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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 13:22:57 GMT -5
Probably the worst career move he is ever gonna make. Yeah he probably get paid but his stock is going to be significantly lower by the time they're done with him.He's about to be 38 and by the time this deal is over he'll be 40 about to be 41. He ain't gonna be wrestling full time when this deal's over no matter where he goes. Hell, he'll probably work as a backstage producer once this is done with. He knows his limits. He ain't 25.
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Post by Derk! on Dec 15, 2021 13:23:17 GMT -5
Would have loved to see him in a fresh environment. But much respect to the guy for getting that money...
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Post by eJm on Dec 15, 2021 13:24:49 GMT -5
Exactly. It’s great they’re trying to fix developmental but I hope this is a start of a wake up to them that people like Bron aren’t going to be main roster ready tomorrow. They need people to guide them from top to bottom and in turn, they still need notable names that they can build from to make potential feuds with said talent mean something. They’ve already let a lot of people slip through, if Owens went, I’d wonder what their logic actually is. Not to defend how WWE has handled the releases but I do think the idea of not hiring just to hire is a good change. Now there are people released I do feel bad for and there are people that have been released I'm stunned WWE had no idea how to use, but there is some sense in the moves that have been made and not just the theory of getting ready to sell. Andrew Zarian mentioned this last week bur he said he doesn't think people realize how smart Nick Khan is or what his background is so it's not all about making things look good for investors. Oh, I can get that and understand, it’s more just trying to transition to this new system without realizing you need those hands to guide the talent is what I’d be questioning. Unless they were going to make people like Gulak and Tozawa credible again and I can’t see that happening.
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Post by asuka007 on Dec 15, 2021 13:25:07 GMT -5
He also seems to have a fairly flexible schedule where he gets to go to fun places with his family and stuff like that.
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Post by eJm on Dec 15, 2021 13:26:25 GMT -5
Probably the worst career move he is ever gonna make. Yeah he probably get paid but his stock is going to be significantly lower by the time they're done with him.He's about to be 38 and by the time this deal is over he'll be 40 about to be 41. He ain't gonna be wrestling full time when this deal's over no matter where he goes. Hell, he'll probably work as a backstage producer once this is done with. He knows his limits. He ain't 25. And honestly, the worst thing WWE could do is let another guy like that go and take that position in AEW, Impact or even if ROH comes back, Owens being a pillar to start when he’s there now to get for as long as possible.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 15, 2021 13:27:57 GMT -5
As I said in the leadup to this. Kevin appears to very much be a less hostile version of his original NXT gimmick of I'm here to make money for my family. If the WWE backed a money truck up to his house I fully expected him to take it. Not to defend how WWE has handled the releases but I do think the idea of not hiring just to hire is a good change. Now there are people released I do feel bad for and there are people that have been released I'm stunned WWE had no idea how to use, but there is some sense in the moves that have been made and not just the theory of getting ready to sell. Andrew Zarian mentioned this last week bur he said he doesn't think people realize how smart Nick Khan is or what his background is so it's not all about making things look good for investors. Oh, I can get that and understand, it’s more just trying to transition to this new system without realizing you need those hands to guide the talent is what I’d be questioning. Unless they were going to make people like Gulak and Tozawa credible again and I can’t see that happening. I think Gulak is one of the trainers now too. Which makes sense since that was what he was doing in CHIKARA too. I think one other thing to consider is that the AEW style is very physical and he may not want to or feel like he could keep up given the miles he's put on his body. It's why I don't expect guys like AJ Styles or Seth Rollins to go there either, for instance. That, and dude secured the bag. Orange Cassidy's kicks have shattered countless leg bones, man is reckless! Seth no, I can't say for Styles, I never thought I'd see him in the E. Styles has stated multiple times that when his WWE contract is up he's retiring. I mean things change and retiring in Wrestling almost never sticks unless it's done forcibly (and even then...) but he seemed pretty set on it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 15, 2021 13:28:23 GMT -5
I am shocked he is staying since he is a guy who could use a change of scenery
BUT he’s been pretty loyal to them and he seems content on making the money
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 15, 2021 13:29:28 GMT -5
Oh also and the best news from this ... MORE KO-MANIA SHIRTS! I love them <_< I mean... he couldn't do that in AEW... I guess he could do like All Kev-in... but that doesn't flow nearly as well >_> (Also All In isn't technically AEW but shutup >_>)
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Dec 15, 2021 13:33:02 GMT -5
I hope he took them for every penny he could and got some guarantees that he's going to see that money. He's not gonna get creative fulfilment there, he might win matches and might totally get punked out every week for the next three years. A pitch for their plans for him? Vince is gonna change his mind in three hours and wanna stick him into a squirrel mascot costume telling recycled Red Skelton material. Contractually mandated title runs? Might as well ask for a bowl of peanuts because that's not worth shit. I hope his only questions were "How much are you going to pay me?" and "What are you going to do to guarantee I get what you say you're going to pay me?"
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Post by eJm on Dec 15, 2021 13:34:26 GMT -5
Oh also and the best news from this ... MORE KO-MANIA SHIRTS! I love them <_< I mean... he couldn't do that in AEW... I guess he could do like All Kev-in... but that doesn't flow nearly as well >_> (Also All In isn't technically AEW but shutup >_>) I mean, Winter is Kevin, surely. I’m so sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 13:35:48 GMT -5
Yea I would be shocked if he cared about anything other than the financial aspect as he seems very much in this stage of his life about financially securing his family and nothing else.
I would think KO a smart man that knows the landscape and got himself paid more than enough and guaranteed that no matter what happens he gets that money.
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Post by CeilingFan on Dec 15, 2021 13:41:29 GMT -5
He will be released in 6 months.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Dec 15, 2021 13:47:26 GMT -5
Let’s be honest, he very well have more room to climb up than AEW.
Hell, AEW is getting crowded enough that there’s one or two people there NOW that might actually be better off elsewhere
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Post by Mecca on Dec 15, 2021 13:53:37 GMT -5
Owens staying is a money move and I don't fault him for it. He's always been about providing for his family so it makes sense he'd be one to stay.
He's not some of the other guys where creative freedom matters or just not wanting to be there. Owens literally doesn't care as long as he's making bank to take care of his family.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 15, 2021 13:54:00 GMT -5
He will be released in 6 months. No, he won’t. To suggest it is laughable, even with the releases that have gone on.
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Post by The Creepo Man on Dec 15, 2021 13:55:46 GMT -5
Hopefully he got a no-cut clause. Prepare for a three hour rage fest on Hannibal TV if that’s the case.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Dec 15, 2021 13:56:43 GMT -5
Hopefully he got a no-cut clause. Hell no, if I’m him I wouldn’t want a no-cut contract. With his name value, he can walk into a well paying job anywhere if he gets shitcanned. No-cut contract they ice him if they get bored with him which is way more damaging to his value. The guys who need no-cut contracts are the guys who aren’t guaranteed to find another high paying job. Like, if I’m Humberto Carrillo I want a no cut contract. If I’m Seth or KO or Reigns or Becky etc I don’t want a no cut because my options are endless if they cut me. Now, a big signing bonus or a buyout clause I’d probably push for, but if I’m a big name there’s no way I want a no cut.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 15, 2021 14:03:08 GMT -5
Hopefully he got a no-cut clause. Hell no, if I’m him I wouldn’t want a no-cut contract. With his name value, he can walk into a well paying job anywhere if he gets shitcanned. No-cut contract they ice him if they get bored with him which is way more damaging to his value. The guys who need no-cut contracts are the guys who aren’t guaranteed to find another high paying job. Like, if I’m Humberto Carrillo I want a no cut contract. If I’m Seth or KO or Reigns or Becky etc I don’t want a no cut because my options are endless if they cut me. Now, a big signing bonus or a buyout clause I’d probably push for, but if I’m a big name there’s no way I want a no cut. A no-cut clause only matters if he wants to stay and they want him gone. If he wants to leave and they don't want him, they can just mutually agree to part ways. Plus it gives you leverage since you can always waive it but for a price. There's a reason top guys like Roman and Edge have it.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 15, 2021 14:04:09 GMT -5
It's funny how many people are big mad that he's staying because they can't dunk on WWE for letting him go. Not so much here, but there's a TON of it on Twitter
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 14:07:56 GMT -5
He's about to be 38 and by the time this deal is over he'll be 40 about to be 41. He ain't gonna be wrestling full time when this deal's over no matter where he goes. Hell, he'll probably work as a backstage producer once this is done with. He knows his limits. He ain't 25. And honestly, the worst thing WWE could do is let another guy like that go and take that position in AEW, Impact or even if ROH comes back, Owens being a pillar to start when he’s there now to get for as long as possible. Yeah. I feel now Owens will have more room to be who he wants to be compared to 5 years ago. Back then the Shield were in their prime, Cena was still doing his thing on the roster, the Authority was around, you had the Wyatts, you Del Rio for some reason oh you had the League of Nations, don't forget Orton was younger. You just had a lot of people who they'd look into more than Owens. Now though? I mean, they know who he is and what he can bring to the table so now is an easier time for him to move around.
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