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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 5, 2022 22:56:02 GMT -5
Idk how much the vertigo effected him, or what matches it effected him in, but again, just a testament to Omega that he was always crisp, you wouldn't have even known it But Cody's is a legit "Shut your body down" injury, I just do think that's stupider and adds more risk. But both are healing as they should now, hopefully. Wrestling with vertigo is a waaaaay more dangerous thing than wrestling with a torn pec. Torn pec, you can really only injure yourself. Vertigo you can drop your opponent on your head. It's crazy that Omega was still considered such a safe, crisp worker even with that though I don't think he ever really f***ed up any spot, I think he also said that he adapted to it though, so I'm not gonna comment further on it Cody's torn pec isn't something I'm gonna say it worse than what Omega was going through, but I just wouldn't have done the match, and I hope he didn't make it worse.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jun 5, 2022 22:56:10 GMT -5
I don’t know the exact number. Maybe it wasn’t 100 because he wasn’t working house shows but it was definitely dozens upon dozens of matches over a couple of years. He literally said so himself. Your eyes might fool you because Cody’s ailment is actually visible to us viewers but working a match (let alone every match for 2-3 years) with vertigo is far riskier than working with a torn pec. Idk how much the vertigo effected him, or what matches it effected him in, but again, just a testament to Omega that he was always crisp, you wouldn't have even known it But Cody's is a legit "Shut your body down" injury, I just do think that's stupider and adds more risk. But both are healing as they should now, hopefully. Again, it was literally every match since that specific Okada dropkick. He talked about it with Meltzer and I’m sure multiple other interviews last year. Sorry but this isn’t an agree to disagree thing. There is no world in which wrestling with vertigo is less riskier than wrestling with a torn pec.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 5, 2022 22:56:53 GMT -5
Let it be known that was the best match I've ever seen by someone with a glowing pulsating homunculus on their boob Malakai Black will be very disappointed to hear that ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 5, 2022 23:01:06 GMT -5
Let it be known that was the best match I've ever seen by someone with a glowing pulsating homunculus on their boob Kuato was about to burst out of Cody's chest and tell Seth to start the reactor.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 5, 2022 23:01:14 GMT -5
Idk how much the vertigo effected him, or what matches it effected him in, but again, just a testament to Omega that he was always crisp, you wouldn't have even known it But Cody's is a legit "Shut your body down" injury, I just do think that's stupider and adds more risk. But both are healing as they should now, hopefully. Again, it was literally every match since that specific Okada dropkick. He talked about it with Meltzer and I’m sure multiple other interviews last year. Sorry but this isn’t an agree to disagree thing. There is no world in which wrestling with vertigo is less riskier than wrestling with a torn pec. Omega also shared in those very same interviews how he had adapted to it, and it never effected his in ring performance, which just, to me, is a bit different than what Cody's injury was, where he wasn't so much a worry to his opponent but I worried about himself getting f***ed up further I'm not trying to make this a "Which injury is worse" thing or trying to justify either, can we just move on and be glad Omega's healing and getting that worked on and Cody hopefully, will also safely recover now?
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jun 5, 2022 23:21:20 GMT -5
Again, it was literally every match since that specific Okada dropkick. He talked about it with Meltzer and I’m sure multiple other interviews last year. Sorry but this isn’t an agree to disagree thing. There is no world in which wrestling with vertigo is less riskier than wrestling with a torn pec. Omega also shared in those very same interviews how he had adapted to it, and it never effected his in ring performance, which just, to me, is a bit different than what Cody's injury was, where he wasn't so much a worry to his opponent but I worried about himself getting f***ed up further I'm not trying to make this a "Which injury is worse" thing or trying to justify either, can we just move on and be glad Omega's healing and getting that worked on and Cody hopefully, will also safely recover now? Well it came off as what the kids would call concern trolling when you’re saying you were side eyeing Meltzer and fans praising Cody for working hurt when you said the following a few months ago. If Kenny Omega didn't prove to you he is one of the best wrestlers to maybe ever do this... wrestling with all those issues PLUS Vertigo for YEARS and still putting out the match quality he was putting out until he finally took time off should really do it.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Jun 5, 2022 23:52:14 GMT -5
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 5, 2022 23:53:52 GMT -5
This was the modern equivalent to Mankind vs Undertaker Hell in a Cell, for anything good and bad alike. A fascinating spectacle, but certainly not prudent.
(Undertaker did it with a screwed-up foot and Mick was injured for most of the match, even if he wasn't hurt when he walked out there for it, so I feel the comparison stands.)
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Post by Nosnorb on Jun 6, 2022 0:03:23 GMT -5
This was the modern equivalent to Mankind vs Undertaker Hell in a Cell, for anything good and bad alike. A fascinating spectacle, but certainly not prudent. (Undertaker did it with a screwed-up foot and Mick was injured for most of the match, even if he wasn't hurt when he walked out there for it, so I feel the comparison stands.) IIRC, strickly speaking Mick was injured for all of that match, as the bell hadn't rung when he was thrown off the cell onto the announce table.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 6, 2022 0:05:22 GMT -5
This was the modern equivalent to Mankind vs Undertaker Hell in a Cell, for anything good and bad alike. A fascinating spectacle, but certainly not prudent. (Undertaker did it with a screwed-up foot and Mick was injured for most of the match, even if he wasn't hurt when he walked out there for it, so I feel the comparison stands.) IIRC, strickly speaking Mick was injured for all of that match, as the bell hadn't rung when he was thrown off the cell onto the announce table. I forget exactly what he got from the first spot, but yeah, he definitely did get hurt from that, even if was able to climb the cell again. I could be remembering wrong, but I could swear he said something like that adrenaline weirdly made it easier to climb the second time than the first, but it's been ages since I read Have A Nice Day.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jun 6, 2022 0:08:08 GMT -5
This was the modern equivalent to Mankind vs Undertaker Hell in a Cell, for anything good and bad alike. A fascinating spectacle, but certainly not prudent. (Undertaker did it with a screwed-up foot and Mick was injured for most of the match, even if he wasn't hurt when he walked out there for it, so I feel the comparison stands.) IIRC, strickly speaking Mick was injured for all of that match, as the bell hadn't rung when he was thrown off the cell onto the announce table. To be fair I think Mick wrestled injured every match he ever worked post like 1992.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jun 6, 2022 0:11:16 GMT -5
Did anyone even notice that Seth had a bit of table sticking out of his arm for a bit?
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Jun 6, 2022 0:14:46 GMT -5
Tonight is one of those nights that makes me keep watching this company. I will say that. For better or for worse, this company thrives on having unbelievable moments.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 6, 2022 0:16:00 GMT -5
Did anyone even notice that Seth had a bit of table sticking out of his arm for a bit? Was that why he was bleeding out of his arm later in the match?
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jun 6, 2022 0:18:19 GMT -5
Did anyone even notice that Seth had a bit of table sticking out of his arm for a bit? Was that why he was bleeding out of his arm later in the match? Pretty sure, yeah.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 6, 2022 0:18:23 GMT -5
Omega also shared in those very same interviews how he had adapted to it, and it never effected his in ring performance, which just, to me, is a bit different than what Cody's injury was, where he wasn't so much a worry to his opponent but I worried about himself getting f***ed up further I'm not trying to make this a "Which injury is worse" thing or trying to justify either, can we just move on and be glad Omega's healing and getting that worked on and Cody hopefully, will also safely recover now? Well it came off as what the kids would call concern trolling when you’re saying you were side eyeing Meltzer and fans praising Cody for working hurt when you said the following a few months ago. If Kenny Omega didn't prove to you he is one of the best wrestlers to maybe ever do this... wrestling with all those issues PLUS Vertigo for YEARS and still putting out the match quality he was putting out until he finally took time off should really do it. I saw it as a different scenario tonight. Kenny was able to work through his stuff and it never effected his in ring work and nothing that he had was a debilitating injury where you essentially might need a half a year off at that point. He worked three years in AEW essentially and he was fine, I'm not even saying Cody was a danger to anyone, I was side eyeing Meltzer and "Match of the Year" folks because I don't want it to set a precedent. I don't want people doing what Cody did, and to be clear, I don't want people doing what Omega did either. I did give props to Cody in multiple posts, like Kenny though, I hope he's thinking for what's best for his career, in Cody's case with how serious it was at that moment, I didn't agree with it, it is what is is. But me giving Omega props for working through his hardships and still being one of the best in the world despite that months ago, isn't concern trolling on my end, I literally just thought in that moment, and in that scenario, Cody shouldn't have done the match, because I didn't think it was worth it to further risk what was already a really nasty injury nor do I think it was needed to "make" a man who was already and should have already been there. Cody Rhodes heart, determination, and ability to work a match has never been in doubt in this discussion, and what he did was impressive, but just like Omega, I hope he's all good when he comes back. That's where I'm leaving this.
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Post by cornettesracket on Jun 6, 2022 3:28:34 GMT -5
What Cody did last night was amazing but we shouldn't make it the rule. Wrestlers shouldn’t work that injured. But still that man has guts.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 6, 2022 4:40:55 GMT -5
It'll be really weird if this, of all things, gets WWE their first main roster 5 star match in ages, but this is also such a bizarre case that it'd be difficult to argue with it just since, well, how do you even rate something this unusual?
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jun 6, 2022 7:07:40 GMT -5
Fun as that match was, Cody’s a dumbass.
Get that shit taken care of and extend your long term health.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Jun 6, 2022 7:31:45 GMT -5
With this card and what Backlash had, I'm wondering what the ticket sales will be like for the B Shows going forward especially if fans realise that they aren't getting the big matches and all the stars. Might be looking for even more intimate venues I want to touch on this point before the show but will touch on it now. It's mostly a moot point since WWE doesn't have a glorified B show until Day 1 next year. But if they book them like Wrestlemania Backlash or HITC tonight where you are guaranteed to get a three-hour night of just wrestling and no tv taping bs, I wouldn't see why they would get fewer ticket sales.
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