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Post by chrom on Jan 6, 2023 10:51:05 GMT -5
Crossed the 1.5 billion mark, safe to say it's gonna be joining the 2 billion club.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 6, 2023 12:38:36 GMT -5
And yet again, little or no pop culture impact. Few if any social media talk or memes. Even mainstream and corporate media are't talking about it. This franchise comes across as an extremely successful theme park ride rather than a film. Once it's over, you forget about it until you visit it again in a few years.
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Post by thechase on Jan 6, 2023 12:41:03 GMT -5
This franchise comes across as an extremely successful theme park ride rather than a film. I wasn't aware it was made by Marvel Studios
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 6, 2023 12:43:40 GMT -5
This franchise comes across as an extremely successful theme park ride rather than a film. So it was made by Marvel Studios then? Not really. Marvel movies generate more lasting pop culture impact. This franchise is strangely devoid of it.
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Post by Fade on Jan 6, 2023 12:45:15 GMT -5
This franchise comes across as an extremely successful theme park ride rather than a film. I wasn't aware it was made by Marvel Studios
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Jan 6, 2023 14:44:35 GMT -5
This franchise comes across as an extremely successful theme park ride rather than a film. I wasn't aware it was made by Marvel Studios
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jan 6, 2023 21:14:40 GMT -5
It's making a lot of money, but to the extent I've seen anyone talking about it it's been discussion about how much money it will make.
I don't like this. The original sucked, I don't give a shit about the sequel and I don't know anyone who does, but somehow it's going to become one of the highest grossing films ever and we'll get even more of this story no one cares about.
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Post by Fade on Jan 7, 2023 20:35:57 GMT -5
It's making a lot of money, but to the extent I've seen anyone talking about it it's been discussion about how much money it will make. I don't like this. The original sucked, I don't give a shit about the sequel and I don't know anyone who does, but somehow it's going to become one of the highest grossing films ever and we'll get even more of this story no one cares about. Even I doubted him for a second this time around. Hopefully I watch it soon, the second I find anyone with the slightest bit of interest.
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Post by thechase on Jan 8, 2023 10:30:49 GMT -5
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Post by chrom on Jan 8, 2023 15:25:51 GMT -5
Disney is very pleased with their success.
Maybe we'll get a second Shaman on the boat ride at World.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jan 8, 2023 18:29:34 GMT -5
So it was made by Marvel Studios then? Not really. Marvel movies generate more lasting pop culture impact. This franchise is strangely devoid of it. Granted, Marvel films are based on characters that have been around for a good while and have had some pop culture significance. Avatar’s characters and worlds don’t have that same luxury.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 8, 2023 18:52:08 GMT -5
Granted, Marvel films are based on characters that have been around for a good while and have had some pop culture significance. Avatar’s characters and worlds don’t have that same luxury. Honestly, the world is what will have the main lasting impact of these movies, if there will be anything at all. The characters are about as cookie cutter as it gets, but Pandora itself is gorgeous.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 8, 2023 21:34:55 GMT -5
I do wonder how much of the $1.5 Billion+ box office is word of mouth going "You gotta see this movie, it's pretty!" versus actual interest in the plot.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 8, 2023 21:49:21 GMT -5
I do wonder how much of the $1.5 Billion+ box office is word of mouth going "You gotta see this movie, it's pretty!" versus actual interest in the plot. Something that anecdotally backs up other posts about how nobody's actually talking about the movie, I've yet to come across anybody on social media posting anything even remotely resembling a spoiler. Lots of posts about how amazing it looks, how long it is, its box office, and fanart of varying levels of safe-for-workness. Next to nothing about the plot or characters. Compare that with your average big Marvel, DC, Star Wars, etc. release, or even movies like M3GAN, and you pretty much have to mute hashtags to avoid half the plot being spoiled for you. On the Avatar hashtags you can go pages deep before someone even mentions a plot point. Of course, I think even Cameron must at least admit privately that the appeal of Avatar is the in-theatre experience. The first movie was revolutionary, and by all accounts the sequel is on that level. People have needed a reason to go back to the theatre en masse, and this movie seems to be it.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Jan 8, 2023 22:11:48 GMT -5
To pull apart the bullshit nonsense "cultural impact" argument some more:
Why do we *even want* something like a movie like Avatar (or any other top movie of the year, for that matter) to have a long-term cultural impact anyway? Why do we feel like intellectual properties *have* to exist in perpetuity?
I always think about this when it comes to stories from brands like Transformers, GI Joe, He-Man, and Star Wars. It's always the same old, same old story about these toys, resurrected and reheated: Autobots vs. Decepticons, Joe vs. Hydra, He-Man vs. Skeletor, the Empire/First Order/Sith vs. the Rebellion/Resistance/Sith. Or Marvel and DC characters who are frozen in amber and can't ever grow, change, and evolve because fans always want characters to exist only as they first read them in the comics.
I enjoy the fact that something like Avatar can be this ephemeral thing that can come and go at the whims of its creator. More pop culture should be allowed to fall away and be forgotten once it has been used up. Why do we even want to continue to suckle on the withered teats on the desicated corpses of these IPs?
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Post by AwamoriRock on Jan 8, 2023 22:20:20 GMT -5
To pull apart the bullshit nonsense "cultural impact" argument some more: Why do we *even want* something like a movie like Avatar (or any other top movie of the year, for that matter) to have a long-term cultural impact anyway? Why do we feel like intellectual properties *have* to exist in perpetuity? I always think about this when it comes to stories from brands like Transformers, GI Joe, He-Man, and Star Wars. It's always the same old, same old story about these toys, resurrected and reheated: Autobots vs. Decepticons, Joe vs. Hydra, He-Man vs. Skeletor, the Empire/First Order/Sith vs. the Rebellion/Resistance/Sith. Or Marvel and DC characters who are frozen in amber and can't ever grow, change, and evolve because fans always want characters to exist only as they first read them in the comics. I enjoy the fact that something like Avatar can be this ephemeral thing that can come and go at the whims of its creator. More pop culture should be allowed to fall away and be forgotten once it has been used up. Why do we even want to continue to suckle on the withered teats on the desicated corpses of these IPs? But my friends who only talk about our interests don’t talk about it
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Post by Cyno on Jan 8, 2023 22:22:41 GMT -5
I do wonder how much of the $1.5 Billion+ box office is word of mouth going "You gotta see this movie, it's pretty!" versus actual interest in the plot. That's really why most people are seeing it because the plot is basically "White Savior Rescues Native Americans Part 2, with Native Americans being represented by coded blue aliens and not a single indigenous actor." But I guess it's okay because there's going to be evil Fire Na'vi in Avatar 3 or something.
The movie itself is gorgeous and probably why the Pandora section of the Animal Kingdom park works out so well.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 8, 2023 22:31:12 GMT -5
I watched it last night with a friend
It was better than the first film plot wise to me, I connected to the characters more or just overall cared about what happened to them more than the first film
But the main selling point were the visuals and what could be pushed to be done, and they delivered. If you're going just for visual eye candy? You're getting it for three hours and it won't let you down
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 9, 2023 7:07:25 GMT -5
I agree with the premise that the main reason to see the movie is that it's gorgeous.
But see, that's not a knock. People sometimes go to movies for a purely visceral experience.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 9, 2023 7:21:46 GMT -5
I do wonder how much of the $1.5 Billion+ box office is word of mouth going "You gotta see this movie, it's pretty!" versus actual interest in the plot. That's really why most people are seeing it because the plot is basically "White Savior Rescues Native Americans Part 2, with Native Americans being represented by coded blue aliens and not a single indigenous actor." But I guess it's okay because there's going to be evil Fire Na'vi in Avatar 3 or something.
The movie itself is gorgeous and probably why the Pandora section of the Animal Kingdom park works out so well. Now, now, that's not entirely fair. They also crib shit from Pacific Islanders for this, too. I have... disdain... for this franchise, but I am not shocked of its success. James Cameron knows what works, even if that doesn't necessarily equal something I am especially interested in sometimes.
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