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Post by sportatorium on Aug 15, 2022 12:59:30 GMT -5
I guess I look at Moxley as a vet who understands what his spot in AEW means and how to weigh the risks of taking bookings outside of the company. If he was a rookie or younger wrestler doing insane spots it would be more worrisome to me. As far as what happened in the match, if it is over with the audience, and safe for the wrestlers then it's a wrestling match. Everything isn't going to be Flair/Steamboat.
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Post by lucas_lee on Aug 15, 2022 13:08:19 GMT -5
Why should they when AEW has done deathmatches independent of GCW? It would be insanely hypocritical. True, but GCW does them more frequently. Most of their shows have been tame compared to their older days. I get its not your cup of tea but AEW has been doing deathmatches and blood it seems weekly in a bigger platform. So wouldn't AEW get more of your ire? |
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Post by CeilingFan on Aug 15, 2022 13:16:25 GMT -5
True, but GCW does them more frequently. Most of their shows have been tame compared to their older days. I get its not your cup of tea but AEW has been doing deathmatches and blood it seems weekly in a bigger platform. So wouldn't AEW get more of your ire? AEW gets my money. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 13:20:48 GMT -5
Eh, I love the fact that Moxley is getting to do whatever the hell he seems to want. Dude is on the run of a lifetime and if he's motivated then I'm there for it. Only worry is the guy burning himself out but he doesn't seem to be showing any signs of it so let the guy do his thing.
I do think the ending kiss spot of the Effy/Moxley match wasn't really done the best. Not because it was 2 guys kissing, but simply because I didn't like the execution of the kiss... wait and stare.... and then Death Rider finish. Had it been done more quickly and as a shock I feel I would have enjoyed it more but I think the time where they both stared at each other in disbelief was just a bit too long. I do think this match is getting undo hate due to the fact that it's two guys kissing and I don't really feel comfortable adding to that but it just didn't really work for me the way it was executed. Good match outside of that nitpick though.
I do think that if Moxley gets injured while champ working a show outside of AEW that it will lead to TK not allowing a lot more wrestlers to do these types of matches. Mox doesn't need to do these things to get by but maybe someone lower on the card in AEW could truly use the extra cash and exposure. I just hope this doesn't lead to people like that losing opportunities down the line because of a freak accident. Moxley using his star power to help out GCW is awesome (and also the reason I began to check it out) so there's positives and negatives to every scenario really.
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Post by lucas_lee on Aug 15, 2022 13:31:25 GMT -5
Most of their shows have been tame compared to their older days. I get its not your cup of tea but AEW has been doing deathmatches and blood it seems weekly in a bigger platform. So wouldn't AEW get more of your ire? AEW gets my money. Different strokes for different folks I suppose. |
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Post by Some Guy on Aug 15, 2022 13:34:54 GMT -5
Technically Bloodsport is under GCW's umbrella and his match with Biff was really great, but other than that his GCW opponents have kind of stunk (outside of Deppen) so it's mostly just a fun side thing with him. I agree with others that have said Effy is a better character than worker and that's why they ultimately didn't mesh, whatever it happens. He should still be able to do whatver he wants.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 15, 2022 13:43:47 GMT -5
It also has to be said, but hardcore/deathmatch types of matches in AEW and GCW tend to be superficial in terms of injuries they inflict. Nothing that would take out someone for months that couldn't also happen in a more mundane match.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Aug 15, 2022 17:15:07 GMT -5
“Our current champion got injured which f***ed up all our plans, let’s have our interim champion risk injury for this D-grade shitshow.”
Even if Mox doesn’t want to move on from this garbage, AEW absolutely should.
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Post by The Ichi on Aug 15, 2022 17:28:16 GMT -5
“Our current champion got injured which f***ed up all our plans, let’s have our interim champion risk injury for this D-grade shitshow.” Even if Mox doesn’t want to move on from this garbage, AEW absolutely should. I don't know how many times it needs to be said that injuries in wrestling (including AEW's recent large string of them) very rarely happen in deathmatches. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 17:31:56 GMT -5
Zero problem with the kissing. Effys Shane McMahon punches at the end though were horrible. I just felt the whole presentation felt small to me. But we all have our different opinions. although i thought the match was fine, this guys opinion is pretty widespread rn, effy's work in general has been lambasted in that match and ESPECIALLY those punches as for me, honestly, i think mox doing matches like this and seemingly fighting everywhere adds to his gimmick. makes him exactly who he is. and besides the constant blading, that is one of the best wrestlers in the world |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 17:32:27 GMT -5
The only thing I have to add is that I wish Mox would stop throwing shoot headbutts. Like why f*** up your brain when you could have ended the match by giving Effy brain so good he died? i need to start watching GCW yesterday |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 18:18:16 GMT -5
I thought Effy’s punches looked old school and bad ass. Mox just standing there no selling then made them look awful.
Gage vs. Mox doesn’t need the title, and Gage disappears for months at a time due to health and personal reasons. Mox in GCW has kinda run it’s course as he’s Brocked the entire roster. I would have had agaves cost him the title to Effy.
Dude deserves it, even if some of stuff has been hit or miss lately.
I get Gage is their cash cow but they should be setting up Mance vs. Mox 2 with Mance having home field advantage.
Oh it’s title vs. career… I guess.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Aug 15, 2022 18:36:49 GMT -5
I thought Effy’s punches looked old school and bad ass. Mox just standing there no selling then made them look awful. Gage vs. Mox doesn’t need the title, and Gage disappears for months at a time due to health and personal reasons. Mox in GCW has kinda run it’s course as he’s Brocked the entire roster. I would have had agaves cost him the title to Effy. Dude deserves it, even if some of stuff has been hit or miss lately. I get Gage is their cash cow but they should be setting up Mance vs. Mox 2 with Mance having home field advantage. Oh it’s title vs. career… I guess. For his own good I'm hoping Gage loses. He can't keep going like this, his body is totally wrecked to the point where him walking is sad to watch. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Aug 15, 2022 18:54:23 GMT -5
So, let’s talk about homemade pizza. Pretty awesome isn’t it? I had one Friday night and it was *chefs kiss* 🤷🏼♂️ yeah but how to you feel about pineapple on it  |
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Aug 15, 2022 19:53:37 GMT -5
So, let’s talk about homemade pizza. Pretty awesome isn’t it? I had one Friday night and it was *chefs kiss* 🤷🏼♂️ yeah but how to you feel about pineapple on it This one had pepperoni, cheese, and mushrooms. I’d have been perfectly fine if it had also had pineapple on it 😁 |
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Aug 15, 2022 20:06:21 GMT -5
Different strokes for different folks I suppose. "Strokes"...I see what you did there. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 15, 2022 20:14:15 GMT -5
I thought Effy’s punches looked old school and bad ass. Mox just standing there no selling then made them look awful. Gage vs. Mox doesn’t need the title, and Gage disappears for months at a time due to health and personal reasons. Mox in GCW has kinda run it’s course as he’s Brocked the entire roster. I would have had agaves cost him the title to Effy. Dude deserves it, even if some of stuff has been hit or miss lately. I get Gage is their cash cow but they should be setting up Mance vs. Mox 2 with Mance having home field advantage. Oh it’s title vs. career… I guess. For his own good I'm hoping Gage loses. He can't keep going like this, his body is totally wrecked to the point where him walking is sad to watch. One of the reasons I'm not a huge fan of those in charge of GCW. They tend to enable some people who they shouldn't (especially Gage) and I believe that's a big reason why Cogar left GCW |
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Aug 15, 2022 20:16:53 GMT -5
So, let’s talk about homemade pizza. Pretty awesome isn’t it? I had one Friday night and it was *chefs kiss* 🤷🏼♂️ yeah but how to you feel about pineapple on it Pineapple and Anchovy is magnificent. |
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Aug 15, 2022 20:18:20 GMT -5
For his own good I'm hoping Gage loses. He can't keep going like this, his body is totally wrecked to the point where him walking is sad to watch. One of the reasons I'm not a huge fan of those in charge of GCW. They tend to enable some people who they shouldn't (especially Gage) and I believe that's a big reason why Cogar left GCW Weird as it is to bring him up in this context, that's something I respect about Dana White. He knows when to tell a fighter no, when it's not safe for them to keep fighting. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Aug 15, 2022 20:52:06 GMT -5
2 men finally kissing should be saved for a big show like Wrestlemania
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