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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 14:34:35 GMT -5
Tony Khan has admitted he is a numbers guy and he wasn't kidding because that is basically how he talks and weaves narratives and basically uses it to say things like calling WWE fans dumber and less educated in comparison to AEW fans but he doesn't say it like that he uses numbers speak so no one can accuse him. He may try to pain this picture that he isn't anything like Vince but he has Vince like traits. I mean anyone who watches Football (both American and European) and even remotely follows the Jags and/or Fulham will tell you that Tony Khan has one of the most fragile egos and some of the thinnest skins out there. But this thread is about Meltzer and his reporting of the Alexa/Charlotte stuff. Now I hated the stuff last night, but it's apparently pretty popular, so what do I know? I just think Dave really needs to start double checking any reports he gets, because it's pretty apparent he does little to no actual fact checking before publishing it (and this is a best case scenario), or is outright publishing these stories in an attempt to mudsling in a worst case scenario. Meltzer has his sources in WWE AND AEW but seems those are drieing up on him as the real old guard finally goes out to pasture...like Jericho and Flair are two of his more notable ones people are aware of. But when he doesn't have someone deep on the inside oh does he look like a complete f***ing joke....because when he reported on LU news back then no one on the roster nore on the staff fed him anything(no one liked him)...all of his stuff came from 3rd and 4th hand sources...a friend of a friend of a friend and when he actually got anything right it was because he got it from luchablog (who he never credited) who got it from the only reliable source because it is where I had gotten all my bts info on that show(who luchablog himself has credited). So I would not doubt it is the samething happening to him now...unless it is AEW he likely isn't getting direct info but 2nd and 3rd hand and thus all his inaccurasies and bullshit speculation and not factual.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Sept 21, 2021 14:36:29 GMT -5
Dave definitely still has sources by the way. He was the first to report Gable Steveson signing with WWE.
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Post by Perd on Sept 21, 2021 14:36:46 GMT -5
I thought I noticed that the AEW Section had tempatuee controlled floors.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 21, 2021 14:37:37 GMT -5
Dave definitely still has sources by the way. He was the first to report Gable Steveson signing with WWE. And the Adan Cole Manager pitch that people wantrs to say it was made up and then other journalists confirmed. I also dont believe 1500 people left ,I always like to have more than 1 source ,but to say he has nothing woukd be ridiculous
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 14:48:22 GMT -5
Yeah, with how Alexa is reacting on Twitter, I’m going with “planted story to take away from the Plane Ride from Hell episode of Dark Side of the Ring where they don’t come off particularly great”. Yeah this is basically where I'm at too. WWE's getting walloped from multiple angles right now and what better to distract from that then a nice "look how dumb how Meltzer is!" story? And Lexi, much as I love her, is a loyal WWE trooper who'd have no problem going along with something like that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 14:57:13 GMT -5
Alexa Bliss is an instant channel changer for me.
I'd have walked away had I been in that arena, but I'd have come back for sure.
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Post by Venti on Sept 21, 2021 15:18:46 GMT -5
Lol I admire and respect Dave as a wrestling historian, but the things this dude says sometimes makes him kind of a clown in my eyes.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Sept 21, 2021 15:19:22 GMT -5
Bliss’ “Meltzer or whatever” line makes her look goofy. Dave reported something he was told that he should be smart enough to know isn’t true. Her pretending she doesn’t know exactly what she’s saying or doing with her response is also stupid.
Anyway,Twitter wrestling people are so weird. The subculture that just loves to hate Meltzer is weird. He’s a reporter. He’s easy to ignore. Even easier if WWE talent wouldn’t quote him all the time
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Post by mattyy on Sept 21, 2021 15:23:55 GMT -5
that 8,000 remark is kinda sticking with me. Like, should WWE be doing more than 8,000? Absolutely. But at the same time, I'd celebrate a number like that for AEW. We're still in a mid-pandemic world where, not surprisingly, people are still very hesitant to go into a large venue like this. Hell at All Out, I heard people behind me going "f***ing walking into a superspreader". Like, to me right now, 8,000 is very good. ESPECIALLY when you factor in how ice cold WWE has been.
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Post by Ryushinku on Sept 21, 2021 15:32:58 GMT -5
Some kind of Schrodinger's Crowd, only fully visible when the camera is on them.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 21, 2021 15:37:12 GMT -5
Nothing Dave says surprises me anymore. He lost all credibility in my eys years ago.
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Post by khali on Sept 21, 2021 15:54:09 GMT -5
At this point I’m convinced they had some sort of training where they were instructed to go after Meltzer whenever needed. Because it’s always him and only him.
Not even about this specific instance, but Meltzer is never as hard on WWE as Alvarez is. But you never see WWE talent clapping back at him when he makes several negative tweets during a WWE PPV or something.
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Post by PKO on Sept 21, 2021 15:56:11 GMT -5
It’s weird that 1,500 people left in droves and yet you didn’t see them moving on TV from the many, many camera angles that they use.
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Post by Mecca on Sept 21, 2021 16:11:14 GMT -5
At this point I’m convinced they had some sort of training where they were instructed to go after Meltzer whenever needed. Because it’s always him and only him. Not even about this specific instance, but Meltzer is never as hard on WWE as Alvarez is. But you never see WWE talent clapping back at him when he makes several negative tweets during a WWE PPV or something. He's the name that people notice, so that's the shot. They never mention Keller, Alvarez etc.. The only person I've ever heard go after Alvarez is Bischoff and Bischoff is so full of shit.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Sept 21, 2021 16:14:28 GMT -5
I'm picturing Meltzer by the exits with one of those clicker counter things in one hand and furiously writing into a notebook with the other hand it's hilarious. But how is he going to take a potato chip AND EAT IT?
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Post by Dub H on Sept 21, 2021 16:26:26 GMT -5
At this point I’m convinced they had some sort of training where they were instructed to go after Meltzer whenever needed. Because it’s always him and only him. Not even about this specific instance, but Meltzer is never as hard on WWE as Alvarez is. But you never see WWE talent clapping back at him when he makes several negative tweets during a WWE PPV or something. He is hte biggest wrestling journalist. There has been a lot of bad news about WWE,so when you discredit the biggest journalist,you discredit the bad news about then.At least thats how the world works today,sadly.
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Post by Mecca on Sept 21, 2021 16:47:12 GMT -5
At this point I’m convinced they had some sort of training where they were instructed to go after Meltzer whenever needed. Because it’s always him and only him. Not even about this specific instance, but Meltzer is never as hard on WWE as Alvarez is. But you never see WWE talent clapping back at him when he makes several negative tweets during a WWE PPV or something. He is hte biggest wrestling journalist. There has been a lot of bad news about WWE,so when you discredit the biggest journalist,you discredit the bad news about then.At least thats how the world works today,sadly. I picture Vince in front of the entire roster with a giant Meltzer picture behind him. Pointing and telling fake news, then making the roster do it.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Sept 21, 2021 17:17:46 GMT -5
Maybe they're giving out bonuses for each Tweet:
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Post by Mecca on Sept 21, 2021 17:23:26 GMT -5
Maybe they're giving out bonuses for each Tweet: Bruce Prichard is in her account isn't he?
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 21, 2021 17:31:11 GMT -5
Pathetic journalism. You can’t just report what one random person from the arena says happened as fact.
Meltzer has really gone downhill recently.
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