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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 28, 2021 17:21:32 GMT -5
I think AEW would be total idiots to not at least take a chance on Bray. Maybe it'll work out, maybe it won't, but someone that over who's that able to sell merch just being ignored entirely would just be dumb.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 17:33:26 GMT -5
The best place for him is back in WWE.
AEW is a "pure wrestling" company and I have no desire to see Husky Harris again.
Unless he's doing the Funhouse/Fiend gimmick, I have no interest in him.
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Post by Chiral on Oct 28, 2021 17:34:36 GMT -5
Let's pool our money together and hire him for FAN!!!!
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Oct 28, 2021 17:43:41 GMT -5
The best place for him is back in WWE. AEW is a "pure wrestling" company and I have no desire to see Husky Harris again. Unless he's doing the Funhouse/Fiend gimmick, I have no interest in him. I'm not sure which part of this is more perplexing: the idea that Bray is a bad worker who wouldn't put on good matches with other good workers, or the idea that AEW is some kind of mega-serious pure wrestling place where no one has a kooky gimmick.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 18:14:21 GMT -5
The best place for him is back in WWE. AEW is a "pure wrestling" company and I have no desire to see Husky Harris again. Unless he's doing the Funhouse/Fiend gimmick, I have no interest in him. I'm not sure which part of this is more perplexing: the idea that Bray is a bad worker who wouldn't put on good matches with other good workers, or the idea that AEW is some kind of mega-serious pure wrestling place where no one has a kooky gimmick. Bray relies on the supernatural stuff. We know that AEW doesn't like that as Tony Khan scrapped the Broken Matt stuff.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 28, 2021 18:14:59 GMT -5
I'm not sure which part of this is more perplexing: the idea that Bray is a bad worker who wouldn't put on good matches with other good workers, or the idea that AEW is some kind of mega-serious pure wrestling place where no one has a kooky gimmick. Bray relies on the supernatural stuff. We know that AEW doesn't like that as Tony Khan scrapped the Broken Matt stuff. He really doesn't rely on it though? Guy was crazy over even back when his whole thing was just being a backwoods cult leader living in the swamp, well before he had actual powers. Also if anything Tony Khan should open his mind up to it a bit given how f***ing boring Matt is without it.
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Post by James Fabiano on Oct 28, 2021 18:19:14 GMT -5
Bray relies on the supernatural stuff. We know that AEW doesn't like that as Tony Khan scrapped the Broken Matt stuff. He really doesn't rely on it though? Guy was crazy over even back when his whole thing was just being a backwoods cult leader living in the swamp, well before he had actual powers. Also if anything Tony Khan should open his mind up to it a bit given how f***ing boring Matt is without it. And fortunately, i guess, the cult leader is the only one he can really use without having to fear McDevitt, et al. Not exactly like the NXT/WWE version of course, but a variant on that is easier to get by them than a FFH knockoff. (which is unfortunate as that's when I was really into him)
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Post by jason1980s on Oct 28, 2021 18:25:42 GMT -5
I can't see how he can possibly go anywhere else but AEW. His best friend spent the last few weeks of his life with AEW and AEW has spent almost a whole year doing everything they could for the man's family because they legit care about the people that work for them. Why anyone would want to go anywhere else, if they have a choice, is beyond me.
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Post by James Fabiano on Oct 28, 2021 18:34:54 GMT -5
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Oct 28, 2021 18:49:39 GMT -5
Bray relies on the supernatural stuff. We know that AEW doesn't like that as Tony Khan scrapped the Broken Matt stuff. He really doesn't rely on it though? Guy was crazy over even back when his whole thing was just being a backwoods cult leader living in the swamp, well before he had actual powers. Also if anything Tony Khan should open his mind up to it a bit given how f***ing boring Matt is without it. The original Bray Wyatt character always seemed to be one meant to straddle the line of questioning if something supernatural was going on more than it was about having him actually be supernatural; speaking in vague mentions of being a 'vessel' but never letting that really become more than it needed to be. It seemed like a Vince move to start cramming all that extra junk into the character. The Fiend was absolutely a Bray brainchild--Braynchild--and the paranormal stuff seemed like way more his jam there, but that was only long after the whole thing jumped the shark.
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Post by Malibu Albino on Oct 28, 2021 19:34:38 GMT -5
The best place for him is back in WWE. AEW is a "pure wrestling" company and I have no desire to see Husky Harris again. Unless he's doing the Funhouse/Fiend gimmick, I have no interest in him. I don't think the company that just advanced their world title feud by having the challenger in a Stay Puft Marshmallow costume is what I'd call "pure wrestling," there is more than enough space for Bray and his gimmick ideas. Look at Malaki Black if you want another example of how someone is able to use their creativity in a way that works in the AEW product.
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Post by Fade on Oct 28, 2021 20:13:34 GMT -5
The best place for him is back in WWE. AEW is a "pure wrestling" company and I have no desire to see Husky Harris again. Unless he's doing the Funhouse/Fiend gimmick, I have no interest in him. I don't think the company that just advanced their world title feud by having the challenger in a Stay Puft Marshmallow costume is what I'd call "pure wrestling," there is more than enough space for Bray and his gimmick ideas. Look at Malaki Black if you want another example of how someone is able to use their creativity in a way that works in the AEW product. I think a lot of what has me hyped is the lack of extreme supernatural context in AEW and how Windham is going to navigate that. I’ve got all the faith in the world in him developing a character that “fits” ala Black.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 28, 2021 20:20:12 GMT -5
He really doesn't rely on it though? Guy was crazy over even back when his whole thing was just being a backwoods cult leader living in the swamp, well before he had actual powers. Also if anything Tony Khan should open his mind up to it a bit given how f***ing boring Matt is without it. The original Bray Wyatt character always seemed to be one meant to straddle the line of questioning if something supernatural was going on more than it was about having him actually be supernatural; speaking in vague mentions of being a 'vessel' but never letting that really become more than it needed to be. It seemed like a Vince move to start cramming all that extra junk into the character. The Fiend was absolutely a Bray brainchild--Braynchild--and the paranormal stuff seemed like way more his jam there, but that was only long after the whole thing jumped the shark. I thought he was more compelling as the Backwoods Swamp Preacher, but yeah, eventually they just reduced him to the guy that kept saying "THEY LYIN' TO YOU, MAAAAAAAAAN!", and unintentionally made it, and him, into a joke (though, if you wanted to argue that the "Projecting Bugs on the Ring Canvas" thing was intended to make him a joke, I wouldn't argue against it). I also think that Bray, especially in his Cult Preacher incarnation, would be amazing in the Extended Universe (BTE, Sammy, maybe even Uno) blogs.
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Post by Chiral on Oct 29, 2021 0:36:54 GMT -5
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 29, 2021 4:16:47 GMT -5
Personally I'd like to see sort of a marriage of Bray's gimmicks; sort of a softspoken, friendly, cheerful cult leader who snaps to being completely sadistic if you piss him off.
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Post by Sephiroth on Oct 29, 2021 6:50:40 GMT -5
Impact is probably the best bet for him right now. It may not be the kind of platform AEW is, but with all the big signings of the last few months AEW is just too top heavy and has so many big things already ongoing that he’d get stuck in the midcard and fast. In Impact he’d be a top dog immediately, and they seem to favor theatrical style matched and dark, monster gimmicks such as he obviously thrives on. As much as anything else, a period of two or three years in Impact with Japan and indies on the side would be a way to keep himself as a known entity to fans while waiting for either WWE to have him back, or AEW to be in a better spot for his star to shine.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Oct 29, 2021 7:01:39 GMT -5
The original Bray Wyatt character always seemed to be one meant to straddle the line of questioning if something supernatural was going on more than it was about having him actually be supernatural; speaking in vague mentions of being a 'vessel' but never letting that really become more than it needed to be. It seemed like a Vince move to start cramming all that extra junk into the character. The Fiend was absolutely a Bray brainchild--Braynchild--and the paranormal stuff seemed like way more his jam there, but that was only long after the whole thing jumped the shark. I thought he was more compelling as the Backwoods Swamp Preacher, but yeah, eventually they just reduced him to the guy that kept saying "THEY LYIN' TO YOU, MAAAAAAAAAN!", and unintentionally made it, and him, into a joke (though, if you wanted to argue that the "Projecting Bugs on the Ring Canvas" thing was intended to make him a joke, I wouldn't argue against it). I also think that Bray, especially in his Cult Preacher incarnation, would be amazing in the Extended Universe (BTE, Sammy, maybe even Uno) blogs. It absolutely perplexes me that they couldn't book Swap Cult leader Bray correctly. I mean, they didn't even get the easiest part right, which would be HIM ACTUALLY CONVERTING SOMEONE SUCCESSFULLY.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Oct 29, 2021 7:23:38 GMT -5
Bray relies on the supernatural stuff. We know that AEW doesn't like that as Tony Khan scrapped the Broken Matt stuff. He really doesn't rely on it though? Guy was crazy over even back when his whole thing was just being a backwoods cult leader living in the swamp, well before he had actual powers. Also if anything Tony Khan should open his mind up to it a bit given how f***ing boring Matt is without it. To me this is Tony's achilles heel. It seems every promoter has one. Vince's is "vanilla midgets" not realizing that height and size don't equate to being over, and connecting with your audience. There's room at the wrestling table for all types of characters, including spooky supernatural stuff. Was the Broken Matt teleporting dumb? Yes. But that doesn't mean an otherworldly character can't work. If Bray isn't given a chance because Tony doesn't understand his appeal and potential (when imo Bray was at his best WITHOUT the supernatural angles) then that's the closest I've seen him come to Vince McMahon since AEW formed.
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 29, 2021 7:30:28 GMT -5
I'll be honest: I've grown to like the whole lack of Bray's random confusing feuds that go nowhere.
But since I'm being honest, I miss some of the random bullshittery he was involved with. Like the in-drag promo against the Great Pumpkin Demon. Or Randy burning his shack down. Or Randy lighting him on fire.
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Post by crashmatsbazz on Oct 29, 2021 7:33:48 GMT -5
id love to see him to do something else, drop the spooky stuff/the cult stuff and try something new.
like, cut your dreads wear pink and be a race car driver or kung fu Windham.
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