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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 13, 2021 19:20:44 GMT -5
said it a bunch of times.
Paul Heyman and/or the Death of ECW
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Post by sungod2020 on Oct 13, 2021 19:47:46 GMT -5
They should do one on The Renegade. A guy who was given an Ultimate Warrior rip-off gimmick and pushed immediately to the moon despite being very green and not ready for such a spot, only to be pushed to the side, humiliated on TV, and reduced to jobber status before giving his release and then killed himself two months later. The term burial gets thrown around alot on these boards, but given how he was treated, I can't see how one would argue about this NOT being one.
Also, Adrian Adonis deserves an episode dedicated to him.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 13, 2021 19:51:44 GMT -5
Depending on how they wing it, Hogan? He is the most known wrestler of all-time and he's definitely got the baggage. We all know about it. So Hogan's got more than enough Dark Side to his career to warrent an episode.
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Post by crashmatsbazz on Oct 14, 2021 3:47:52 GMT -5
Don't know how much interest it would generate, but the UK wrestling scene when it was one of the most watched shows in the UK and controlled by Big Daddy's family you could very easily tie in Jimmy Saville, the Krays and various other British Gangsters as well
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Post by Lardlad on Oct 14, 2021 5:43:28 GMT -5
I would like to see episodes on:
Rise and Fall of Sunny Tammy Sytch Dr Zahorian Teddy Hart Mike Awesome Test Curt Hennig Mel Philips, Terry Garvin, ring boys scandal Jeff Hardy on his own AND/OR an episode on the Victory Road PPV Alberto Del Rio
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Post by lildude8218 on Oct 14, 2021 13:51:44 GMT -5
how about Victor Quinones?
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Post by jason1980s on Oct 14, 2021 15:45:07 GMT -5
They should do one on The Renegade. A guy who was given an Ultimate Warrior rip-off gimmick and pushed immediately to the moon despite being very green and not ready for such a spot, only to be pushed to the side, humiliated on TV, and reduced to jobber status before giving his release and then killed himself two months later. The term burial gets thrown around alot on these boards, but given how he was treated, I can't see how one would argue about this NOT being one. Also, Adrian Adonis deserves an episode dedicated to him. Renegade seems like an obvious choice but I wonder who they could get to speak. Hogan and Bischoff seem like they have no conscience or idea of right or wrong. I'd imagine Jimmy Hart felt bad about the "shoot" he did on Nitro but he will always be a company man and always speak highly to whoever was paying him. Not a knock of Jimmy, he's a great guy IMO but probably won't be able to contribute. Kevin Sullivan is an honest guy but a bit too soft spoken and kindly, he will tell the truth but might make for a boring episode. Joe Gomez was Rick's partner for a bit but has anyone heard from him in over 20 years? I wonder if Rick confided anything to Joe. Ric Flair's book had a pretty great write up about Renegade but they can't use Ric, I'm sure. Renegade lasted a pretty good time, for the time period but in the grand scheme of wrestling it was a literal "cup of coffee." I would personally love for Hogan and Bischoff to be brought to task for them wanting Warrior, failing to get Warrior, getting Rick Wilson and the sad events that happened from day 1. But I have no idea how they could make an episode with the main guys being career liars and the ones who might talk not being able to say much.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 14, 2021 16:45:15 GMT -5
Only people I could think of that would talk would be some of the other guys that were around in WCW at the time.
I don't know if any of the higher ups would be willing to talk... and Bischoff at least at one point has tried to claim that Renegade wasn't meant to be a Warrior Rip Off or that they were trying to imply Warrior was coming to WCW... which is just amazing bullshit...
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Oct 14, 2021 16:58:32 GMT -5
With Marty Jannetty, I’d like to see one that focuses on the Charles Austin incident. I’d be interested to see them get into the weeds on the lawsuit and how the jury made their decision.
This could actually play well into this episode since companies are liable for the acts of employees but not independent contractors. I’d like to know if the IC argument was brought up in the lawsuit.
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Post by hassanchop on Oct 15, 2021 2:18:02 GMT -5
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Oct 15, 2021 7:44:36 GMT -5
It could be a really good episode depending what they covered. Unfortunately a Matt Cappotelli interview is no longer possible, but Hardcore Holly beating him up would have to be covered Puder and Maven would be good to talk to. Plus, even more obscure people like Darrell from season 1. Darrell was shown to be really lazy and uncoordinated but was relentlessly bullied by Tazz. Darrell even cried and walked off set when Tazz dressed him down on the season 1 recap show. It would be cool if they could dig up Jake Sokoloff from season 2. For those who don’t know Kenny King and him were the joint winner’s up that season. Jake was an online favorite to win and King has of course had longterm success. The winners were Linda Miles and Jackie Gayda. Miles had a cup of coffee as a dominatrix in WWE while Gayda had one of the worst matches ever. IIRC Jake even said on camera that he thought there was supposed to be one male winner and one female winner.
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Post by wildojinx on Oct 30, 2021 9:41:03 GMT -5
Would an episode on the whole Parents Television Council vs WWF feud work? Especially since the WWF ended up suing them. Only problem is there's not many people to interview, the PTC likely cant discuss it due to legal reasons, and you're not going to get Vince on the show, the only person they could get to discuss it is Jerry McDevitt again (maybe Mick Foley as well).
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Post by James Fabiano on Oct 30, 2021 9:56:00 GMT -5
said it a bunch of times. Paul Heyman and/or the Death of ECW Similarly, there's already a bunch out on that. What would be left?
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Post by wildojinx on Nov 5, 2021 0:53:34 GMT -5
They could do an investigation on if Sgt. Slaughter actually was in the military and if he's guilty of stolen valor.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 5, 2021 4:25:03 GMT -5
They could do an investigation on if Sgt. Slaughter actually was in the military and if he's guilty of stolen valor. He didn't serve, though it kind of runs into a grey area in that Slaughter, as a character, is a Vietnam veteran, but I don't know if Robert Remus has tried to present himself as one. Of course, wrestlers often play fast and loose with kayfabe, so... It would be pretty interesting on that front, his side of things, along with probably a debate about the line and what crosses it. If he didn't want to participate, though, there really wouldn't be enough to make an episode with.
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Post by jason1980s on Nov 5, 2021 9:11:46 GMT -5
I was just thinking about Slaughter the other day. Even though I don't like the stolen valor part of his career, it amazes me his dedication to wrestling that he was willing to go through with such a heated gimmick, the pro Iraqi gimmick, in 1990/1991. I'm honestly surprised he ever recovered so quickly from that to the American hero again. It was a gimmick that could have sunk a career and had a long lasting negative effect, I think.
As for the controversy. I feel like it was starting to just pick up steam in early 2020 but then something way bigger happened, covid-19 and it was all forgotten about. It was originally brought to light in 1985 but I'm guessing it wasn't enough for some of the journalists or media members that hate wrestling to write about or discuss afterwards. It was obviously not as bad as the Snuka scandal but still, something that could sink a man's career if it gained enough traction. And with wrestling blurring the lines of reality for fiction so often, and so many wanting the fans and others to believe it's all real it really should be a major scandal. I also am certain Robert Remus is just fine pretending and wants the fans and non fans to believe he served.
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Post by madness50 on Nov 5, 2021 10:08:14 GMT -5
What was that doctor’s name that the Fugitive was based off of and eventually got involved in wrestling? That could be a good topic to do an episode on.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Nov 5, 2021 10:13:29 GMT -5
I’d rather them just end the show instead of fishing for topics to find the “dark side” about (not that there isn’t a few topics still left on the table, of course).
Like, it would be time to call it a day if the episodes are like “Garbage Business: The Dark Side of Duke Droese.”
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Post by wildojinx on Nov 5, 2021 18:56:47 GMT -5
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Post by hassanchop on Nov 5, 2021 20:36:08 GMT -5
Tommy Dreamer. Both his Wrestlemania X7 ideas and his present controversy. Maybe in this one he can properly apologize.
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