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Post by eJm on Apr 20, 2022 4:44:12 GMT -5
I didn't want to go in here at first because, I'll be honest, some people here overreact to minor things and it makes this section sucky to go into but I sort of can see where people are coming from in certain ways. I try not to be too defensive and see other points but, again, some of the problems of this section come from people being really defensive or acting like decisions being made are going to kill the company or whatever (and I'm sorry, that is one of the reasons we've had so many damn announcements here). And yeah, I have been critical of stuff. Khan's a mixed bag PR wise (#CallBigSwoleForF***Sake), the women's division is progressing but slower than it really should be, they need to slow down the show at times and hype videos would do some stuff a world of good. But then, as HMARK Center said before, some people expect the show to follow the WWE template and it's weird because I don't even think WWE follow their own template anymore. They've mostly ditched the stuff that worked for them and replaced it with stuff that just makes me go "Cool, I'm right for not watching anymore".
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Post by lucas_lee on Apr 20, 2022 4:48:49 GMT -5
This is gonna be a bit of a personal diatribe so I hope if anyone reads it they can bear with me... I feel like I've been too defensive at points in defending a point because I personally just thought there was logic to defend it, or there was severe hyperbole being used in just how bad it was. In fairness, some of those instances that was in fact happening, but I feel like in doing so, I have made some people here legitimately upset on this Proboard, by simply trying to discuss something I am passionate about, and, ironically, trying to understand why there is such a negative connotation to the point or the argument. I feel like in some cases, this stigma has been unreasonable, but in other cases, if I've actually caused people legitimate distress by simply replying to them in a spirited way, it legitimately makes me feel guilty and upset, because I don't want to be pigeon hole'd into some "Only defends AEW" hole, because I don't think that's fair as I have been critical of plenty of AEW stuff, just like how when someone's negative on an angle, people have said "Are you ever happy about anything? All you do is shit on the product" in the past when they have been plenty positive and been cherry picked for a narrative, that shit isn't fair either and it's honestly pissed me off when I've seen it, because you swing so far in the other direction you ALSO end up being a problem yourself, doing the very thing you think you're preventing. I've seen some users publicly speak about the AEW Board even in other sections and how they've had to break from it because of the very stigma that negative opinion is either dogpiled or it's exhausting to see the fighting or negative ranting threads that pop up consistently. I, personally, don't want to be the reason some people either fall out of love with a product, or either don't want to post here or connect me to such a negative connotation, that they think me an asshole for how I respond to AEW negativity. It should never, ever get that far, that a message board or takes on it, are directly effecting your enjoyment of a product. I feel the same for fandom toxicity effecting how some people watch a product, people quitting watching something they love because of stuff like this is depressing, we should invite more people in, not make them want to leave and have a bad taste in their mouth. I've done a lot of self reflections on this, and I really do apologize to those I may have frustrated over the months if I've simply gone too far with arguments or defenses for what that may be worth. I've been looking to dial it back myself, really the AEW Board itself has just needed to dial it down several notches and I think we're all well aware of it, but to the point, there absolutely have been people who have simply tried and fan the flames in either direction, and bait for response here, far more than anything I have literally EVER seen in the WWE Thread, and I've been here almost a decade, it's quite alarming, and surprising, and I'd literally shudder to think how this place and the modern internet would have looked with WCW and ECW in their prime existing if they are this absolutely vile with AEW alone... but in the end, FAN's still one of the best places to discuss it, it's why I love being here, and doing it, and I hope that when it comes to AEW criticisms, people aren't afraid to post about them, and aren't afraid to express them. We have had lengthy "Unpopular AEW Opinion" threads come and go on this board, with no issue, and a ton of negative takes here, to again, really no issue... it's the people who This Player Hating Mothman said, try to conflate these feelings and takes, that I think has really been a problem here, miniscule in comparison to how bad it is on Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, etc, that thankfully has been solved in a lot of areas, but in others, can still look for improvement on, and I hope, on my end, I can do so, and help make the Boards more positive to be in as well. I think you should be applauded for your candor and willing to speak out about yourself. I know me and you have butted heads over our opinions but it was never personal just a difference of opinions.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 20, 2022 5:14:10 GMT -5
I didn't want to go in here at first because, I'll be honest, some people here overreact to minor things and it makes this section sucky to go into but I sort of can see where people are coming from in certain ways. I try not to be too defensive and see other points but, again, some of the problems of this section come from people being really defensive or acting like decisions being made are going to kill the company or whatever (and I'm sorry, that is one of the reasons we've had so many damn announcements here). And yeah, I have been critical of stuff. Khan's a mixed bag PR wise (#CallBigSwoleForF***Sake), the women's division is progressing but slower than it really should be, they need to slow down the show at times and hype videos would do some stuff a world of good. But then, as HMARK Center said before, some people expect the show to follow the WWE template and it's weird because I don't even think WWE follow their own template anymore. They've mostly ditched the stuff that worked for them and replaced it with stuff that just makes me go "Cool, I'm right for not watching anymore". I do sometimes wonder if some of the negativity comes from people remembering how Dixie Carter was basically give every opportunity to succeed and she flubbed each chance in such incredible fashion it almost looks like it was done on purpose (like seriously the last 2 years on Spike it takes a special type of incompetence for some of the issues TNA had), but that's me just wondering aloud. But also wanted to point out, you are right that people overreact. Bryan always makes jokes how AEW fans think he's on WWE's payroll and WWE fan's think Tony Khan pays him. It's legit like a weekly thing on either WOL or Bryan and Vinny
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Post by Bo Rida on Apr 20, 2022 6:12:45 GMT -5
I'm still wondering where the "can't criticise AEW" notion comes from. Like, the board attitude towards Baker beating Rosa at the ppv was not exactly a chorus of "let's see where they're going with this before we judge it". Even putting aside forum bete noirs like (formerly) Cody and Dan Lambert, there was for instance quite a lot of criticism here of MJF before his amazing match with Darby and feud with Punk seemed to positively shift opinion on him. I've certainly never felt any pressure to not criticise AEW, and I've done it quite a bit in the last year of watching it. Sometimes people agree, sometimes they don't. C'est la vie. I used to critise mjf often. Not his talent, just that he got way too much mic time so the good stuff was spread more thinly. Since then they've used him commentary, shorter backstage segments and a few in ring where he didn't say as much but it meant more (the final beatdown of Punk being the perfect example). The longer promos are better as a result. So yeah there's plenty to critise but I think sometimes it's annoying when unjustified or an overreaction. Maybe not here but you often hear stuff said about Bucks matches that seem to come from people that haven't actually watched them and that sort of thing causes defensiveness.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 20, 2022 6:37:33 GMT -5
My personal frustration is when I think people are rating AEW, or any other wrestling for that matter, based on how WWE operates and the kinds of tropes it's made a lot of people come to expect from televised arena wrestling in the US. Besides that, I'm sure this isn't really the case but where I think some of the defensiveness comes from is the perception that AEW (or, again, basically any other pro wrestling show) pretty much needs to be perfect in the eyes of many fans, while WWE just needs to put on a decent show or two to get a lot of "Look everyone, it's good again!" reviews or what have you. Like, a good night of Wrestlemania that had a few good/very good matches had some folks ready to say WWE was saved, while I feel like a lot of other promotions don't get that kind of leeway...no shade whatsoever at people who genuinely enjoyed said night of Wrestlemania, mind you, some of that did look fun. Weirdly, I've always felt like it was the other way around. WWE, because of all their historical baggage, have to be the ones putting on perfect shows week after week just to convince people that they're not about to fall back into bad habits. While other promotions like AEW don't, because people are more willing to tolerate their slip ups and stay the course. I think it depends on the setting; again, not saying this is what actually happens in totality, but the perception kind of feels like that to me on platforms like Twitter or sometimes Reddit, simply because a lot of people are used to watching WWE and can sometimes be very hesitant in giving another wrestling promotion (be it AEW or anything else) much rope. I think this board might be different, as even in our WWE section the general view of WWE itself tends to the icy side. I've brought this up before, but I guess I also still have memories of trying to sell people on matches like the Joe vs. Punk series in ROH and getting the whole "REAL wrestling tells STORIES!" responses, all while I wildly gesture at Punk building an intense one hour story around a damn headlock and asking "how is this not a story?!". Gets that way sometimes when discussing puro to people who don't watch it much, like the whole "I don't get it, all they did was chop/do forearm shots" from folks who'll then criticize the Young Bucks for doing too many moves or something. Again, I wonder if it's less to do with WWE or these other promotions themselves and more to do with the tropes and expectations people have developed about what wrestling "is" over the last 20+ years.
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Post by bob on Apr 20, 2022 8:23:18 GMT -5
These also tend to be the people who act like the one person arguing with them is the entire board. I think we can all agree that if any one person should become a monolithic representation of this board, it's just bob posting the confused Titus O'Neil gif. That's the real united front of the AEW section and maybe the Dynamite live thread this week should be only the confused Titus gif. Pages and pages of confused Titus. I've been summoned to perform a task
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Apr 20, 2022 8:36:14 GMT -5
I think we can all agree that if any one person should become a monolithic representation of this board, it's just bob posting the confused Titus O'Neil gif. That's the real united front of the AEW section and maybe the Dynamite live thread this week should be only the confused Titus gif. Pages and pages of confused Titus. I've been summoned to perform a task
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 20, 2022 8:42:09 GMT -5
This is gonna be a bit of a personal diatribe so I hope if anyone reads it they can bear with me... I feel like I've been too defensive at points in defending a point because I personally just thought there was logic to defend it, or there was severe hyperbole being used in just how bad it was. In fairness, some of those instances that was in fact happening, but I feel like in doing so, I have made some people here legitimately upset on this Proboard, by simply trying to discuss something I am passionate about, and, ironically, trying to understand why there is such a negative connotation to the point or the argument. I feel like in some cases, this stigma has been unreasonable, but in other cases, if I've actually caused people legitimate distress by simply replying to them in a spirited way, it legitimately makes me feel guilty and upset, because I don't want to be pigeon hole'd into some "Only defends AEW" hole, because I don't think that's fair as I have been critical of plenty of AEW stuff, just like how when someone's negative on an angle, people have said "Are you ever happy about anything? All you do is shit on the product" in the past when they have been plenty positive and been cherry picked for a narrative, that shit isn't fair either and it's honestly pissed me off when I've seen it, because you swing so far in the other direction you ALSO end up being a problem yourself, doing the very thing you think you're preventing. I've seen some users publicly speak about the AEW Board even in other sections and how they've had to break from it because of the very stigma that negative opinion is either dogpiled or it's exhausting to see the fighting or negative ranting threads that pop up consistently. I, personally, don't want to be the reason some people either fall out of love with a product, or either don't want to post here or connect me to such a negative connotation, that they think me an asshole for how I respond to AEW negativity. It should never, ever get that far, that a message board or takes on it, are directly effecting your enjoyment of a product. I feel the same for fandom toxicity effecting how some people watch a product, people quitting watching something they love because of stuff like this is depressing, we should invite more people in, not make them want to leave and have a bad taste in their mouth. I've done a lot of self reflections on this, and I really do apologize to those I may have frustrated over the months if I've simply gone too far with arguments or defenses for what that may be worth. I've been looking to dial it back myself, really the AEW Board itself has just needed to dial it down several notches and I think we're all well aware of it, but to the point, there absolutely have been people who have simply tried and fan the flames in either direction, and bait for response here, far more than anything I have literally EVER seen in the WWE Thread, and I've been here almost a decade, it's quite alarming, and surprising, and I'd literally shudder to think how this place and the modern internet would have looked with WCW and ECW in their prime existing if they are this absolutely vile with AEW alone... but in the end, FAN's still one of the best places to discuss it, it's why I love being here, and doing it, and I hope that when it comes to AEW criticisms, people aren't afraid to post about them, and aren't afraid to express them. We have had lengthy "Unpopular AEW Opinion" threads come and go on this board, with no issue, and a ton of negative takes here, to again, really no issue... it's the people who This Player Hating Mothman said, try to conflate these feelings and takes, that I think has really been a problem here, miniscule in comparison to how bad it is on Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, etc, that thankfully has been solved in a lot of areas, but in others, can still look for improvement on, and I hope, on my end, I can do so, and help make the Boards more positive to be in as well. There have been times I have thought you have gone a bit too far but I just wanted to take a moment to tip my hat to you for this because it's mature as hell. You clearly love this stuff and that's why we're all here. Cheers, bud.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 20, 2022 9:00:47 GMT -5
This is gonna be a bit of a personal diatribe so I hope if anyone reads it they can bear with me... I feel like I've been too defensive at points in defending a point because I personally just thought there was logic to defend it, or there was severe hyperbole being used in just how bad it was. In fairness, some of those instances that was in fact happening, but I feel like in doing so, I have made some people here legitimately upset on this Proboard, by simply trying to discuss something I am passionate about, and, ironically, trying to understand why there is such a negative connotation to the point or the argument. I feel like in some cases, this stigma has been unreasonable, but in other cases, if I've actually caused people legitimate distress by simply replying to them in a spirited way, it legitimately makes me feel guilty and upset, because I don't want to be pigeon hole'd into some "Only defends AEW" hole, because I don't think that's fair as I have been critical of plenty of AEW stuff, just like how when someone's negative on an angle, people have said "Are you ever happy about anything? All you do is shit on the product" in the past when they have been plenty positive and been cherry picked for a narrative, that shit isn't fair either and it's honestly pissed me off when I've seen it, because you swing so far in the other direction you ALSO end up being a problem yourself, doing the very thing you think you're preventing. I've seen some users publicly speak about the AEW Board even in other sections and how they've had to break from it because of the very stigma that negative opinion is either dogpiled or it's exhausting to see the fighting or negative ranting threads that pop up consistently. I, personally, don't want to be the reason some people either fall out of love with a product, or either don't want to post here or connect me to such a negative connotation, that they think me an asshole for how I respond to AEW negativity. It should never, ever get that far, that a message board or takes on it, are directly effecting your enjoyment of a product. I feel the same for fandom toxicity effecting how some people watch a product, people quitting watching something they love because of stuff like this is depressing, we should invite more people in, not make them want to leave and have a bad taste in their mouth. I've done a lot of self reflections on this, and I really do apologize to those I may have frustrated over the months if I've simply gone too far with arguments or defenses for what that may be worth. I've been looking to dial it back myself, really the AEW Board itself has just needed to dial it down several notches and I think we're all well aware of it, but to the point, there absolutely have been people who have simply tried and fan the flames in either direction, and bait for response here, far more than anything I have literally EVER seen in the WWE Thread, and I've been here almost a decade, it's quite alarming, and surprising, and I'd literally shudder to think how this place and the modern internet would have looked with WCW and ECW in their prime existing if they are this absolutely vile with AEW alone... but in the end, FAN's still one of the best places to discuss it, it's why I love being here, and doing it, and I hope that when it comes to AEW criticisms, people aren't afraid to post about them, and aren't afraid to express them. We have had lengthy "Unpopular AEW Opinion" threads come and go on this board, with no issue, and a ton of negative takes here, to again, really no issue... it's the people who This Player Hating Mothman said, try to conflate these feelings and takes, that I think has really been a problem here, miniscule in comparison to how bad it is on Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, etc, that thankfully has been solved in a lot of areas, but in others, can still look for improvement on, and I hope, on my end, I can do so, and help make the Boards more positive to be in as well. To echo what others have said: I don't always agree with you (and vice versa) but I respect the hell out of you for this post. We as a wrestling fandom need to be better about treating each other like fellow fans and not rival gang members. People like different flavors of ice cream, so to speak. I think it was Brian Zane who said "Like what you like, just don't be a dick". We all need to follow that wisdom
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Post by markymark on Apr 20, 2022 11:22:01 GMT -5
I didn't want to go in here at first because, I'll be honest, some people here overreact to minor things and it makes this section sucky to go into but I sort of can see where people are coming from in certain ways. I try not to be too defensive and see other points but, again, some of the problems of this section come from people being really defensive or acting like decisions being made are going to kill the company or whatever (and I'm sorry, that is one of the reasons we've had so many damn announcements here). And yeah, I have been critical of stuff. Khan's a mixed bag PR wise (#CallBigSwoleForF***Sake), the women's division is progressing but slower than it really should be, they need to slow down the show at times and hype videos would do some stuff a world of good. But then, as HMARK Center said before, some people expect the show to follow the WWE template and it's weird because I don't even think WWE follow their own template anymore. They've mostly ditched the stuff that worked for them and replaced it with stuff that just makes me go "Cool, I'm right for not watching anymore". I do sometimes wonder if some of the negativity comes from people remembering how Dixie Carter was basically give every opportunity to succeed and she flubbed each chance in such incredible fashion it almost looks like it was done on purpose (like seriously the last 2 years on Spike it takes a special type of incompetence for some of the issues TNA had), but that's me just wondering aloud. But also wanted to point out, you are right that people overreact. Bryan always makes jokes how AEW fans think he's on WWE's payroll and WWE fan's think Tony Khan pays him. It's legit like a weekly thing on either WOL or Bryan and Vinny
I really feel some still have bad memories of Dixie 1 million announcements that will change the landscape of wrestling only to be letdowns, and also how she ran the company post Spike tv from the bouncing checks to treating talent like garbage to calling Destination America president a dummy, to QUIT HATING.
Lets not forget how the TNA section was in the mid 2010s, with rarely any discussion about the product and 99% was about bashing the company, I wouldnt like to see this section become like that again.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 20, 2022 12:11:51 GMT -5
Here’s what all fans should try:
Never, ever say or imply you like “good wrestling “ or “true,real pro wrestling”.
There’s too many styles, it’s too subjective. Anything can be the best or worst thing to all varieties of fans.
There. That’d solve a lot of tension between fans of companies.
You don’t like good wrestling. You just like what you like. That’s it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2022 12:21:50 GMT -5
Here’s what all fans should try: Never, ever say or imply you like “good wrestling “ or “true,real pro wrestling”. There’s too many styles, it’s too subjective. Anything can be the best or worst thing to all varieties of fans. There. That’d solve a lot of tension between fans of companies. You don’t like good wrestling. You just like what you like. That’s it. Love it. I think most of my issue truly is this really. See i like the outlandish and it is exactly why NXT 2.0 is right up my ally. It doesn't take itself too seriously and is always off the wall and the fanbase accepts it as such. I have always been a fan of guys like Danielson but will gravitate more towards a guy like Jericho (not that he cant go)... I truly enjoy seeing how these amazing performers are able to take tropes and horrible storylines and writing and make it work when it shouldnt in front of a live audience. WM was a prime example of that with that rough card on paper. I hope no one takes offense as I am generalizing here but when it's "wrestle man wrestles good" *COUGH*RODERICK STRONG*COUGH* I just lose interest because at the end of the day the winner was decided before the bell even rung and strangely enough the "wrestling" aspect of wrestling has gone down the totem pole to me mainly because we are in an age where everyone with any name cred is more athletically gifted between the ropes and does 100 more moves than most of the 70s, 80s, and hell a lot of the 90s rosters due to the evolution of the sport alone...IMO the over the top characters are now what is lacking.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 20, 2022 12:23:44 GMT -5
RE: Danhausen
Apparently the plan was to use him with OC right after the Adam Cole match but Injuries put a stop to that plan. Maybe we would have gotten something more substancial.
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Post by Hypnosis on Apr 20, 2022 12:30:57 GMT -5
RE: Danhausen Apparently the plan was to use him with OC right after the Adam Cole match but Injuries put a stop to that plan. Maybe we would have gotten something more substancial. I hope we still get that team when Danhausen's fully healed.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 20, 2022 17:18:23 GMT -5
I have definitely been a part of making this particular sub forum an overly negative place to be.
Sometimes it's my just having to bring up AEW's problems in every thread - as if reminding the users of this forum of them enough times will make Tony Khan change his booking?
I also realised that while cjb and I have posted thousands of words at each other, the only times I ever actually got heated with him were because I couldn't just... agree that we have differing opinions and step away from it. These days, I am HYPED when he and I start a back and forth because getting other fans' opinions is the whole purpose of a fan forum.
I don't recall being a part of any pro-AEW dog pile however, but that doesn't mean I never was part of one, and I don't plan on being in any more. This forum is an escape from shitty reality, I don't want to make anyone mad on here or BE mad on here. And discussing the problems with a promotion I still really love is therapeutic.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 20, 2022 17:20:11 GMT -5
This is gonna be a bit of a personal diatribe so I hope if anyone reads it they can bear with me... I feel like I've been too defensive at points in defending a point because I personally just thought there was logic to defend it, or there was severe hyperbole being used in just how bad it was. In fairness, some of those instances that was in fact happening, but I feel like in doing so, I have made some people here legitimately upset on this Proboard, by simply trying to discuss something I am passionate about, and, ironically, trying to understand why there is such a negative connotation to the point or the argument. I feel like in some cases, this stigma has been unreasonable, but in other cases, if I've actually caused people legitimate distress by simply replying to them in a spirited way, it legitimately makes me feel guilty and upset, because I don't want to be pigeon hole'd into some "Only defends AEW" hole, because I don't think that's fair as I have been critical of plenty of AEW stuff, just like how when someone's negative on an angle, people have said "Are you ever happy about anything? All you do is shit on the product" in the past when they have been plenty positive and been cherry picked for a narrative, that shit isn't fair either and it's honestly pissed me off when I've seen it, because you swing so far in the other direction you ALSO end up being a problem yourself, doing the very thing you think you're preventing. I've seen some users publicly speak about the AEW Board even in other sections and how they've had to break from it because of the very stigma that negative opinion is either dogpiled or it's exhausting to see the fighting or negative ranting threads that pop up consistently. I, personally, don't want to be the reason some people either fall out of love with a product, or either don't want to post here or connect me to such a negative connotation, that they think me an asshole for how I respond to AEW negativity. It should never, ever get that far, that a message board or takes on it, are directly effecting your enjoyment of a product. I feel the same for fandom toxicity effecting how some people watch a product, people quitting watching something they love because of stuff like this is depressing, we should invite more people in, not make them want to leave and have a bad taste in their mouth. I've done a lot of self reflections on this, and I really do apologize to those I may have frustrated over the months if I've simply gone too far with arguments or defenses for what that may be worth. I've been looking to dial it back myself, really the AEW Board itself has just needed to dial it down several notches and I think we're all well aware of it, but to the point, there absolutely have been people who have simply tried and fan the flames in either direction, and bait for response here, far more than anything I have literally EVER seen in the WWE Thread, and I've been here almost a decade, it's quite alarming, and surprising, and I'd literally shudder to think how this place and the modern internet would have looked with WCW and ECW in their prime existing if they are this absolutely vile with AEW alone... but in the end, FAN's still one of the best places to discuss it, it's why I love being here, and doing it, and I hope that when it comes to AEW criticisms, people aren't afraid to post about them, and aren't afraid to express them. We have had lengthy "Unpopular AEW Opinion" threads come and go on this board, with no issue, and a ton of negative takes here, to again, really no issue... it's the people who This Player Hating Mothman said, try to conflate these feelings and takes, that I think has really been a problem here, miniscule in comparison to how bad it is on Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, etc, that thankfully has been solved in a lot of areas, but in others, can still look for improvement on, and I hope, on my end, I can do so, and help make the Boards more positive to be in as well. Also, heroic f***ing post
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 20, 2022 17:25:25 GMT -5
Here’s what all fans should try: Never, ever say or imply you like “good wrestling “ or “true,real pro wrestling”. There’s too many styles, it’s too subjective. Anything can be the best or worst thing to all varieties of fans. There. That’d solve a lot of tension between fans of companies. You don’t like good wrestling. You just like what you like. That’s it. Love it. I think most of my issue truly is this really. See i like the outlandish and it is exactly why NXT 2.0 is right up my ally. It doesn't take itself too seriously and is always off the wall and the fanbase accepts it as such. I have always been a fan of guys like Danielson but will gravitate more towards a guy like Jericho (not that he cant go)... I truly enjoy seeing how these amazing performers are able to take tropes and horrible storylines and writing and make it work when it shouldnt in front of a live audience. WM was a prime example of that with that rough card on paper. I hope no one takes offense as I am generalizing here but when it's "wrestle man wrestles good" *COUGH*RODERICK STRONG*COUGH* I just lose interest because at the end of the day the winner was decided before the bell even rung and strangely enough the "wrestling" aspect of wrestling has gone down the totem pole to me mainly because we are in an age where everyone with any name cred is more athletically gifted between the ropes and does 100 more moves than most of the 70s, 80s, and hell a lot of the 90s rosters due to the evolution of the sport alone...IMO the over the top characters are now what is lacking. Right, it’s the variation of wrestling that attracts me to it. I love the nitty gritty and I’ll recommend the best of Misawa or Okada or Flair vs Race to anyone wanting to get into wrestling, but I also loved Stadium Stampede and Sami getting his shit rocked by Johnny Knoxville like a Bugs Bunny villain. Even if there’s stuff I’d like to see AEW try more of, I won’t pretend what I want is the absolute peak of the business. Just my own preferences.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 20, 2022 23:25:20 GMT -5
I do think it pretty nicely illustrates his point that I posted something about that Britt promo being bad on a different site and immediately got accused of being a bot.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 20, 2022 23:32:24 GMT -5
I do think it pretty nicely illustrates his point that I posted something about that Britt promo being bad on a different site and immediately got accused of being a bot. New name: Lizuka is a Bot, or Botzuka?
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Post by Cyno on Apr 21, 2022 1:59:47 GMT -5
I do think it pretty nicely illustrates his point that I posted something about that Britt promo being bad on a different site and immediately got accused of being a bot. Beep boop.
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