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Post by asuka007 on Jan 18, 2023 23:01:01 GMT -5
I hope they let Toni have actually valid motives. Like HER turn feels a lot more rushed than Saraya
I feel like Toni should be the “heel with a point.” Like she came in and did everything right. And Britt and co have screwed her over and beat her up over and over and over again. Including Britt cheating to beat her in the Owen and to cost her the title.
And yet she is still treated as an “outsider” and fans cheer the women who have screwed her over constantly.
I just feel like Toni has a naturally sympathetic POV in this and I hope they let her lean into that.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 18, 2023 23:18:43 GMT -5
So they've got to bring Athena in on this, right? Because it's basically what she was already doing.
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Post by markymark on Jan 18, 2023 23:19:38 GMT -5
"Saraya is the only person who has respected me for what Ive done in this division, for this reason I will have her back", that counts as a valid motive imo.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 18, 2023 23:21:20 GMT -5
The fans also wildly cheered Jamie against Toni as she repeatedly got screwed in their Full Gear match. I could see how that could lead to some resentment.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 18, 2023 23:25:05 GMT -5
So Britt, Jamie, Shida, Willow vs. Saraya, Toni, Ruby, Athena?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 18, 2023 23:36:24 GMT -5
So Britt, Jamie, Shida, Willow vs. Saraya, Toni, Ruby, Athena? I don't see Ruby turning, too over as a face She should be the one outlier who sees AEW as her home more than another place My fourth would be Serena Deeb for the Invaders, you could also go Mercedes Martinez.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 18, 2023 23:38:56 GMT -5
Fed merchants versus the AEW originals. That's the obvious feud.
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Post by asuka007 on Jan 18, 2023 23:40:20 GMT -5
Ruby turning after she spent months as the totally sympathetic face against TayJay and looked like the biggest bad ass in that street fight.
That would just be dumb.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 18, 2023 23:43:05 GMT -5
Ruby turning after she spent months as the totally sympathetic face against TayJay and looked like the biggest bad ass in that street fight. That would just be dumb. Which is why it seemed pretty obvious she isn't turning in the segment and helped Willow out You have Athena, you have Deeb, you have Mercedes, hell you have Shafir, there are other options they have within the company if they aren't gonna be getting Sasha to have as invaders
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Post by FinalGwen on Jan 18, 2023 23:45:48 GMT -5
Toni could easily work in 'I didn't ever get to celebrate being the undisputed women's champion, only given it in retrospect'.
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Post by markymark on Jan 18, 2023 23:50:08 GMT -5
So Britt, Jamie, Shida, Willow vs. Saraya, Toni, Ruby, Athena? I don't see Ruby turning, too over as a face She should be the one outlier who sees AEW as her home more than another place My fourth would be Serena Deeb for the Invaders, you could also go Mercedes Martinez.
Serena hasnt wrestled since October of last year(apparently she is injured), Mercedes has been MIA since Final Battle but she makes sense to be in the Invaders group(she is a better heel than a face).
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 18, 2023 23:52:09 GMT -5
Makes sense for Saraya to turn heel. The AEW crowds could smell the phony off of her and they turned on her almost immediately.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 18, 2023 23:53:07 GMT -5
I don't see Ruby turning, too over as a face She should be the one outlier who sees AEW as her home more than another place My fourth would be Serena Deeb for the Invaders, you could also go Mercedes Martinez.
Serena hasnt wrestled since October of last year(apparently she is injured), Mercedes has been MIA since Final Battle but she makes sense to be in the Invaders group(she is a better heel than a face).
I hate how often Serena gets hurt, because she's one of the best wrestlers on the planet when she's healthy, hopefully if she's been out since October she'll be on the mend soon.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 18, 2023 23:54:16 GMT -5
Makes sense for Saraya to turn heel. The AEW crowds could smell the phony off of her and they turned on her almost immediately. It was the promos against Baker that did her in, she felt like more of a heel than Britt Baker, BRITT BAKER, did in her segments It was the right call, if Baker turns face idk how many peeps here will vibe with it, but they and the crowds have been cheering Hayter for ages so it'll be a win there. And then if/when Britt turns on Jamie later on? It hurts more.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 18, 2023 23:54:45 GMT -5
I think Ruby will be recruited but ultimately stay face. She does have reason to turn. As we've all talked about, she has come up short so many times and often against AEW originals like Britt and Jade. But I think keeping her face in spite of that rationale will make her an even stronger character for the audience.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 18, 2023 23:55:24 GMT -5
Makes sense for Saraya to turn heel. The AEW crowds could smell the phony off of her and they turned on her almost immediately. It was the promos against Baker that did her in, she felt like more of a heel than Britt Baker, BRITT BAKER, did in her segments It was the right call, if Baker turns face idk how many peeps here will vibe with it, but they and the crowds have been cheering Hayter for ages so it'll be a win there. And then if/when Britt turns on Jamie later on? It hurts more. I'd say take this feud to Revolution and then Britt/Jamie can happen at Double or Nothing.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 19, 2023 0:01:17 GMT -5
Dr. Baker has somehow Sideshow Bob raked her way into becoming an over babyface all over again without even changing up the heel schtick that got people sick of her in the first place.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 19, 2023 0:03:06 GMT -5
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 19, 2023 0:03:27 GMT -5
Dr. Baker has somehow Sideshow Bob raked her way into becoming an over babyface all over again without even changing up the heel schtick that got people sick of her in the first place. Helps that now she actually has a character, her first face run she was just not there yet, it was too dull. Sometimes in a weird roundabout way wrestlers need a heel run to just get over for another attempted face run, usually it works, unless you're The Miz, who never works as a face ever no matter how hard he tries...
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Post by Fade on Jan 19, 2023 1:43:11 GMT -5
So Britt, Jamie, Shida, Willow vs. Saraya, Toni, Ruby, Athena? I don't see Ruby turning, too over as a face She should be the one outlier who sees AEW as her home more than another place My fourth would be Serena Deeb for the Invaders, you could also go Mercedes Martinez. It should be Renee
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