over-all it was an unnecessary but fun romp. I do have some complaints, because why would I be on the internet if I didn't? First of all, it was too long. Or at least I thought it was too long. I've been saying that a lot lately about a lot of movies. Is it just me? The stuff in NYC just didn't click for me. I mean, it's one thing to see Indy's antics in some desert or forest during the comic book version of World War II, but it feels a whole lot sillier seeing it in more relatively recent times on a city block not very far from where my office is. I'm still not a fan of how they wrote out Mutt. I'm not defending the character, and I'm certainly not defending Shia LeBeouf as a human being, but it still felt mean-spirited. There's a twelve year time gap between this and Crystal Skull, there's no reason they couldn't have recast the part and adjusted his personality some. There are a lot of secondary characters who's stories just kinda go nowhere. Shaunette Renee Wilson's secret agent character was heavily built up in the first half of the movie, and she doesn't amount to anything in the story before she's just unceremoniously killed off by the Nazi's. The giant Nazi guy also feels like he was taken out of the story way too easily. I can also say the same about Sallah, who feels like he was only in the movie so he could go "hey everybody, remember me?". Also, aren't Indy and Helena still wanted for many crimes at the end of the movie? I mean, there was enough information out there for the authorities to piece together that they (or at least Indy) were innocent, but we never saw any resolution to it. I'd hate to think that two minutes after the ending the apartment gets raided by the cops and they just find a naked Indy and Marion in the middle of old person sex.
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Post by ace on Jul 9, 2023 14:56:20 GMT -5
Insidious beat it at the box office this weekend
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Post by wildojinx on Jul 9, 2023 19:45:35 GMT -5
As for the Indy skews too old argument, the Golden Girls, Murder She Wrote, and Columbo are huge with millenials currently, and the cast members of those shows (though I dont know how old Peter Falk was when he started as Columbo), were old when they were on the air.
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Post by ace on Jul 9, 2023 19:59:13 GMT -5
As for the Indy skews too old argument, the Golden Girls, Murder She Wrote, and Columbo are huge with millenials currently, and the cast members of those shows (though I dont know how old Peter Falk was when he started as Columbo), were old when they were on the air. I don’t think you get what people are talking about. It’s not that young people hate old things. It’s that Indiana Jones isn’t going to draw money from them because any nostalgia they’d have from it is Kingdom of the Crystal Steaming Pile of Shit. Watching Golden Girls on Hulu isn’t the same as buying a ticket to something you aren’t invested in. Watching media FROM a past era is also wildly different than watching something new ABOUT a past era. Authenticity
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Post by Push R Truth on Jul 10, 2023 10:24:58 GMT -5
.... I'd like to see an Indiana Jones non-Disney+ Series where Indy is recast to be age appropriate and it follows his wartime stuff. Then if it's popular you can get into the "traditional" Indy shit.
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