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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Aug 14, 2022 11:43:38 GMT -5
Oh man. Those punches. Holy shit, lol
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Post by Jacy Jayne Atomic Dog AMV on Aug 14, 2022 12:28:16 GMT -5
Oh man. Those punches. Holy shit, lol The fact that he flips him off like f*** YOU afterwards is what gets me. Like damn you've definitely got him now and definitely aren't gonna get kissed dude.
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Post by Jacy Jayne Atomic Dog AMV on Aug 14, 2022 12:30:38 GMT -5
The only thing I have to add is that I wish Mox would stop throwing shoot headbutts. Like why f*** up your brain when you could have ended the match by giving Effy brain so good he died?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 14, 2022 13:37:58 GMT -5
I haven't seen the match, probably won't, but even if it was a match I personally would find bad, who really cares? The kinds of people who are going to see Moxley on GCW are the type of people who would buy a GCW show. I don't think it's all that potentially damaging to him to be off doing something else in another promotion, especially for a smaller audience. If Moxley was over there throwing around ethnic slurs and a Warner Discovery exec was watching then that'd be pretty bad, but even if it was just "a bad match", so what? Everyone's gonna have bad matches. There's been bad matches on AEW television itself. Moxley could be pinned by ten guys in a row for Suplex Cigar Wrestling dressed like a circus clown and it's not going to make me watch him on AEW TV and go 'man I just can't take this dude seriously' because I can distinguish one show from another. Hell, on the subject of AEW having bad matches, Moxley managed to survive that Hager match with minimal damage and that's arguably the worst match in the company's history. In high standing? Yeah probably, it was a world title match, but I truly think they suffered from being in an empty arena and not really being able to take advantage of it being a street fight because it was early onset pandemic But worst match ever is still Nakazawa vs Jebailey or anything Mel did I think
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 14, 2022 13:38:45 GMT -5
Oh man. Those punches. Holy shit, lol Took a few years but that Dark Order member finally revealed themselves
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Aug 15, 2022 9:35:22 GMT -5
Zero problem with the kissing. Effys Shane McMahon punches at the end though were horrible. I just felt the whole presentation felt small to me. But we all have our different opinions. Was it the part where EFFY was in the sleeper, and...?
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Post by sundaygravy on Aug 15, 2022 9:45:23 GMT -5
Maybe I’m a biased primarily WWE fan. But I watched Mox vs Effy on GCW tonight. It was the drizzling shits and makes Mox looks like a scrub. The good news is I don’t think many were watching. But Tony needs to be more careful about what he lets his guys do. I love the open borders idea. But this was too much. Agree. AEW has a chance to be big time. Need to cut ties with low level garbage. Keep good relations with NJPW and Impact but that's enough. Really makes Mox look like a goof. Imagine Roman ever mixing it up in the low low minor leagues.
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Post by sushiburrito on Aug 15, 2022 11:04:17 GMT -5
Effy is definitely a better character than a wrestler and I'm surprised anyone thought the match would be good, but.... Except for his match with Deppen, I haven't really been impressed with any of Mox's GCW title defenses, and I don't think it helps him or GCW for him to lose the title to an aging, broken down Nick Gage. Mox getting mobbed by fans during his entrance and having a beer shoved in his face was a terrible look too. They should've had Cogar win it at the Hammerstein show, or strapped up Deppen or Blake Christian when they had the chance. Cogar bounced before the Hammerstein I think that was the plan and formed Circle 6. I really don't know who can beat Mox now. Whoever does gets a massive rub, but it might be underwhelming as well Cogar was on the Hammerstein show. Him and 44oh got beat down by SGC and Sabu. And his last appearance there was in February.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Aug 15, 2022 11:16:04 GMT -5
Nah let him do more to help people get to grips with the idea that WWE and AEW show presentatons shouldnt be the standard and comes off worse copying that shit than doing what you can with what you have. let him wrestle smaller companies and lesser known talent. Literally nobody will give a shit by tomorrow. The amount of people who'll make any real conscious change to the way they see Mox or the company because they worked an indie is as close to zero as is humanly possible. The less everything is like the way people say it should be the better.
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Post by CeilingFan on Aug 15, 2022 11:22:20 GMT -5
Personally, I feel that AEW should cut all ties with GCW. I am not a fan of their extreme style.
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Post by lucas_lee on Aug 15, 2022 11:40:08 GMT -5
Personally, I feel that AEW should cut all ties with GCW. I am not a fan of their extreme style. Why should they when AEW has done deathmatches independent of GCW? It would be insanely hypocritical.
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 15, 2022 11:46:56 GMT -5
As long as the wrestler wants to do it and it doesn't interfere with commitments to their 'main' promotion, wrestlers should be able to wrestle wherever they want. I've never seen a GCW show and have zero interest in it but if Mox wants to do it, let him. He's an independent contractor after all.
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Post by CeilingFan on Aug 15, 2022 11:50:44 GMT -5
Personally, I feel that AEW should cut all ties with GCW. I am not a fan of their extreme style. Why should they when AEW has done deathmatches independent of GCW? It would be insanely hypocritical. True, but GCW does them more frequently.
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Post by Burst on Aug 15, 2022 11:58:00 GMT -5
While I get the idea of not wanting your top level guys to get randomly injured or get bad publicity from doing indy dates, especially if you're building to a PPV, I don't think anyone is looking at Mox as less of a champion because he's associated with "low level garbage".
You see the same argument all the time in NASCAR about whether guys should be allowed to race low-level short track or dirt dates. Has that backfired on the big name drivers? Yes, but at the same time, your guys that are racer's racers (or wrestler's wrestlers, if you will) are going to find a way to do it either way, up to the point of it being a negotiable item on contracts.
Bringing it back to AEW, to be the devil's advocate in this argument, where do you draw the line for "you can't do indy dates" when that was a big part of the draw for a lot of folks coming to AEW in the first place? Okay sure, if you're someone on a pay-per-appearance deal, it'd be stupid to force exclusivity on you. IIf you're someone that's contracted but has had limited TV time or is basically waiting for storyline pieces to move along (e.g. whatever the heck Shawn Spears has been up to), keeping you from moonlighting to "protect the brand" just feels like a very WWE tactic.
I don't think there's anywhere that says that to be a big-name wrestling promotion you either have to keep your guys exclusive or only let them associate with approved promotions.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 12:11:29 GMT -5
Why should they when AEW has done deathmatches independent of GCW? It would be insanely hypocritical. True, but GCW does them more frequently. Wasnt there blood like 2 minutes into Dynamite? Lauderdale may prefer the crazy but GCW is not a complete hardcore garbage fed just stupid decisions during their hardcore matches and no one to really tell them no or where the line is. GCW at this point is an mixture of everything independent wrestling and their shows are some of the most fun I have ever been to live and I hate typical hardcore. Also it got Ol Mancer on TV and anything that does that is good for business.
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Post by 06vwgti on Aug 15, 2022 12:12:46 GMT -5
Heh, I nearly written something in this post about NASCAR drivers doing rural middle of nowhere dirt track racing, but wasn't sure how to get the wording out on it. But that was the closest comparison I could see. I know I've had friends gush over being in the same Cha(u)mp car/Lemons race over prominent racers and calling it a great experience even being passed by them like it was nothing.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 15, 2022 12:32:09 GMT -5
Heh, I nearly written something in this post about NASCAR drivers doing rural middle of nowhere dirt track racing, but wasn't sure how to get the wording out on it. But that was the closest comparison I could see. I know I've had friends gush over being in the same Cha(u)mp car/Lemons race over prominent racers and calling it a great experience even being passed by them like it was nothing. I think the locals here have had quite enough of getting spanked by Kyle Larson. Anyway, back on topic, I guess with Mox it's just a little different, because the dude loves to bleed. It just seems like a higher risk of something going wrong outside of AEW.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 15, 2022 12:39:53 GMT -5
Nah let him do more to help people get to grips with the idea that WWE and AEW show presentatons arent shouldnt be the standard and comes off worse copying that shit than doing what you can with what you have. let him wrestle smaller companies and lesser known talent. Literally nobody will give a shit by tomorrow. The amount of people who'll make any real conscious change to the way they see Mox or the company because they worked an indie is as close to zero as is humanly possible. The less everything is like the way people say it should be the better. The only people trying to make it a big deal are the morons on places like scjerks and trolls like aewbotches.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Aug 15, 2022 12:39:57 GMT -5
So, let’s talk about homemade pizza. Pretty awesome isn’t it?
I had one Friday night and it was *chefs kiss*
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 15, 2022 12:44:39 GMT -5
Honestly if Mox wants to do GCW that's cool but now that AEW has him vs Punk set for All Out he's gotta be VERY careful with all of his bookings. Like that's the one time with Tony now I may say no to an outside booking
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