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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 24, 2022 13:10:55 GMT -5
While I agree Gresham was unprofessional here, I do think that Tony really needs to start adding some management structure to the company instead of what seems to be by all reports, just flying by the seat of his pants when it comes to talent relations. A lot of communication issues funny enough started when Chris Daniels and QT Marshall (who do a lot of the talent work) started taking outside bookings. Now at the end of the day Tony needs to sort things out since he now has two wrestling promotions and Fulham to run. That being said, this is par for the course for Gresham. While I wouldn't say he's like a Low Ki or Austin Aries or Teddy Hart where he's unprofessional in the ring, he is very much difficult to work with behind the scenes. There's a reason why it took years and ROH being in a desperate spot for talent for him to get a legitimate shot at a bigger promotion. And for those talking about Terminus. Gresham threw a hissy fit after the 2nd show and basically shut things down because of a ref botch and the mixed reception of the show. They did have their 3rd show recently but from Gresham's own words Terminus is Baron Black's project now so any Terminus show is done by him. Great great wrestler, but again having followed his career I'm neither shocked by this nor do I really have much sympathy overall
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Post by markymark on Jul 24, 2022 13:15:14 GMT -5
I think Tony needs to perhaps find some qualified people who can handle some of these duties full time. It’s took much for any one person to try and handle alone. Apparently Christopher Daniels is supposed to be helping out with this stuff, but just like Tony, tends to ghost talents if he doesn't like them. It's becoming more of a "feature" in AEW at this point than an issue, and that's a problem.
This issue has becoming more apparent ever since Kenny went to hiatus, they clearly need more help backstage, look at Impact for example their talents relations person is Gail Kim but she has like 2-3 more people helping her with communicating with talent
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 24, 2022 13:15:38 GMT -5
SRS is saying there is a talent relations department BTW. So while not absolving Tony of blame, it does sound like he may need to rethink whose in that department
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jul 24, 2022 13:15:54 GMT -5
AEW is starting to develop a serious talent relations issue.
And it’s really cowardly to ghost Gresham just because he doesn’t like or get him. If you don’t like them, don’t have him go over Bandido and put him on your main promotion’s shows out of obligation.
As unprofessional as Gresham is, this is starting to become a recurring issue.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jul 24, 2022 13:16:03 GMT -5
Honestly in general Gresham just kind of comes off as incredibly up his own ass. Not to say TK's blameless here, he doesn't seem the best with this kind of thing, but Gresham's got a pretty clear track record at this point.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 24, 2022 13:16:16 GMT -5
I'm curious what the communication issues were because unlike Marko for example, Gresham was coming to TV the past few weeks. He was shooting angles. He was working matches. He did interviews for their Countdown show. He must have been communicating with someone even if it wasn't Tony Khan. Perhaps he just wanted more facetime with the boss which I get but it would surprise me if he was asking for it and just never got it. It's an odd situation that seemed to escalate very quickly.
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Post by Facetious on Jul 24, 2022 13:16:18 GMT -5
I've been a fan of Gresh since his Chikara days and this is on brand. BUT, he is right about communication. Marko was pretty much ghosted and the mentioned Emi issues, it's clear there is a major issue here
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jul 24, 2022 13:18:11 GMT -5
I'm curious what the communication issues were because unlike Marko for example, Gresham was coming to TV the past few weeks. He was shooting angles. He was working matches. He did interviews for their Countdown show. He must have been communicating with someone even if it wasn't Tony Khan. Perhaps he just wanted more facetime with the boss which I get but it would surprise me if he was asking for it and just never got it. It's an odd situation that seemed to escalate very quickly. And if he’s the world champion and the boss isn’t giving him the time of day, I absolutely understand being pissed off at that.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 24, 2022 13:18:54 GMT -5
How do you get ghosted by someone who books you to come and appear on his television show three to four weeks in a row? Something isn't adding up.
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Post by Chiral on Jul 24, 2022 13:20:09 GMT -5
I think this is a work, clearly to set up a big ROH vs. The TERMINUS storyline
[THIS IS A JOKE I DO NOT ACTUALLY THINK THIS]
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jul 24, 2022 13:20:26 GMT -5
How do you get ghosted by someone who books you to come and appear on his television show three to four weeks in a row? Something isn't adding up. I mean, he’s the world champion. You have to have him on if you’re building your PPV. Doesn’t mean you have to like him or want anything to do with him but, you don’t have a choice there.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jul 24, 2022 13:21:22 GMT -5
Tony has done a great job but AEW is probably too big now to be dealing with all of the talent by himself. He probably needs a management team at this stage if lack of communication is a problem.
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Post by Kalmia on Jul 24, 2022 13:22:36 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if AEW/ROH have been poor in communicating with Gresham, but I also wouldn't be surprised if Gresham is over reacting to something. It's probably a little of both, if past stories are true.
Give both sides time to cool off and if Gresham still wants his release in a week or two, then give it to him, IMO.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 24, 2022 13:23:14 GMT -5
How do you get ghosted by someone who books you to come and appear on his television show three to four weeks in a row? Something isn't adding up. From the little SRS has said there is a talent relations department, and the common denominator right now may be Christopher Daniels
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Jul 24, 2022 13:23:39 GMT -5
AEW having issues in their talent relations department?
I've got a feeling that John Laurenitis is going to be looking for a job soon...
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Post by lionheart21 on Jul 24, 2022 13:27:58 GMT -5
AEW having issues in their talent relations department? I've got a feeling that John Laurenitis is going to be looking for a job soon...
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Post by Facetious on Jul 24, 2022 13:28:09 GMT -5
AEW having issues in their talent relations department? I've got a feeling that John Laurenitis is going to be looking for a job soon... TK: Oh, you don't like how I do things? *smirks* Excalibur: OMG could it be?? Johnny Ace of All Japan fame!!!! He's held titles with the greats Kenta Kobashi and Dr Death!! The CREATOROFTHEACECRUSHERANDFORMERHEADOFTALENTRELATIONSINWWEISALLELITE!!!!
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Post by Texas Tornado on Jul 24, 2022 13:29:24 GMT -5
While I agree Gresham was unprofessional here, I do think that Tony really needs to start adding some management structure to the company instead of what seems to be by all reports, just flying by the seat of his pants when it comes to talent relations. A lot of communication issues funny enough started when Chris Daniels and QT Marshall (who do a lot of the talent work) started taking outside bookings. Now at the end of the day Tony needs to sort things out since he now has two wrestling promotions and Fulham to run. That being said, this is par for the course for Gresham. While I wouldn't say he's like a Low Ki or Austin Aries or Teddy Hart where he's unprofessional in the ring, he is very much difficult to work with behind the scenes. There's a reason why it took years and ROH being in a desperate spot for talent for him to get a legitimate shot at a bigger promotion. And for those talking about Terminus. Gresham threw a hissy fit after the 2nd show and basically shut things down because of a ref botch and the mixed reception of the show. They did have their 3rd show recently but from Gresham's own words Terminus is Baron Black's project now so any Terminus show is done by him. Great great wrestler, but again having followed his career I'm neither shocked by this nor do I really have much sympathy overall Homie quit his own promotion after the second show? Maybe he does need to take a break from wrestling. That's really odd.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jul 24, 2022 13:32:03 GMT -5
I hope whatever blowup Gresham had wasn’t the cause of putting the world title match first on the show. It would be really shitty if it was.
Claudio’s first world title win shouldn’t jerk the curtain. I don’t care if Gresham trashed his whole hotel room.
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Post by Andy Martin on Jul 24, 2022 13:32:18 GMT -5
AEW having issues in their talent relations department? I've got a feeling that John Laurenitis is going to be looking for a job soon... TK: Oh, you don't like how I do things? *smirks* Excalibur: OMG could it be?? Johnny Ace of All Japan fame!!!! He's held titles with the greats Kenta Kobashi and Dr Death!! The CREATOROFTHEACECRUSHERANDFORMERHEADOFTALENTRELATIONSINWWEISALLELITE!!!! PEOPLE POWER HAS ARRIVED IN AEW!
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