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Post by Celgress on Jan 2, 2022 0:02:39 GMT -5
Ty and Sammy confirming the relationship rumors make me wonder more than ever if the Sammy "punished for the bad PR by losing the TNT Title" rumor is also true. I dunno about that Darby had worse stuff out there and he was doing just fine. I think Sammy was always meant to be a holdover champ for Cody Maybe, the main reason I suspect there may be more to it than a simple title change is that Sammy proposed to his GF on air not a good look for the company in light of what happened. Also, this is the second time Sammy made a misstep involving women remember the Sasha podcast debacle?
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Post by lucas_lee on Jan 2, 2022 0:04:57 GMT -5
I dunno about that Darby had worse stuff out there and he was doing just fine. I think Sammy was always meant to be a holdover champ for Cody Maybe, the main reason I suspect there may be more to it than a simple title change is that Sammy proposed to his GF on air not a good look for the company in light of what happened. Also, this is the second time Sammy made a misstep involving women remember the Sasha podcast debacle? I think possible cheating on your wife with stuff that he was actually recorded as saying is different. One is speculation the other is fact.
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Post by Celgress on Jan 2, 2022 0:07:27 GMT -5
Maybe, the main reason I suspect there may be more to it than a simple title change is that Sammy proposed to his GF on air not a good look for the company in light of what happened. Also, this is the second time Sammy made a misstep involving women remember the Sasha podcast debacle? I think possible cheating on your wife with stuff that he was actually recorded as saying is different. One is speculation the other is fact. I'm not saying this is the reason he lost the TNT Title as a fact I'm simply saying it would make sense all things considered. I'd be far from shocked if it comes out at some point that TK punished Sammy for his indiscretion because of Sammy's history.
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Post by mattyy on Jan 2, 2022 0:08:37 GMT -5
Ty and Sammy confirming the relationship rumors make me wonder more than ever if the Sammy "punished for the bad PR by losing the TNT Title" rumor is also true. I dunno about that Darby had worse stuff out there and he was doing just fine. I think Sammy was always meant to be a holdover champ for Cody yeah Miro had to drop the belt to do the movie he was filming and Sammy just so happened to be a good story for a Cody threepeat.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 2, 2022 1:12:01 GMT -5
I think possible cheating on your wife with stuff that he was actually recorded as saying is different. One is speculation the other is fact. I'm not saying this is the reason he lost the TNT Title as a fact I'm simply saying it would make sense all things considered. I'd be far from shocked if it comes out at some point that TK punished Sammy for his indiscretion because of Sammy's history. What indiscretion though? They broke up in October. We have literally no idea the reason they broke up or when he and Tay started dating.
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Post by Celgress on Jan 2, 2022 1:17:29 GMT -5
I'm not saying this is the reason he lost the TNT Title as a fact I'm simply saying it would make sense all things considered. I'd be far from shocked if it comes out at some point that TK punished Sammy for his indiscretion because of Sammy's history. What indiscretion though? They broke up in October. We have literally no idea the reason they broke up or when he and Tay started dating. The optics don't look good and AEW is all about its image as a social justice company. As I previously stated, maybe Sammy dropping the TNT Title after a short lackluster run is unrelated but the timing makes me wonder.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 2, 2022 1:31:44 GMT -5
What indiscretion though? They broke up in October. We have literally no idea the reason they broke up or when he and Tay started dating. The optics don't look good and AEW is all about its image as a social justice company. As I previously stated, maybe Sammy dropping the TNT Title after a short lackluster run is unrelated but the timing makes me wonder. What does breaking up with someone have to do with social justice? People break up all the time, even recently-engaged couples.
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Post by y4j1981 on Jan 2, 2022 2:04:31 GMT -5
The optics don't look good and AEW is all about its image as a social justice company. As I previously stated, maybe Sammy dropping the TNT Title after a short lackluster run is unrelated but the timing makes me wonder. What does breaking up with someone have to do with social justice? People break up all the time, even recently-engaged couples. Yea I don't understand he is getting at.. the reasoning thinking Sammy dropping the belt for braking up with someone and dating some else? Seems like a long stretch
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Post by Cyno on Jan 2, 2022 2:04:38 GMT -5
AEW doesn't have the image of a social justice company and people are making a lot of weird assumptions.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jan 2, 2022 2:09:00 GMT -5
AEW doesn't have the image of a social justice company and people are making a lot of weird assumptions. It’s a weird point to make, considering we’re seeing the company get grilled for the lack of diversity in its main event scene.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 2, 2022 4:17:41 GMT -5
"A guy proposed to his wife on-screen, they broke up a couple months later, and now, a few months after that, he is dating someone else" is not bad optics and it's kind of an unhinged reason for the company to be taking a title off of someone. This isn't a scandal.
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Post by King Devitt on Jan 2, 2022 4:51:59 GMT -5
For what it's worth, Sammy and Tay have both confirmed that rumour last night Yay! They look adorable together
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jan 2, 2022 6:06:35 GMT -5
Tay did later put a tweet about still trolling, so who knows
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 2, 2022 6:26:32 GMT -5
Even if it does turn out that Sammy was cheating with Tay and that it broke up his engagement, it's none of my @#$%ing business.
But yeah, maybe that did happen, but it's entirely possible it didn't, and that they simply started dating after Sammy's breakup, or maybe they're "still trolling". Their business, not mine.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 2, 2022 6:28:56 GMT -5
Even if it does turn out that Sammy was cheating with Tay and that it broke up his engagement, it's none of my @#$%ing business.But yeah, maybe that did happen, but it's entirely possible it didn't, and that they simply started dating after Sammy's breakup, or maybe they're "still trolling". Their business, not mine. Right. No crime is being committed, seemingly, or anything like that. Wrestling fans are tremendous gossips, and honestly always have been, but it's still just none of our business.
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Post by deezy on Jan 2, 2022 8:50:28 GMT -5
They're both adults and free to live their life however they want. The trolling part is getting kind of old but that's their prerogative.
I don't believe that's why they took the TNT title off of him. If it was that's shady on AEW's part. But I don't believe that.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 2, 2022 9:05:02 GMT -5
I doubt Sammy is being punished, more likely he was never intended to have a long run, they just needed a face to take the belt off Miro who was working hurt with returning the belt for Cody being the plan and didn't want to risk turning Miro face just yet by going against someone getting such mixed reactions.
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Post by Celgress on Jan 2, 2022 11:51:45 GMT -5
The optics don't look good and AEW is all about its image as a social justice company. As I previously stated, maybe Sammy dropping the TNT Title after a short lackluster run is unrelated but the timing makes me wonder. What does breaking up with someone have to do with social justice? People break up all the time, even recently-engaged couples. He used their platform to propose then cheated on the person he proposed to for who knows how long maybe even around the time he proposed. It isn't very hard to understand why TK and/or the EVPs might take a belt off a performer given such circumstances. I'm not saying this is a fact but that I would be far from shocked if such a behind-the-scenes story is eventually revealed by those involved.
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Post by Celgress on Jan 2, 2022 11:55:47 GMT -5
AEW doesn't have the image of a social justice company and people are making a lot of weird assumptions. I disagree with you. TK and the EVPs have gone out of their way to state AEW will be a "different kind of wrestling company" and that "everyone is welcome".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 11:59:43 GMT -5
*Tony Khan approaches Sammy Guevara backstage*
TK: Hey Sammy, due to recent events in your personal life making AEW look bad, we’re gonna have to take the TNT Title off you. Sorry, order came from Turner.
Sammy: What crime has been committed? Eating a meal? A succulent Brazilian meal?
*Sammy bursts into the Turner exec boardroom and throws the TNT belt onto the table*
Sammy: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest!
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