Demented
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Post by Demented on Nov 24, 2021 22:18:33 GMT -5
Thanks for coming, MJF. You tried.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 24, 2021 22:19:43 GMT -5
It was pretty damn great but it did feel like it exposed MJF a bit comparatively because while he had some decent lines Punk f***ing destroyed him by the end of it.
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Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 24, 2021 22:20:28 GMT -5
One of the best segments AEW's ever pulled imo. Absolute masterclass that exceeded by expectations between the two of them
And I LOVED that Punk did not put QT away immediately. MJF said he's struggled against competition he'd be running through in his old days. It helps prove some of the things MJF said in his promo right and causes a seed to plant and grow into some doubt.
This could be an incredible feud. It's already started off on a fantastic note.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 24, 2021 22:21:24 GMT -5
It was pretty damn great but it did feel like it exposed MJF a bit comparatively because while he had some decent lines Punk f***ing destroyed him by the end of it. I think MJF will be fine since he's MJF... but I think MJF got a bit of a last laugh in because Punks struggled against QT. Helped MJF win in another way proving something he said to be correct imo
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Nov 24, 2021 22:27:27 GMT -5
It was pretty damn great but it did feel like it exposed MJF a bit comparatively because while he had some decent lines Punk f***ing destroyed him by the end of it. Yep. But hopefully MJF being in these situations will get him better, but MJF felt like he was a tad cartoonish while Punk just killed him and felt more real/natural.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 24, 2021 22:31:56 GMT -5
It was pretty damn great but it did feel like it exposed MJF a bit comparatively because while he had some decent lines Punk f***ing destroyed him by the end of it. Yep. But hopefully MJF being in these situations will get him better, but MJF felt like he was a tad cartoonish while Punk just killed him and felt more real/natural. I feel like it's a setup to MJF needing to take it more seriously. He had great lines and good digs himself... but he knows he's not the top dog on the stick in this one. As it goes on I am very curious to see how he adapts.
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Chiral
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Post by Chiral on Nov 24, 2021 22:35:04 GMT -5
I said this in the live thread too but this is gonna be a proving feud for MJF. He just hit that point like in an RPG where he's facing off against someone with a higher level promo skill when before he was having promo battles like the auto win when overleveled thing in Earthbound. Is he just gonna keep bringing schoolyard jabs, peppered in with some deeper cuts, but then back to the "oh my god your breath smells" tier? Punk's gonna push him to be better, because there was a lot of feeling behind "I'm so disappointed in you" from the guy who's been praising all the heels and their strategies whenever he does guest commentary.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Nov 24, 2021 22:36:51 GMT -5
I said this in the live thread too but this is gonna be a proving feud for MJF. He just hit that point like in an RPG where he's facing off against someone with a higher level promo skill when before he was having promo battles like the auto win when overleveled thing in Earthbound. Is he just gonna keep bringing schoolyard jabs, peppered in with some deeper cuts, but then back to the "oh my god your breath smells" tier? Punk's gonna push him to be better, because there was a lot of feeling behind "I'm so disappointed in you" from the guy who's been praising all the heels and their strategies whenever he does guest commentary. It’s definitely his biggest test to date. It’s not do or die, but he needs to deliver if they’ve got plans for him to be one of the next champs.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 24, 2021 22:37:49 GMT -5
I said this in the live thread too but this is gonna be a proving feud for MJF. He just hit that point like in an RPG where he's facing off against someone with a higher level promo skill when before he was having promo battles like the auto win when overleveled thing in Earthbound. Is he just gonna keep bringing schoolyard jabs, peppered in with some deeper cuts, but then back to the "oh my god your breath smells" tier? Punk's gonna push him to be better, because there was a lot of feeling behind "I'm so disappointed in you" from the guy who's been praising all the heels and their strategies whenever he does guest commentary. MJF just realized that CM Punk is his Matador.
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Nov 24, 2021 22:46:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2021 22:52:29 GMT -5
He needed that. If he can level up from this feud then it'll be a W but if he can't then hey, take that Less Famous Miz self and shine it up as best you can MJF. For months now I've been saying that while I like dude, his stuff's just felt sorta shallow to me. The weak easy shots, the basic stuff, just stuff like that. Punk tonight just broke all his basic stuff down and proved he's who he says he is and also proved that MJF gotta level up.
Punk saying that to him is sorta like when Cena laid into Reigns years ago. Sometimes you gotta lay it on thick to pull someone's best work out of them and honestly MJF needed that.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Nov 24, 2021 22:58:05 GMT -5
I do feel like Punk won. But I do believe MJF more than held his own.
Don’t forget, he’s still very young. Imagine what his promo skills could be when he gets older and his character develops even further and has had even more experience in the main event.
But either way, that was an all time promo battle.
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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 24, 2021 22:59:52 GMT -5
That was fun, and I'm interested to see how MJF's character evolves by the end of the feud.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Nov 24, 2021 22:59:58 GMT -5
I f***ing loved it. It works on so many levels.
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Post by Chiral on Nov 24, 2021 23:04:08 GMT -5
I said this in the live thread too but this is gonna be a proving feud for MJF. He just hit that point like in an RPG where he's facing off against someone with a higher level promo skill when before he was having promo battles like the auto win when overleveled thing in Earthbound. Is he just gonna keep bringing schoolyard jabs, peppered in with some deeper cuts, but then back to the "oh my god your breath smells" tier? Punk's gonna push him to be better, because there was a lot of feeling behind "I'm so disappointed in you" from the guy who's been praising all the heels and their strategies whenever he does guest commentary. MJF just realized that CM Punk is his Matador.
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Nov 24, 2021 23:05:10 GMT -5
Punk was like Negan. He just sat and let MJF say what he needs to say and then he just comes out and kills MJF on the mic. Punk was like: "I don't want to have to kill you but if you come at me I will." when he got up and went to go pick up the mic
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Post by pippen94 on Nov 24, 2021 23:10:41 GMT -5
This was fantastic
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Post by pippen94 on Nov 24, 2021 23:11:47 GMT -5
I do feel like Punk won. But I do believe MJF more than held his own. Don’t forget, he’s still very young. Imagine what his promo skills could be when he gets older and his character develops even further and has had even more experience in the main event. But either way, that was an all time promo battle. You know the heel shouldn't be getting better of the face?!
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Nov 24, 2021 23:12:45 GMT -5
Punk was like Negan. He just sat and let MJF say what he needs to say and then he just comes out and kills MJF on the mic. Punk was like: "I don't want to have to kill you but if you come at me I will." when he got up and went to go pick up the mic And Punk f***ing killed him too with that initial set of barbs but I appreciated how MJF got into deeper water as it went on with his material. As others have alluded, this will be a major growing phase for MJF.
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Post by Perd on Nov 24, 2021 23:26:46 GMT -5
I think MJF did fine. Look, Punk is one of the best on the mic, ever. If you go promo-to-promo with him, you’re probably bound to come up short. But I think MJF got some good shots. Particularly the one about Punk coming back for the young guys and a boatload of money . However, there’s one aspect where Punk just totally outclasses MJF. And that’s the authenticity he brings to a promo. MJF just has this air of “puffin’ on a snow”. When you rely so heavily on insider references, even as a heel, it helps to seem a little more genuine. But, in fairness, there’s few who can match Punk in that regard.
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