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Post by Mecca on Sept 1, 2022 14:18:21 GMT -5
They don't have an ace performer though. Shida Even if she is the greatest in ring wrestler you can imagine, part of being that ace performer is carrying feuds on the mic and that is an issue. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 1, 2022 14:18:51 GMT -5
They don't have an ace performer though. Shida Toni Storm is getting pretty close to an "Ace" as well And if they push her like one, Jamie Hayter will be. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 1, 2022 14:19:51 GMT -5
I generally like Tony, but he's the same guy who also shit on Big Swole's wrestling ability on Twitter. Swole was never a bully to extras like Rosa was besides refusing to put over Toni and seems to have developed the Hardcore Holly "I beat everyone" syndrome., Swoles case was different than Rosa.
From everything I've seen Swole had some very good points that should not be pushed aside.... that being said I think Tony's reaction (which was 100 percent wrong) took away from some points that made Swole sound a bit petty towards some of the talent with less experience then her. And to be clear not saying her comments about the women not bring given time or diversity were or are wrong, but some of the other comments made ya till your head a bit |
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Post by Renslayer on Sept 1, 2022 14:19:56 GMT -5
Tony Khan says Forbidden Door was going to be Punk & FTR vs. Ospreay and Aussie Open. He had to rewire the card heavily due to injuries. Tony Khan says he strongly disagrees with the criticism of Thunder Rosa vs. CM Punk's promo time for their title situation. He says if we're speaking honestly, an 8 minute promo with CM Punk is going to draw more than an 8 minute Thunder Rosa promo, and that's what he books for Ooh that second quote is nasty as hell. Eek |
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Post by sportatorium on Sept 1, 2022 14:20:34 GMT -5
With Thunder Rosa, his idea that he had to choose one 8 minute promo over the other seems pretty shaky. Having her talk for 8 minutes isn't going to be her thing, but giving her a few badass minutes in the ring to say "I'm injured, so all of you make the most of me being gone, because whoever is interim champ is getting murked when I return".
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 1, 2022 14:22:22 GMT -5
With Thunder Rosa, his idea that he had to choose one 8 minute promo over the other seems pretty shaky. Having her talk for 8 minutes isn't going to be her thing, but giving her a few badass minutes in the ring to say "I'm injured, so all of you make the most of me being gone, because whoever is interim champ is getting murked when I return". I think they would have if they didn't learn about the injury so close to showtime. With Punk they had time to map out a Rampage where he got the time he needed. I think giving Rosa what I assume was a pre-tape, was a good idea so emotions didn't run high and the shows overall timing wasn't derailed |
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Post by sportatorium on Sept 1, 2022 14:23:59 GMT -5
With Thunder Rosa, his idea that he had to choose one 8 minute promo over the other seems pretty shaky. Having her talk for 8 minutes isn't going to be her thing, but giving her a few badass minutes in the ring to say "I'm injured, so all of you make the most of me being gone, because whoever is interim champ is getting murked when I return". I think they would have if they didn't learn about the injury so close to showtime. With Punk they had time to map out a Rampage where he got the time he needed. I think giving Rosa what I assume was a pre-tape, was a good idea so emotions didn't run high and the shows overall timing wasn't derailed That's fair & agreeable. I think you stated it better than he did though. |
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Post by Killah Ray on Sept 1, 2022 14:24:20 GMT -5
Yeah honestly with a lot of the shit Rosa has pulled in this title reign I'd be ok if she f***ed off to Dark for the rest of her contract because as much as people shit on Britt, she's not actively trying to downplay the division with shit she is pulling.... Have you not listened to her whenever she opens her yap the past two years? I'm talking from an in ring standpoint...those promos fall on TK since that's the direction he has her going...you don't hear a bad thing about Britt from a backstage perspective... |
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Post by Cyno on Sept 1, 2022 14:27:20 GMT -5
Have you not listened to her whenever she opens her yap the past two years? I'm talking from an in ring standpoint...those promos fall on TK since that's the direction he has her going...you don't hear a bad thing about Britt from a backstage perspective... For all intents and purposes, Britt seems really well liked in the locker room. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 1, 2022 14:28:33 GMT -5
Have you not listened to her whenever she opens her yap the past two years? I'm talking from an in ring standpoint...those promos fall on TK since that's the direction he has her going...you don't hear a bad thing about Britt from a backstage perspective... Thing to remember as well is the Network loves Britt to the point she is one of thr wrestlers they were pitching giving a show to (others being Darby who they've allegedly filmed for, and Jungle Boy). |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 1, 2022 14:30:10 GMT -5
I think they would have if they didn't learn about the injury so close to showtime. With Punk they had time to map out a Rampage where he got the time he needed. I think giving Rosa what I assume was a pre-tape, was a good idea so emotions didn't run high and the shows overall timing wasn't derailed That's fair & agreeable. I think you stated it better than he did though. He should hire me for PR at this point yes lol |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 1, 2022 14:33:00 GMT -5
Now also let's be clear, Tony absolutely needs someone for PR cause while he can come off likable he has a history of getting sparky and arguing as well (in all of his ventures) so while I do believe Tony has best intentions in mind sometimes he just has to accept that no matter what happens you'll never be loved bu everybody
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Post by markymark on Sept 1, 2022 14:34:20 GMT -5
Swole was never a bully to extras like Rosa was besides refusing to put over Toni and seems to have developed the Hardcore Holly "I beat everyone" syndrome., Swoles case was different than Rosa.
From everything I've seen Swole had some very good points that should not be pushed aside.... that being said I think Tony's reaction (which was 100 percent wrong) took away from some points that made Swole sound a bit petty towards some of the talent with less experience then her. And to be clear not saying her comments about the women not bring given time or diversity were or are wrong, but some of the other comments made ya till your head a bit
True, Swoles take about lack of structure was on point that TK at least seems to have bothered fixing it by promoting like 5 people to help in the area.
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Post by markymark on Sept 1, 2022 14:35:31 GMT -5
Now also let's be clear, Tony absolutely needs someone for PR cause while he can come off likable he has a history of getting sparky and arguing as well (in all of his ventures) so while I do believe Tony has best intentions in mind sometimes he just has to accept that no matter what happens you'll never be loved bu everybody
I feel he doesnt want to do it because no one cares what twitter says or the backstage stuff(like Caster rap about it and the no reaction from the crowd last week kinda proved it)
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 1, 2022 14:37:39 GMT -5
From everything I've seen Swole had some very good points that should not be pushed aside.... that being said I think Tony's reaction (which was 100 percent wrong) took away from some points that made Swole sound a bit petty towards some of the talent with less experience then her. And to be clear not saying her comments about the women not bring given time or diversity were or are wrong, but some of the other comments made ya till your head a bit True, Swoles take about lack of structure was on point that TK at least seems to have bothered fixing it by promoting like 5 people to help in the area.
I honestly think her points about structure and creative were more venomous than her take on the women division or diversity. Swole made it very clear that if you came to Tony or Kenny or the Bucks with an idea they'd listen and be receptive, but she's not comfortable doing that so she'd clam up when they'd ask her what she wanted to do. And not everybody is creative. So at some point you also have to come up with ideas for people who aren't as featured. Now on that point I have noticed that Dark is starting to become more of a place to try things so that could help |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 1, 2022 14:38:42 GMT -5
Now also let's be clear, Tony absolutely needs someone for PR cause while he can come off likable he has a history of getting sparky and arguing as well (in all of his ventures) so while I do believe Tony has best intentions in mind sometimes he just has to accept that no matter what happens you'll never be loved bu everybody Yeah, this is one of those instances where he isn't really wrong in what he said, but saying it differently would have made a world of difference, because like almost no one I think is going to argue that an 8 minute Rosa promo is a bad idea. There aren't a ton of people I think you can trust with that amount of promo time to keep an audience hooked period He definitely didn't mean or want for it to come off like he thinks Rosa or the women are less successful or less of a deal, but this is why you want to make sure you screen your replies instead of reacting on instant emotional reflex. |
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Post by Mecca on Sept 1, 2022 14:39:38 GMT -5
True, Swoles take about lack of structure was on point that TK at least seems to have bothered fixing it by promoting like 5 people to help in the area.
I honestly think her points about structure and creative were more venomous than her take on the women division or diversity. Swole made it very clear that if you came to Tony or Kenny or the Bucks with an idea they'd listen and be receptive, but she's not comfortable doing that so she'd clam up when they'd ask her what she wanted to do. And not everybody is creative. So at some point you also have to come up with ideas for people who aren't as featured. Now on that point I have noticed that Dark is starting to become more of a place to try things so that could help Man she shoulda played TEW for awhile, shed have ideas then. |
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Post by Kalmia on Sept 1, 2022 14:42:06 GMT -5
AEW has a lot of women that are either still quite early in their wrestling careers or haven't really been in a national, TV promotion before. I wonder how many of them have had the chance or reason to work on their promo skills. It doesn't come naturally to everyone but that doesn't mean you can't get better. If promos are a problem for many of the women (and I agree that they are), get some classes and practice going. It's not like you need a ring to practice a promo.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 1, 2022 14:45:30 GMT -5
AEW has a lot of women that are either still quite early in their wrestling careers or haven't really been in a national, TV promotion before. I wonder how many of them have had the chance or reason to work on their promo skills. It doesn't come naturally to everyone but that doesn't mean you can't get better. If promos are a problem for many of the women (and I agree that they are), get some classes and practice going. It's not like you need a ring to practice a promo. Not many. Its one of the things the agents have been told to stress with younger talent now |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 1, 2022 14:49:28 GMT -5
AEW has a lot of women that are either still quite early in their wrestling careers or haven't really been in a national, TV promotion before. I wonder how many of them have had the chance or reason to work on their promo skills. It doesn't come naturally to everyone but that doesn't mean you can't get better. If promos are a problem for many of the women (and I agree that they are), get some classes and practice going. It's not like you need a ring to practice a promo. One of the ones I actually saw improving with it was Statlander, won a live crowd over with her fire over Ruby, had a really good rapport with Athena A pretty big improvement from the Leyla Hirsch feud promos tbh. The unfortunate thing is she got hurt. Abadon's still very young into her career, but she's someone they I hope use in the future because she doesn't need to say a word, it's all presence. |
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