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Post by The Captain on Mar 9, 2022 14:24:53 GMT -5
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 9, 2022 15:35:31 GMT -5
Considering Pike was EASILY the highlight of Discovery season 2, I'm cautiously looking forward to this.
Cautiously, because of just about everything else Star Trek for the last decade.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Mar 9, 2022 19:40:03 GMT -5
This actually looks like Star Trek to be honest. I’d be all for a show that was the same tone as TOS. So I think this might have some promise.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Mar 9, 2022 19:48:01 GMT -5
It has a great cast and I already subscribed to Paramount+ for my dad so hopefully this is good Trek.
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 9, 2022 23:55:47 GMT -5
Considering Pike was EASILY the highlight of Discovery season 2, I'm cautiously looking forward to this. Cautiously, because of just about everything else Star Trek for the last decade. Considering it's a Kurtzman/Goldsman production, your hopes will be dashed. |
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Mar 11, 2022 2:19:48 GMT -5
I am curious just how strange and new these worlds will be. The stranger, the better. I could go either way on the newer part.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 15, 2022 19:05:11 GMT -5
The Vampire Diaries' Paul Wesley will join the cast in season two. |
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Post by The Captain on Mar 15, 2022 21:39:24 GMT -5
Paul Wesley is from my neck of the woods in New Jersey and that blows my mind.
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Post by CMWaters on Mar 15, 2022 22:36:31 GMT -5
The Vampire Diaries' Paul Wesley will join the cast in season two. {Spoiler}Wonder if this means they're gonna write Pike off getting to his Academy job for Season 2 and giving Kirk an earlier run in the Enterprise chair, or maybe Kirk is brought in Season 2 as a second officer under Pike and Number One to get some early experience before Enterprise is his.
Either way, that makes three TOS characters (not counting Pike and Number One since they were pilot only) that have been given a third actor now (since Uhura's also part of this series. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 15, 2022 22:59:25 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Wonder if this means they're gonna write Pike off getting to his Academy job for Season 2 and giving Kirk an earlier run in the Enterprise chair, or maybe Kirk is brought in Season 2 as a second officer under Pike and Number One to get some early experience before Enterprise is his. {Spoiler}Anson Mount confirmed he's still the lead for season 2. Best I can tell Strange New Worlds takes place around 2258-'59, and Kirk canonically is serving aboard the Farragut in 2257 and takes command of the Enterprise no later than 2265, so there's potentially a few years to play around with.
Kirk could be captain of the Farragut during the show, though in any case his involvement in the show does retcon the line from "The Menagerie" where Kirk says he only ever met Pike once, when Pike was promoted to fleet captain... assuming he and Pike actually do meet in Strange New Worlds. |
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Post by CMWaters on Mar 15, 2022 23:31:56 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Wonder if this means they're gonna write Pike off getting to his Academy job for Season 2 and giving Kirk an earlier run in the Enterprise chair, or maybe Kirk is brought in Season 2 as a second officer under Pike and Number One to get some early experience before Enterprise is his. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Anson Mount confirmed he's still the lead for season 2. Best I can tell Strange New Worlds takes place around 2258-'59, and Kirk canonically is serving aboard the Farragut in 2257 and takes command of the Enterprise no later than 2265, so there's potentially a few years to play around with.
Kirk could be captain of the Farragut during the show, though in any case his involvement in the show does retcon the line from "The Menagerie" where Kirk says he only ever met Pike once, when Pike was promoted to fleet captain... assuming he and Pike actually do meet in Strange New Worlds. {Spoiler}Or it could be hand-waved by a memory wipe or something, like how the Spore Drive was hand-waved away as being put under super secrecy in the 23rd Century so that even less people knew about that than knew about the Omega Directive. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 15, 2022 23:42:28 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Or it could be hand-waved by a memory wipe or something, like how the Spore Drive was hand-waved away as being put under super secrecy in the 23rd Century so that even less people knew about that than knew about the Omega Directive. {Spoiler}I'd be fine with that. Gene Roddenberry and his writing team had no idea his quirky sci-fi show would spawn a gargantuan universe that people would still be adding to almost 60 years later, so ignoring or retconning little details here and there from a show where the focus was on writing entertaining TV and getting renewed for the next year is perfectly acceptable in my eyes. Maybe not rewriting huge chunks of lore, but anywhere where there's wriggle room to slip something in a gap in the timeline? A-okay. |
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Post by The Captain on Mar 16, 2022 2:03:57 GMT -5
Honestly there's so much terminology and references from TOS that have already been retconned by TNG and later shows and movies (and within TOS itself; like the Enterprise changing from being specifically an Earth ship to the Federation). Like they used quadrant pretty much to refer to any decent sized area of space instead of "one of the four quarters of the entire galaxy" like everything else. And Leonard Nimoy once said this (granted it was about Trek 2009, but I think it applies here, too):
"Canon is only important to certain people because they have to cling to their knowledge of the minutiae. Open your mind! Be a ‘Star Trek’ fan and open your mind and say, ‘Where does Star Trek want to take me now?’."
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 16, 2022 2:57:52 GMT -5
Honestly there's so much terminology and references from TOS that have already been retconned by TNG and later shows and movies (and within TOS itself; like the Enterprise changing from being specifically an Earth ship to the Federation). Like they used quadrant pretty much to refer to any decent sized area of space instead of "one of the four quarters of the entire galaxy" like everything else. Probably the most noticeable one is the retconning of the Starfleet insignia we all know and love:  It was originally just the insignia of the Enterprise, with each ship having its own unique insignia. That was pretty much dropped in the third season, and officially retconned in TMP. Since then, of course, the insignia has been used by non-Enterprise ships prior to TOS, such as in Discovery and the Kelvin timeline before the point where time diverged, leading to a further retcon that only the Constitution-class ships in TOS had their own unique insignias. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 30, 2022 22:36:30 GMT -5
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Post by The Captain on Mar 30, 2022 22:56:53 GMT -5
I really like what I've seen with Hemmer and (Cadet) Uhura. Ortegas looks like a fun character, too.
Not sure what to make of La'an, though I really hope they don't go the "going to turn evil because KHAAAAAAAN" route with her.
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Post by crashmatsbazz on Mar 31, 2022 7:54:18 GMT -5
at least Michael Burnham wont be in it. We may actually see a Captain of a Starship deal with a bad guy/threat without tilting there head to the side and crying!
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 2, 2022 3:36:12 GMT -5
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Post by Feyrhausen on Apr 5, 2022 10:18:53 GMT -5
Honestly there's so much terminology and references from TOS that have already been retconned by TNG and later shows and movies (and within TOS itself; like the Enterprise changing from being specifically an Earth ship to the Federation). Like they used quadrant pretty much to refer to any decent sized area of space instead of "one of the four quarters of the entire galaxy" like everything else. Probably the most noticeable one is the retconning of the Starfleet insignia we all know and love: It was originally just the insignia of the Enterprise, with each ship having its own unique insignia. That was pretty much dropped in the third season, and officially retconned in TMP. Since then, of course, the insignia has been used by non-Enterprise ships prior to TOS, such as in Discovery and the Kelvin timeline before the point where time diverged, leading to a further retcon that only the Constitution-class ships in TOS had their own unique insignias. It was the intention that the arrowhead would be the symbol for all of Starfleet initially. There was a miscommunication that led to other ships getting their own symbols. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 10, 2022 11:10:03 GMT -5
{Spoiler}S’Chn T’Gai Spock. |
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