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Post by Cyno on Apr 9, 2022 13:07:52 GMT -5
9. Soul Calibur III I spent so many hours on this game. With character creation, Tales of Souls and Chronicles of the Sword, there was just so much to do. The new characters consisted of Setsuka, Zasalamel and Tira. A really solid bunch all with unique playstyles. I think this game is most well known for Chronicles of the Sword. It was like playing an RPG, taking your created character on a journey and leveling them up. I loved it. I know this game was a mess competitively. It was apparently full of glitches and was just utterly broken. So in that sense, I don't think the game is highly regarded in the tournament scene, and some people might say it was the start of SC's downfall. However, as just a button-mashing kid at the time who only played offline, this game was amazing. Honestly, my only complaint would be the QTEs. Yes, this game had QTEs. Wtf was that about? But they weren't frequent, so it's a nitpick. The original version was a mess competitively, but there was an Arcade-only edition that was much better balanced. Also added Li Long, Hwang, and Amy as fully fleshed out characters instead of using the Create-a-Character generic styles.
The generic Katana style was ridiculous, though. I loved abusing the AI with that. Meiga was the goat.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 9, 2022 14:12:22 GMT -5
9. Soul Calibur III I spent so many hours on this game. With character creation, Tales of Souls and Chronicles of the Sword, there was just so much to do. The new characters consisted of Setsuka, Zasalamel and Tira. A really solid bunch all with unique playstyles. I think this game is most well known for Chronicles of the Sword. It was like playing an RPG, taking your created character on a journey and leveling them up. I loved it. I know this game was a mess competitively. It was apparently full of glitches and was just utterly broken. So in that sense, I don't think the game is highly regarded in the tournament scene, and some people might say it was the start of SC's downfall. However, as just a button-mashing kid at the time who only played offline, this game was amazing. Honestly, my only complaint would be the QTEs. Yes, this game had QTEs. Wtf was that about? But they weren't frequent, so it's a nitpick. I never played SC III because those douchebags decided to make it PS2 exclusive and my PS2 died right around the time it came out. Didn’t get a new one until about 5 years later, ands it’s never been a game I’ve looped back to.
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Post by J is Justice on Apr 9, 2022 14:21:04 GMT -5
9. Soul Calibur III I spent so many hours on this game. With character creation, Tales of Souls and Chronicles of the Sword, there was just so much to do. The new characters consisted of Setsuka, Zasalamel and Tira. A really solid bunch all with unique playstyles. I think this game is most well known for Chronicles of the Sword. It was like playing an RPG, taking your created character on a journey and leveling them up. I loved it. I know this game was a mess competitively. It was apparently full of glitches and was just utterly broken. So in that sense, I don't think the game is highly regarded in the tournament scene, and some people might say it was the start of SC's downfall. However, as just a button-mashing kid at the time who only played offline, this game was amazing. Honestly, my only complaint would be the QTEs. Yes, this game had QTEs. Wtf was that about? But they weren't frequent, so it's a nitpick. Also added Li Long, Hwang, and Amy as fully fleshed out characters instead of using the Create-a-Character generic styles. Wow, I didn't know that. Wish we'd gotten a console version.
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Post by Cyno on Apr 9, 2022 14:39:49 GMT -5
Also added Li Long, Hwang, and Amy as fully fleshed out characters instead of using the Create-a-Character generic styles. Wow, I didn't know that. Wish we'd gotten a console version. Big same. It was a weird decision to make it arcade-only. Not even Japan got a console version of the revision. At least the spirit of Amy's rework made it into later SC games.
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Post by J is Justice on Apr 9, 2022 18:26:51 GMT -5
7. Dead or Alive 2 Another classic Dreamcast fighting game. This was another game that blew my young mind. Again, I have to compare it to Tekken and this just seemed faster and more exciting. The stages were so good. The first time I launched a character from a platform or through a window, I was hooked. The music is excellent, too, and is one of my favourite OSTs in any fighting game. Honestly, it might be considered underrated. If I had to pick a favourite theme, it would have to be Ein's. Like I said about the other DOAs, I feel like the biggest weakness of the series is the roster. They're all just kind of bland. By the way, Ein > Hayate. But, yeah, this game was great. Best DOA, in my opinion.
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Post by J is Justice on Apr 10, 2022 6:16:45 GMT -5
6. Soul Calibur Did I mention the Dreamcast had amazing fighting games? This was another one of those mind-blowing games I played as a kid. It was Tekken with weapons and it was the coolest thing ever. Admittedly, it's been a few years since I played it, so I'm struggling to remember specifics about the game modes. One thing that always stood out was the fact that you could customize the opening, which was definitely interesting. Soul Calibur is actually the fourth-highest rated game on Metacritic, which just shows how amazing it was at the time. I was struggling whether to place this above III, but I think this deserves to be higher just because of the impact it had on me.
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Post by pinja on Apr 10, 2022 6:46:19 GMT -5
Great choice and it holds up pretty well. I remember being confused back then: Did Namco rebrand Soul Blade/Edge due to the legal battle(?) they had with Edge magazine? I also didn't like some character changes at first, but at least Astaroth I instantly preferred over Rock.
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Post by J is Justice on Apr 10, 2022 9:14:29 GMT -5
5. Tekken 2 Talk about an improvement over the first game (and I loved that one, too). The graphics and music are both superior, and there are more characters and game modes this time. This game starts with a bang with its amazing opening. I'd rank it as the second best after 5. Refreshing my memory on this game, I remembered Team Battle mode. Not sure if this was the first game to have that mode, but I absolutely loved it as a kid. Do fighting games even have it anymore? It also added Time Attack and Survival. The OST is incredible. This might be controversial, but I rank it above every other Tekken game. King, Jun, Kazuya, Yoshimitsu and Paul all have excellent themes (and probably more that I'm forgetting). I actually like the story of this game, which might sound weird. I liked that Kauya in the first game kind of came off as a generic Ryu protagonist and now in this game, he's the main bad guy. Just thought that was a cool twist. Off the top of my head, this game introduced Jun, Lei, Bruce. All great characters, especially Jun (I'm a Jun fanboy). Unfortunately, there was only one character I couldn't beat the Arcade mode with when I was a kid and it was Yoshimitsu; which is funny because he'd become my main in later games. So no Kunimitsu for me! I actually had this game ranked above 3 for the longest time, but... yeah, hand on my heart, I have to say 3 is slightly better. Plus, former England goalkeeper David James claims that it was this game that contributed to his poor form, so I have to take that into consideration (this was in the Tekken 2 wikipedia article. Wut?).
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Post by pinja on Apr 10, 2022 9:49:09 GMT -5
It could have went a vastly different way if not for said improvement. Because not only was the first Tekken clunky, it also had superior competition with Battle Arena Toshinden. Actually, I think Toshinden sold better than Tekken. But then both released their second outings around the same time and Tekken 2 just smoked Toshinden 2. Interesting what-if story: What if Toshinden wouldn't have immediately fell off the wagon and improved just like Tekken did? I only really remember playing Tekken 2 in an Arcade station at a phone shop, but it hooked me so much.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 10, 2022 11:50:40 GMT -5
6. Soul Calibur Did I mention the Dreamcast had amazing fighting games? This was another one of those mind-blowing games I played as a kid. It was Tekken with weapons and it was the coolest thing ever. From 9/9/99 until PS2 launched in Oct 2000 the Dreamcast was THE console for fighting games and sports games. The Dreamcast has gotta be the greatest “failed” system ever, although depending on personal opinion and definition of “failed” the Wii U would have a strong argument.
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Post by Marvelous1LUFC on Apr 10, 2022 13:24:39 GMT -5
5. Tekken 2 Talk about an improvement over the first game (and I loved that one, too). The graphics and music are both superior, and there are more characters and game modes this time. This game starts with a bang with its amazing opening. I'd rank it as the second best after 5. Refreshing my memory on this game, I remembered Team Battle mode. Not sure if this was the first game to have that mode, but I absolutely loved it as a kid. Do fighting games even have it anymore? It also added Time Attack and Survival. The OST is incredible. This might be controversial, but I rank it above every other Tekken game. King, Jun, Kazuya, Yoshimitsu and Paul all have excellent themes (and probably more that I'm forgetting). I actually like the story of this game, which might sound weird. I liked that Kauya in the first game kind of came off as a generic Ryu protagonist and now in this game, he's the main bad guy. Just thought that was a cool twist. Off the top of my head, this game introduced Jun, Lei, Bruce. All great characters, especially Jun (I'm a Jun fanboy). Unfortunately, there was only one character I couldn't beat the Arcade mode with when I was a kid and it was Yoshimitsu; which is funny because he'd become my main in later games. So no Kunimitsu for me! I actually had this game ranked above 3 for the longest time, but... yeah, hand on my heart, I have to say 3 is slightly better. Plus, former England goalkeeper David James claims that it was this game that contributed to his poor form, so I have to take that into consideration (this was in the Tekken 2 wikipedia article. Wut?). From what i remember reading, it was tomb raider that caused his form to dip
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Post by J is Justice on Apr 10, 2022 16:00:44 GMT -5
4. Tekken 3 Guess it's not surprising that Tekken 3 is next. Again, it's pretty much an improvement in every way (except no Jun!). You can sidestep in this game, which I'm pretty sure wasn't possible in 2. That alone is a huge addition to the series. Even more modes were added, including Tekken Force and Tekken Ball. I thought both were insanely fun and I spent hours on them. I'm not even gonna attempt to list all the new characters in this game, because I'd be here all day. Although, a lot of them are basically palette swaps when it comes to their move sets. Speaking of that, this game succeeded in introducing new characters to replace the old ones, whereas it failed in SCV. I think the new characters are overall better than the old ones (though, I slightly prefer Bruce to Bryan). By the way, who can forget Gon (best ending) and Bosconovitch? I don't care what anyone says—I loved them! OST is amazing again, even though, like I said, I prefer T2's. Jin's theme is the best, in my opinion, but I love King's, too. I think that's pretty much all I have to say. It's one of the best fighting games ever. But is it the best Tekken? Hmmm.
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Post by Blade on Apr 10, 2022 17:17:46 GMT -5
Ah, Tekken 3. A friend and I once got into a (not very serious) argument over my assertion that 3d fighters were far more button-mashy and less skill-based than 2d fighters.
An argument I then went on to definitively win by popping a quarter into the Tekken 3 machine, picking Dr.Bosconovitch, and winning the first three arcade matches by mashing on the buttons with my face. Not the most dignified thing in the world, but a win's a win!
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Post by Cyno on Apr 10, 2022 17:38:25 GMT -5
The Tekken games are fun, but I don't think them or any other 3D fighters besides a Soul Calibur games would be in my top 10, much less top 5.
Though I do have respect for the Virtua Fighter games for how skill-intensive they could be.
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Post by J is Justice on Apr 11, 2022 6:12:31 GMT -5
3. Street Fighter II Guess it's no surprise SFII is so high, but maybe most people expected it to be number one. I love it but it's not quite my absolute favourite. What can I say about this game? It has iconic characters, an amazing OST and excellent gameplay. The great thing about this game is it's still playable even today. I can put this thing on and still have a great time. I was obsessed with this game as a kid, as I think most kids were. I rented both the movies (yes, even the live-action one) a million times. Me and my friends would wrongly pronounce the special moves on the playground. It was a monster hit. The only character I could beat this game with as a kid was Honda, just because spamming one hundred hand slap was so effective against the AI. I always found Sagat to be the most difficult fight. As for the different versions... honestly, I think I only owned Champions Edition as a kid. I did really want Super SFII with the new characters but I don't think I ever got it. Obviously, I've owned several versions that were released on the PS1 and PS2 but, surprisingly, I've never played HD Remix. When it comes to competitive SFII, I know a few things. I've heard the stories about Old Sagat, and Bison with his crossup psycho crusher. Guile was insane at one point. I think Blanka, Fei and Cammy were always pretty weak. Akuma was so broken he was banned at one point. No idea which versions these characters were in those states, but there you go. And with that, we're on to the top two!
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 11, 2022 8:15:56 GMT -5
3. Street Fighter II Guess it's no surprise SFII is so high, but maybe most people expected it to be number one. I love it but it's not quite my absolute favourite. What can I say about this game? It has iconic characters, an amazing OST and excellent gameplay. The great thing about this game is it's still playable even today. I can put this thing on and still have a great time. I was obsessed with this game as a kid, as I think most kids were. I rented both the movies (yes, even the live-action one) a million times. Me and my friends would wrongly pronounce the special moves on the playground. It was a monster hit. The only character I could beat this game with as a kid was Honda, just because spamming one hundred hand slap was so effective against the AI. I always found Sagat to be the most difficult fight. As for the different versions... honestly, I think I only owned Champions Edition as a kid. I did really want Super SFII with the new characters but I don't think I ever got it. Obviously, I've owned several versions that were released on the PS1 and PS2 but, surprisingly, I've never played HD Remix. When it comes to competitive SFII, I know a few things. I've heard the stories about Old Sagat, and Bison with his crossup psycho crusher. Guile was insane at one point. I think Blanka, Fei and Cammy were always pretty weak. Akuma was so broken he was banned at one point. No idea which versions these characters were in those states, but there you go. And with that, we're on to the top two! Vega was the CPU character that gave me fits in the first two versions of the game. Once I got past him I was likely to beat the game, but that was the dicey part for me.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 11, 2022 13:37:48 GMT -5
3. Street Fighter II Guess it's no surprise SFII is so high, but maybe most people expected it to be number one. I love it but it's not quite my absolute favourite. What can I say about this game? It has iconic characters, an amazing OST and excellent gameplay. The great thing about this game is it's still playable even today. I can put this thing on and still have a great time. I was obsessed with this game as a kid, as I think most kids were. I rented both the movies (yes, even the live-action one) a million times. Me and my friends would wrongly pronounce the special moves on the playground. It was a monster hit. The only character I could beat this game with as a kid was Honda, just because spamming one hundred hand slap was so effective against the AI. I always found Sagat to be the most difficult fight. As for the different versions... honestly, I think I only owned Champions Edition as a kid. I did really want Super SFII with the new characters but I don't think I ever got it. Obviously, I've owned several versions that were released on the PS1 and PS2 but, surprisingly, I've never played HD Remix. When it comes to competitive SFII, I know a few things. I've heard the stories about Old Sagat, and Bison with his crossup psycho crusher. Guile was insane at one point. I think Blanka, Fei and Cammy were always pretty weak. Akuma was so broken he was banned at one point. No idea which versions these characters were in those states, but there you go. And with that, we're on to the top two! Vega was the CPU character that gave me fits in the first two versions of the game. Once I got past him I was likely to beat the game, but that was the dicey part for me. Same here. Vega always wrecked me, that speedy motherf***er. That being said, SF II will always hold a special place in my heart, I love that game. I grew up in the era where you could find a SF II or SF II’ arcade cabinet everywhere. The mall had like 15 stores and 3 Street Fighter machines, every corner store had it, every rink had it, every pool hall had it. My cousin and I still get drunk and play SF II on the SNES from time to time. SF IV has overtaken it as my favourite fighting game ever, but SF II is the one that always gets the sentimental win from me
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Post by MrElijah on Apr 11, 2022 14:41:44 GMT -5
47. Street Fighter Alpha 2 I think I played this on one of the SF collections on PS1. This game added Rolento and Sakura, two of my favourite SF characters. Alpha 2 was a lot of fun but not quite as good as 3. I'm actually not sure if I played the first Alpha game. Maybe very briefly. You played the Alpha 2 Gold version. Ah, Alpha 2, the first fighting game I really put time in. I started with SF2 but Alpha 2 is near & dear to my heart.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 14:52:09 GMT -5
Yeah although I've had some questions about where certain games were placed (Alpha 2 for example since I'd put that in my top 10 but that's just me) this list as a whole (notably the top 25) is a classic list and pretty much fits in line with what I think about what fighters are great and whatnot. I don't know how everyone's grown up but this list really encapsulates most of my fighting game history. The closer we etched to the top 10 I was like "yep, yep, of course, that's what I'd put, alright, perfect" lol.
Like, Tekken 2 for example is a classic. People mention 3 a lot and I love 3, maybe more than 2 but 2 isn't talked about enough. It's soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo great lol. The music, atmosphere, story, characters? We gotta give respect to it. Purple suit Kazuya is one of the dopest characters ever.
And Tekken 5 is either 1 or 2. That game's so great that it's foundation is still used in Tekken today. I can't tell you how many hours I put into 5/DRO.
I'm also writing down these games because as someone who's going through older games, I've been meaning to play all these fighters/rpgs/platformers/all sorts of games from my past. A lot of the games here I forgot about.
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Post by J is Justice on Apr 11, 2022 15:43:44 GMT -5
2. Tekken 5 As soon as you start up Tekken 5, you know it's gonna be amazing. Why? Because it has the best opening to a fighting game ever! You've got Kazuya and Heihachi versus a million Jacks, Heihachi "dies" and then SPARKING starts playing. I still get goosebumps watching that opening. But what an improvement this game was over Tekken 4. They really listened to the criticism and just went all out. More characters, no more uneven stages, character customization, and they even added the first three Tekken games. There was a new Tekken Force type mode. Honestly, I wasn't a fan of it, though. There were so many characters in this game. A lot of Tekken 2 returns, with the likes of Bruce and Baek, etc, and they all had new moves. The new characters included Asuka, Feng Wei, Raven and Jinpachi. And technically there were others, like Roger Jr. I thought it was great they brought Jun's moveset back, though it was still very different in ways. Raven, though I didn't care about him in this game, would later become one of my mains (and then Master Raven). Feng's fun, too. Jinpachi is one of those cheap bosses every fg needs. This game introduced 'crush', which means moves will either go over or under moves. This is both annoying and hype. As a Xiaoyu main, I've made so many people rage by going under their shit. I barely know anything about competitive T5. I believe this version was really unbalanced and DR was much better in that regard. I want to say Steve was insanely OP. I spent so many hours on this game unlocking items to customize my characters with. Like, if I made a list of games I've spent the most time on (don't worry, that's not my next list), this would be in the top 10. There's only one fighting game I've played more...
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