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Post by stevescorpio on Jan 19, 2023 5:08:25 GMT -5
Thank goodness they did it. Saraya really is not a good face. She's much better as a heel. I'm excited for where they take this story even if I'm reluctant to cheer for Britt.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 19, 2023 5:23:10 GMT -5
It does kind of feel like a pretty damning indictment of Saraya that she's two matches into her miraculous comeback run and they've already had to turn her heel due to the crowd getting fed up with her.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 19, 2023 5:57:55 GMT -5
I don't know why, but the thought of Saraya as heel again got me thinking of her doing obnoxious updates about herself on Dynamite ala Randy Orton's RNN in 2002; if only because she could start each one with: "Saraya here."
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jan 19, 2023 6:20:21 GMT -5
The easiest explanation for Toni is the good old "You people chose Jamie and Britt over me, the one who was carrying the division since Thunder Rosa got injured and this is the reception I deserve? Screw you". For once, the "you people" actually works. I really hope it's the direction they go in with her.
I'm not massively into an Originals v Newcomers feud as it would have to be a mix of heels and faces. But they could certainly do Toni/Saraya v Britt/Jamie but with the alignments switched and then Britt turns on Jamie (maybe even costs her the title?) once that feud has finished.
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Post by markymark on Jan 19, 2023 7:09:36 GMT -5
I think Ruby will be recruited but ultimately stay face. She does have reason to turn. As we've all talked about, she has come up short so many times and often against AEW originals like Britt and Jade. But I think keeping her face in spite of that rationale will make her an even stronger character for the audience.
Should let Ruby mention that at one point she was on Saraya/Toni shoes(when she got booed out of the building vs Kris during the Owen semifinals due to Kris being an original)
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Post by Kalmia on Jan 19, 2023 7:18:41 GMT -5
Saraya could have been a great babyface if she'd concentrated her promos on coming back from injury, how hard she worked to get cleared, and how she wanted to prove herself in AEW. As soon as she started pulling the "MY HOUSE!!" bit and started acting like she ran the women's division despite never wrestling in it, the crowd was always going to turn on her. I don't know how anyone thought that would get her over, especially against Britt Baker who (love her or hate her) has been the top homegrown star.
I'm glad Saraya is willing to lean into the heel reactions and go with it though, instead of trying to fight against it.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 19, 2023 8:17:53 GMT -5
What if it ends up being Britt, Jaime, and Ruby vs Saraya, Toni, and MONE?
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Post by dynamitekidd on Jan 19, 2023 8:52:05 GMT -5
I’m good with Saraya as a heel she makes it work just fine. Wasn’t super pumped about Toni going heel but feel like this little angle does have potential.
Britt has carried the top heel title for so long, I can stand some new twists and turns.
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Post by dynamitekidd on Jan 19, 2023 8:53:03 GMT -5
What if it ends up being Britt, Jaime, and Ruby vs Saraya, Toni, and MONE? It would match up with the new talent vs homegrown talent wouldn’t it.
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Post by asuka007 on Jan 19, 2023 9:18:03 GMT -5
Saraya could have been a great babyface if she'd concentrated her promos on coming back from injury, how hard she worked to get cleared, and how she wanted to prove herself in AEW. As soon as she started pulling the "MY HOUSE!!" bit and started acting like she ran the women's division despite never wrestling in it, the crowd was always going to turn on her. I don't know how anyone thought that would get her over, especially against Britt Baker who (love her or hate her) has been the top homegrown star. I'm glad Saraya is willing to lean into the heel reactions and go with it though, instead of trying to fight against it. Yeah I’m not super invested in the “Originals vs. Outsiders” thing either. If that’s all this is, I don’t find that interesting. Has to be more to it than just that imo.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 19, 2023 10:33:46 GMT -5
What if it ends up being Britt, Jaime, and Ruby vs Saraya, Toni, and MONE? It would seem kinda weird to leave Shida out of it, though.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 19, 2023 10:40:58 GMT -5
What if it ends up being Britt, Jaime, and Ruby vs Saraya, Toni, and MONE? It would seem kinda weird to leave Shida out of it, though. Would Shida be able to trust Britt and Jaime?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2023 10:45:16 GMT -5
She works better as a heel but this felt too rushed.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Jan 19, 2023 11:07:12 GMT -5
Saraya must be stopped before she corrupts Toni any more.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 19, 2023 11:12:30 GMT -5
I do wonder if Saraya and AEW really thought she was supposed to be a babyface with the whole "THIS IS MY HOUSE!' schtick when she never even laid a brick in it?
It reminds me so much of KENTA when he first came to New Japan. They expected him to be his old cocky NOAH babyface self when domestic NJPW fans didn't find that appealing.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jan 19, 2023 11:23:52 GMT -5
I do wonder if Saraya and AEW really thought she was supposed to be a babyface with the whole "THIS IS MY HOUSE!' schtick when she never even laid a brick in it? The return pop may have gone to everyone's heads for a bit there. I was utterly taken aback by it and have to imagine I wasn't the only one - and in retrospect it's easy to wonder if it was just due to sheer surprise, or joy that she was back from the brink instead of particular interest in seeing her as an ongoing talent.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jan 19, 2023 11:45:41 GMT -5
Saraya has always had an arrogant/unlikeable quality to her even when she's a face. Charlotte and Sasha are the same. Even when they turn face they don't change much and end up coming across heelish so face runs tend to not last very long because they're just natural heels.
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Post by Germansuplex on Jan 19, 2023 11:57:08 GMT -5
Saraya is, to me, one of the most unlikeable characters in wrestling. So I'm glad she turned.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2023 12:09:32 GMT -5
She works better as a heel but this felt too rushed. Yeah, it felt sudden and reaction to what happened last week. Not complaining because she makes for a better heel, but could have been done much better.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Jan 19, 2023 12:15:51 GMT -5
It does kind of feel like a pretty damning indictment of Saraya that she's two matches into her miraculous comeback run and they've already had to turn her heel due to the crowd getting fed up with her. THEY'RE COMING TO CANCEL HER
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