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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Jul 30, 2021 7:34:18 GMT -5
I'm growing more to the idea of Full Gear than I was at the start of the day and whilst it's not what I'd do, I'm not completely against it as I was. I’m not totally against it either. The build up between All Out and Full Gear is only two months so it’s NOT far off from what should happen. I am disappointed that it’s potentially not at All Out. All I really care about is Page winning. The pop will be enormous regardless where it is. But it still a little disappointing.
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Post by Blade on Jul 30, 2021 7:36:05 GMT -5
There's no way it's Christian, he's been tooling around with Matt Hardy and Jurassic Express for months, and he'd absolutely get turned on by the crowd for stealing Hangman's spot and there's no way Khan doesn't realise this given what happened at the battle royale.
Is it possible Khan sees the $ in Punk/Omega and rushes to make him champ at All Out? Sure, it's possible, bookers do dumb things all the time. And this would be a very dumb thing. Punk is a draw for showing up and wrestling at all; hardly anyone will buy the PPV because he's in a title match that wouldn't have for him fighting Darby.
Meanwhile, a lot of fans will get very angry both at Punk (which might be okay, depending on plans) and the company (which will not be okay) for tossing aside an organically grown star for a guy that hasn't wrestled in nearly a decade. TNA comparisons will abound, especially if Punk is in any way rusty. Again, it's difficult to believe Khan doesn't realise this. Whatever scant money Punk as champion can make that is beyond just Punk being there at all (and it is scant) is not worth hurting Hangman and turning off a significant chunk of the fanbase who've been there all along.
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Post by eJm on Jul 30, 2021 7:37:45 GMT -5
I think we also need to ask if any Observer subscribers have the same quote in hand? Not saying it isn't true, just that people have misquoted the Observer before (it seems to happen to Alverez all the time on his shows).
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Post by markymark on Jul 30, 2021 7:40:29 GMT -5
Dave seems to be speculating tbh
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Post by eJm on Jul 30, 2021 7:41:12 GMT -5
Dave seems to be speculating tbh Figured as much. False alarm, everyone!
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Post by Blade on Jul 30, 2021 7:42:03 GMT -5
Omega vs Christian is not a PPV main event lmao. If they do this they're deluded People are saying this, but I disagree. Christian could absolutely be in the main event - he can talk and have great matches. Just not now. All he's done so far is have good matches with low carders and give Jungle Boy pep talks. Which is fine, but not exciting and it certainly doesn't wash off all the years of WWE undervaluing him. Give Christian's character a push, have him in some hotter feuds that people buy into, and he could slot right into the main event. But they haven't done that yet.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Jul 30, 2021 7:43:51 GMT -5
Dave seems to be speculating tbh That’s a good point. He’s just guessing now that I read the whole quote. I think some sites took that quote, put it in a headline like it was fact, and now people, including me, are freaking out. I hate clickbaiting so much. I guess we just have to watch Dynamite to find out. But I hate when Meltzer just guessing something and people make it out to be something is fact.
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Post by khali on Jul 30, 2021 7:45:04 GMT -5
Is it just me, or does the first part sound declarative and the rest speculation? He’s obviously guessing at the opponent, but clearly states that was the plan but it changed.
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Post by markymark on Jul 30, 2021 7:48:25 GMT -5
This was the last ranking before Hangman lost his shot, JB will probably be number 1 in the ranking and get to face Christian, Christian going for Kenny before facing JB makes no sense whatsoever
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Post by jimmycon on Jul 30, 2021 7:51:13 GMT -5
I think Dave is being worked. I wonder if AEW decided that everybody was a little bit too sure that Hangman was getting the title at All Out, so decided to keep us all guessing a bit, make us want it EVEN MORE. Generally the booking has been really good so I refuse to believe they would do something as dim as give somebody else the All Out title match.
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Post by moxfan1 on Jul 30, 2021 7:58:26 GMT -5
With Punk possibly wrestling Darby at All Out. Along with Moxley vs Takahashi. They might do Omega vs Christian for title. Maybe save Omega vs Page for Authur Ash on 22nd. Page can win title with Bryan Danielson setting up feud with Omega.
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Post by jimmycon on Jul 30, 2021 8:07:22 GMT -5
With Punk possibly wrestling Darby at All Out. Along with Moxley vs Takahashi. They might do Omega vs Christian for title. Maybe save Omega vs Page for Authur Ash on 22nd. Page can win title with Bryan Danielson setting up feud with Omega. I would be fine with that!
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Post by flowercity on Jul 30, 2021 8:30:59 GMT -5
Dave has the owner of the company on speed dial. Khan grew up on the Observer. I tried telling y’all. It’s not going to be the Hangman, AEW does not go back on their stipulations.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Jul 30, 2021 8:43:14 GMT -5
This feels weird for me to say, but maybe it won’t be so bad, considering there seemed to be a large divide in the fandom that All Out was too soon for Page to win and that Full Gear is the way to go. Maybe a large enough divide where it would still be a huge impact if Page wins at All Out that it wouldn’t really ruin anything. I personally don’t think it’s an enormous mistake to wait another measly two months for the payoff we want.
And I do trust AEW to keep up telling a great story. They are really great of inserting life into storylines that fans say is going on to long. The MJF and Jericho feud is a perfect example of that, because that feud has been going on for almost an entire year. And that feud has been going on week to week, and the Page story really hasn’t. And the 5 labors of Jericho has been very successful thus far and added the last remaining fire to a long storyline that will have real heat when it finally ends. So I trust AEW to make this all into a great story.
Still gonna feel disappointed if the match doesn’t happen at All Out though. It sucks because the hype of that show was built up by the fans because of the assumption that the match was happening there. All Out sold out extremely quickly because of the idea that Omega vs Page would be happening right now. So it is a bummer, if the undercard is fantastic, like Punk vs Darby, Mox vs Tanahashi, Jericho vs MJF, that stuff can carry a card and it could weather the storm. But it’s still a bummer.
I actually don’t know if any of that makes sense, I’m just trying to place my thoughts i this, because I am very torn.
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Post by Celgress on Jul 30, 2021 8:58:20 GMT -5
Omega vs Christian is not a PPV main event lmao. If they do this they're deluded I must agree. Christian booking-wise isn't in the same universe as Omega yet in AEW. Unless they change the direction at warp speed Christian v. Omega for the title would make zero sense.
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Post by flowercity on Jul 30, 2021 9:01:56 GMT -5
Omega vs Christian is not a PPV main event lmao. If they do this they're deluded I must agree. Christian booking-wise isn't in the same universe as Omega yet in AEW. Unless they change the direction at warp speed Christian v. Omega for the title would make zero sense. Admittedly, Christian being associated with major AEW PPV disappointments is a character arc I would not have expected.
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Post by Celgress on Jul 30, 2021 9:06:30 GMT -5
I must agree. Christian booking-wise isn't in the same universe as Omega yet in AEW. Unless they change the direction at warp speed Christian v. Omega for the title would make zero sense. Admittedly, Christian being associated with major AEW PPV disappointments is a character arc I would not have expected. Same here, he's been booked as an upper-midcarder recently yet now they might drop him in the PPV main event out of the blue? He'll no doubt lose also. I'm like WTH people!?!?! If it happens, I must admit, I'll be scratching my head as this helps absolutely no one involved not Omega, not Page, and certainly not Christian who becomes nothing more than a placeholder (likely for Punk).
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Post by flowercity on Jul 30, 2021 9:08:45 GMT -5
Admittedly, Christian being associated with major AEW PPV disappointments is a character arc I would not have expected. Same here, he's been booked as an upper-midcarder recently yet now they might drop him in the PPV main event out of the blue? He'll no doubt lose also. I'm like WTH people!?!?! If it happens, I must admit, I'll be scratching my head as this helps absolutely no one involved not Omega, not Page, and certainly not Christian who becomes nothing more than a placeholder (likely for Punk). I think there’s a good chance the crowd hijacks the match if we get it. It is quite baffling. I think the safe bet is to go with Punk, as I said in the OP. I don’t understand why everyone thinks he isn’t wrestling at First Dance. They’re trying to sell 15k+ tickets on the idea of an entrance and promo? No way.
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Post by Hypnosis on Jul 30, 2021 9:10:42 GMT -5
I'm disappointed that this is going in the direction of having to revolt against the current plan in order to get Hangman the title match at All Out like what happened with Daniel Bryan in 2014.
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Post by Celgress on Jul 30, 2021 9:11:41 GMT -5
Same here, he's been booked as an upper-midcarder recently yet now they might drop him in the PPV main event out of the blue? He'll no doubt lose also. I'm like WTH people!?!?! If it happens, I must admit, I'll be scratching my head as this helps absolutely no one involved not Omega, not Page, and certainly not Christian who becomes nothing more than a placeholder (likely for Punk). I think there’s a good chance the crowd hijacks the match if we get it. It is quite baffling. I think the safe bet is to go with Punk, as I said in the OP. I don’t understand why everyone thinks he isn’t wrestling at First Dance. They’re trying to sell 15k+ tickets on the idea of an entrance and promo? No way. I'm not sure what is going to happen after this past episode of Dynamite coupled with the Observer rumors. I must admit, I am legit worried (if only a little, yet) for the first time watching AEW. I hope TK & co. know what the hell they are doing. *crosses fingers & toes*
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